Palestinian-Israeli Conflict

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Neil_Anthony said:
Now they’re asking the world for money to rebuild their schools and hospitals :rolleyes: So they can turn them into terrorist bases again I presume and have them blown up again. Sorry, they won’t be getting any donations from me.
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As a nation we have voted in a group of people that is more worried about getting their next kiss and hug onto a thug as quickly as possible. I am afraid they will take it from your taxes and this bunch is the group that will raise your taxes and blame it on someone else - just like they did the economic problems.

Anyway, enough of politics. Do ya really want to get really perturbed?!?!

Read these:

hamas paid salaries at Shifa hospital It seems that the hospitals, schools, and mosques are hamas strongholds - and if one gets blown up by the Israelis - you better believe all the world will wail and whine. Of course, not hold them accountable for their behavior! Well, you know their agenda… 🤷 (not one muslim rioting over these facts either!)

hamas gunmen hiding in hospitals

Here is one in Iraq - the ‘no compulsion in religion’ doesn’t seem to apply unless muslims are trying to tell us how ‘peaceful’ islam is. 🤷

“Invading militias distributed a letter to Christians, giving them one of four options: Pay money to Muslims, convert to Islam, leave their homes or be killed”

It is what I write time and again - the only options muslims know for peace with non-muslims is: death, conversion or subjugation. And the reason why they are after israel are for one of those 3 reasons - not for land, not for anything else other than they are told to hate and to kill 'em, convert 'em, or subjugate 'em.
 
More from the news of the ‘peaceful’ ones.🤷

UN’s role in Gaza
In one classroom Saturday, when UNRWA schools reopened, a Palestinian teacher was filmed asking children about their trauma during the war. The unidentified teacher then told the children that Palestinians have to “wage war against them (Israelis) until they leave their land,” and asked her students, aged about 8, how they should react.
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Two children in the class suggested hurling stones or rockets back at Israel. “Okay,” the teacher said, apparently summing up her class’ position. “We throw rockets at them, we throw stones at them,” she said.
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Ging said such behavior is “completely unacceptable,” and will be “dealt with in the most severest of fashions.” He said the teacher would likely be removed once identified. Teachers have been fired from UNRWA in the past for incitement.
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It seems my initial posts on this (maybe not on this thread) were more correct than not - the Palestinians are not innocent in this latest muslim aggression against Israel.

(I’ll post this again for anyone who wonders why I say that:
Walid Shoebat Shoebat’s experiences with what he was taught in islam..
Select the program that says, Talking It Over, PART 1 December 13, 2008.)
 
Same reason why the Crusaders were so obsessed with the same area. It’s the Holy City. Gosh! How could I miss that. Slaps Forehead
 
In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Salaam/peace
Neil_Anthony said:
… Sorry, they won’t be getting any donations from me.
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No problem . Help those who love to kill hundreds kids in the name of self defense. You will have to be accountable for your supporting them on the Judgment Day & Remember , God is Just.
 
And you won’t either. I have never seen her even acknowledge all the evil that Hamas and others have done. It’s always somebody elses fault. She never admits any fault with fellow Muslims.
 
In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Salaam/peace

Black Flag

By Uri Avnery

A Spanish judge has instituted a judicial inquiry against seven Israeli political and military personalities on suspicion of war crimes and crimes against humanity.

…Israeli TV viewers have lately been exposed to a bizarre sight: army officers appearing with their faces hidden, as usual for criminals when the court prohibits their identification. Pedophiles, for example, or attackers of old women.

…I do not object to trials abroad. The main thing is that war criminals, like pirates, should be brought to justice. It is not so important where they are caught. (This rule was applied by the state of Israel when it abducted Adolf Eichmann in Argentina and hanged him in Israel for heinous crimes committed outside the territory of Israel and, indeed, before the state even existed.)

But as an Israeli patriot, I would prefer suspected Israeli war criminals to be put on trial in Israel

…The rabbis openly called upon the soldiers to be cruel and merciless toward the Arabs. To treat them mercifully, they stated, is a “terrible, awful immorality.” When such material is distributed to religious soldiers going into war, it is easy to see why things happened the way they did.

informationclearinghouse.info/article21883.htm
 
Pssst. Hamas broke the ceasefire yesterday by firing rockets again. Just for the record.
 
Rleng616 said:
Sister Amy
Thank you for this link - kinghussein.gov.jo/kabd_eng.html
It is as true today as it was in 1947 when the King spoke in the United States.
As a Roman Catholic, I could never understand this injustice.

Bob
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I didn’t go further than the first paragraph. It is not true, Jews have been persecuted under Islam for 1400 years, subject to pograms and living in servitude and humiliation as dhimmis. A dhimmi’s life is very fragile, they never know when they will be slaughtered, enslaved, assaulted etc. They are restricted in practicing their religion, they must pay an extra tax and know they are humiliated as they do so.

It might be a good idea to further your research on Islam. Much is now being written and dhimmis, Jews, Christians, Hindus and other non-muslim, if they were allowed to live, were living perilous lives under islam.

It is the same for Christians today living in islamic countries; most Jews have left - forcefully I might add. When the arab countries attacked the newly formed Israel in 1948, they were forced from their homes, businesses, without compensation, and kicked out of where they and their families had lived with centuries.

