Paid Sacraments?

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hello there guys. its me again. A Catholic with a friend CoC. my friend once again question me about our priests. he tells me that, “How come that your sacraments like baptism and marriage has payments?” he said that it is clearly stated in the bible that sacraments should be free. how can i response to this?🙂
 
They don’t. Sacraments are free. Sometimes, especially for things like weddings, where significant expenses such as heating, electricity, extra cleaning, organist, wedding coordinators, etc., may be incurred by use of the church building, then the parish will ask the couple to pay for these additional expenses, especially if the couple or their families are not actively participating parishioners.
 
hello there guys. its me again. A Catholic with a friend CoC. my friend once again question me about our priests. he tells me that, “How come that your sacraments like baptism and marriage has payments?” he said that it is clearly stated in the bible that sacraments should be free. how can i response to this?🙂
Not a surprising question/misunderstanding from a CoCer. Ask him why his minister is not a tentmaker like Paul.
 
Not a surprising question/misunderstanding from a CoCer. Ask him why his minister is not a tentmaker like Paul.
He may be - many of these little churches cannot support their pastors on donations.

I’d be very curious to know where the friend believes Scripture prohibits accepting payment for sacraments, since it implies an acceptance of the Scriptural basis of the sacraments.

However, Paul was quite explicit in saying that while he chose to support himself and not accept gifts from those he served, he would have been entitled to accept payment just as the other apostles were. (1 Cor 9)

Do ask him for chapter and verse . . .:confused:
 
He may be - many of these little churches cannot support their pastors on donations.

I’d be very curious to know where the friend believes Scripture prohibits accepting payment for sacraments, since it implies an acceptance of the Scriptural basis of the sacraments.

However, Paul was quite explicit in saying that while he chose to support himself and not accept gifts from those he served, he would have been entitled to accept payment just as the other apostles were. (1 Cor 9)

Do ask him for chapter and verse . . .:confused:
I imagine he’s equating this with Simony, but certainly, the worker is worth his wages.
 
Ask him where the Levites got their groceries. Many of the sacrifices at the tabernacle and temple went to the Levites for dinner. Since our sacrifice is bloodless, a twenty in the collection plate helps make up the difference
 
hello there guys. its me again. A Catholic with a friend CoC. my friend once again question me about our priests. he tells me that, “How come that your sacraments like baptism and marriage has payments?” he said that it is clearly stated in the bible that sacraments should be free. how can i response to this?🙂
Baptisms and weddings are free. It is when a couple seeks a SPECIAL CEREMONY for their baptism or wedding that the cost is incurred due to the secular resources consumed for heating the church, lighting, etc for an event outside the normal structure of mass.

If a couple cannot afford a special marraige ceremony, they are generally welcome to celebrate their marraige mass as part of the normal mass schedule. Having your own personal ceremony for baptism or marraige is a privilage, not a right.
 
Sometimes, especially for things like weddings, where significant expenses such as heating, electricity, extra cleaning, organist, wedding coordinators, etc
so, where does the money offerings go? doesn’t the offerings suppose to cover up all does expenses?
 
so, where does the money offerings go? doesn’t the offerings suppose to cover up all does expenses?
Regular Sunday collections are intended to support the costs of operating the parish and its regular ministries. There is generally no collection taken up at nuptial masses to cover additional expenses incurred at typical wedding masses these days, which often require additional decorating, cleaning, staff, etc. so couples or families are asked to help pay for these.

It doesn’t make sense that a couple or family who is willing to spend thousands of dollars on dresses, flowers, caterers, reception halls, bands and honeymoons, would not to want to offer a fair stipend to the church to cover the extra bills that the church will have to pay because of the wedding.
 
so, where does the money offerings go? doesn’t the offerings suppose to cover up all does expenses?
Sweetie - the money offerings often don’t even cover the expenses for the regular Sunday services that the whole community/parish attends, let alone the costs of keeping the church open specialy for weddings, baptisms etc that happen outside of those times.

If a couple genuinely can’t afford a stipend for the priest to marry them, they’re not obliged to give one. But as said it’s most unfair that the couple will spend lots of money on clothes, reception etc and not offer something to the priest for the expenses.
 
Just a few months ago, I was asked to be a Godmother for a 7 year old boy. The mother asked me if I knew how much to give to the church. I had no idea. My own child is 13, so it was a long time ago.

So she called the church. The secretary told her that it doesn’t cost anything to have your child baptized, even if it is after Mass in the Chapel. If the Mother wanted to offer a stipend, she was welcome to do so but there was no set amount.

I ended up talking to a few of the new moms to find out a ball park figure. It was a waste of time. I got answers from nothing to what I thought was a pretty large stipend. It was truly a personal thing.

But it all came back to, it doesn’t cost anything to receive a sacrament. 👍
 
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