Surely you don’t mean that Christ was referring to the book complied by the Catholic Church about 300 years after his resurrection or those New Testament Gospels that were written decades after his death.
Well, it seems to me that in order to make a Bible alone argument you must rely quite heavily on the judgement and authority of the Catholic Church. The Church who debated and ultimately decided what to include in the Bible. Those decisions being guided by a recognition that certain gospels, letters, epistles, Hebrew texts, etc. where a divinely inspired part of the Catholic Tradition. You really can’t divorce the Bible from Catholic history, tradition, and authority without calling into question the reliability of the Bible itself.
And as someone “raised Methodist,” I can say for certain you are wrong. You have not read anything by Justin Martyr have you?Exactly. Something made up to look holy, but so wrong.
Boy, you are just adding things in all willy nilly! Where did “on God’s word” come from? You aren’t as Bible alone as you think you are.
I didn’t mean to imply YOU disappeared medwigel.
Great.
Who is we, according to the scripture? Mt 18:1. His Disciples. The 11 (if you don’t count Judas). So, taken in context, what is actually happening here is that Christ is extending his authority to the 11 after extending it first to Peter in Mt 16:9. Christ is talking to the 11 about how to handle the affairs of the Church established in Mt 16:9. The Church set up under Peter.
Who does Jesus instruct to go and make disciples of all men? Mt 28:16. The 11 disciples. Although you are trying to use this verse to mean that everyone is a disciple, Jesus is actually setting up his Church structure here. The 11 will go out and establish churches, ordain bishops and priests and guide the faithful. And, as history (and the letters and epistles of the New Testament show) that is precisely what they did.