Fact is, it was western imperialism that at least improved the lot of dhimmi’s to some degree.

I, as a Roman Catholic, cannot understand how people can form opinions based on propaganda and not investigate for themselves. After all, Roman Catholics have been subject to lies and anti-Catholic propaganda for centuries - we know all about blood libels.
 
chrisse said:
I didn’t go further than the first paragraph. It is not true, Jews have been persecuted under Islam for 1400 years, subject to pograms and living in servitude and humiliation as dhimmis. A dhimmi’s life is very fragile, they never know when they will be slaughtered, enslaved, assaulted etc. They are restricted in practicing their religion, they must pay an extra tax and know they are humiliated as they do so.

It might be a good idea to further your research on Islam. Much is now being written and dhimmis, Jews, Christians, Hindus and other non-muslim, if they were allowed to live, were living perilous lives under islam.

It is the same for Christians today living in islamic countries; most Jews have left - forcefully I might add. When the arab countries attacked the newly formed Israel in 1948, they were forced from their homes, businesses, without compensation, and kicked out of where they and their families had lived with centuries.

Fact is, it was western imperialism that at least improved the lot of dhimmi’s to some degree.

I, as a Roman Catholic, cannot understand how people can form opinions based on propaganda and not investigate for themselves. After all, Roman Catholics have been subject to lies and anti-Catholic propaganda for centuries - we know all about blood libels.
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Chrisse - You said “I, as a Roman Catholic, cannot understand how people can form opinions based on propaganda and not investigate for themselves” Then why didn’t you read the rest of the article?

The dhimmis had a lot better life under Islam than the Palestinians now have under the jews. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi#Development_of_the_dhimma_in_the_early_Islamic_
period.

The Jews have the Palestinians living in concentration camp conditions with their fences, wire and blockade. The arrogance of the jews has reached a new level with their slaughter of several hundred children in their last savage attack. What lame excuse did the jews have; OH, there must have been sniper or rocket fire near or the hose - OH PLEASE.

Bob
 
It’s simple really, When all the suicide bombings were going on and killing men women and children and almost all were civilians, Israel put up the barriers to protect themselves. It worked too. They did to protect themselves.
 
Rleng616 said:
Chrisse - You said “I, as a Roman Catholic, cannot understand how people can form opinions based on propaganda and not investigate for themselves” Then why didn’t you read the rest of the article?

The dhimmis had a lot better life under Islam than the Palestinians now have under the jews. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi#Development_of_the_dhimma_in_the_early_Islamic_
period.

The Jews have the Palestinians living in concentration camp conditions with their fences, wire and blockade. The arrogance of the jews has reached a new level with their slaughter of several hundred children in their last savage attack. What lame excuse did the jews have; OH, there must have been sniper or rocket fire near or the hose - OH PLEASE.

Bob
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Everything you have just written is based on propaganda, Bob. It simply is not true.

But I do detect the hatred and bigotry in your words, you are literally seething there. Please do not reply, ignorance I can tolerate, bigotry and hatred I can not.
 
** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **

Salaam/ Peace
ricko said:
… When all the suicide bombings were going on and killing men women and children …
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Jewish British Lawmaker Likens Israel to Nazis

… claim that many of the Palestinian victims were militants “was the reply of the Nazi” and added: “I suppose the Jews fighting for their lives in the Warsaw ghetto could have been dismissed as militants.”

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informationclearinghouse…ticle21781.htm
 
Muslim_Woman said:
** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **

Salaam/ Peace

Jewish British Lawmaker Likens Israel to Nazis

… claim that many of the Palestinian victims were militants “was the reply of the Nazi” and added: “I suppose the Jews fighting for their lives in the Warsaw ghetto could have been dismissed as militants.”

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informationclearinghouse…ticle21781.htm
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Jewish poster on forum likens Hamas to murdering thugs.
www.valke2.com
 
chrisse said:
But I do detect the hatred and bigotry in your words, you are literally seething there. Please do not reply, ignorance I can tolerate, bigotry and hatred I can not.
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Chrisse - Thank you for your post.
You are right about the propaganda, and I do get carried away some time with my verbiage. .
I can NEVER defend the atrocities of many Muslims. They find a way of justifying the killing of innocents in the most brutal way.
However, I do think the Palestinians got their land stolen and that Israel over reacted when they killed 1300 or so Palestinians.
Peace
Bob
 
Rleng616 said:
Chrisse - Thank you for your post.
You are right about the propaganda, and I do get carried away some time with my verbiage. .
I can NEVER defend the atrocities of many Muslims. They find a way of justifying the killing of innocents in the most brutal way.
However, I do think the Palestinians got their land stolen and that Israel over reacted when they killed 1300 or so Palestinians.
Peace
Bob
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Ishmael and Isaac are brothers. They have the same father, Abraham, but different mothers. This still makes them brothers.
Ishmael’s son’s are the Jewish people who are to inherit Israel and Isaac’s sons are of Muslim decent and they are known as the “people of the east” and the Lord also blessed them. The Lord also used Caan and Abel to tell us not to hurt our brothers and to love our brothers. So, that being said, how can the Jews feel justified and that they say the Lord wants them to kill the Muslims? Jews and anyone else that are killing Muslims are not obeying Scripture.
 
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