Palin Takes Obama to Task for Stance on Abortion

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Stormcloud stated himself/herself that it didn’t matter what President Bush did, the only thing important to him/her are end results. Of course, Christian philosophy says the exact opposite, but never us mind silly matters such as that.
 
I suppose that when the current administration’s budget is passed then the trillions of dollars more they plan on spending will do wonders for all of those social injustices.

All except for theft through taxes…I mean distribution of wealth.

I certainly they put lots more money towards the cure of sloth…I mean welfare.

I keep mis-speaking.

Eddie Mac
Wow! You’re being sorely misguided by the right wing propaganda machine. I dare you to educate yourself by combining news and analysis from sources who tell you what you want to hear with sources that don’t, and enlighten yourself through daily conversations with Christ instead of trusting to the warped “truth” offered by pundits who’s only discipleship is to a political party.
 
You do not have the gift of foresight so you will not know definitely that they would or would not do something about it.

Here is what you would know.

2 Parties.

One disagrees with killing the all the Jews and says its not their job to stop it.

The other disagrees with the extermination of Jews and says they will make sure it is stopped.

Who do you vote for. Are you going to assume now that the 2nd party will break their promise and do nothing because of other parties who have done nothing before or take your chance on something that has a better possibility of happening than voting for the other guy who wants to slaughter the Jews? If you are countering your arguments on mere possibilities of different leaders breaking their promises then you may as well just give up voting all together.
The second party has proven their lack of will to act on the issue in a meaningful way.
 
Obviously I didn’t get the idea from the lying right wing propaganda machine.
Interesting.

I’d like to point out that, even if you’re right about this so-called “right wing propaganda machine”, it pales in comparison to that of the left wing:

RIGHT WING PROPAGANDA MACHINE:
  • Fox News
  • Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, et. al.
  • Coulter (I’ll grant you this, even though I think the majority of conservatives think she’s a loon)
  • Conservative talk radio in general
LEFT WING PROPAGANDA MACHINE
  • CNN
  • CNBC
  • MSNBC
  • NBC
  • ABC
  • CBS
  • PBS
  • NPR
  • Practically every newspaper in the country, led by the New York Times
  • A good chunk of popular magazines, such as Time
  • A vibrant blogging community
  • The Daily Show
  • Almost all of Hollywood, led by such people as Oprah Winfrey, Sean Penn, and the lovely Jenneane Garofalo
The left’s machine could eat that of the right for breakfast.

Peace,
Dante
 
Wow! You’re being sorely misguided by the right wing propaganda machine. I dare you to educate yourself by combining news and analysis from sources who tell you what you want to hear with sources that don’t, and enlighten yourself through daily conversations with Christ instead of trusting to the warped “truth” offered by pundits who’s only discipleship is to a political party.
LOL!

Wow.

You really need to take some of your own advice, especially since you preach about how much good the dems have done.

Also, since you are insisting that I enlighten myself with Christ every day, maybe while you are doing the same thing you should bring along a copy of the democrat party platform and talk to Him about abortion, same sex marriage, and all the rest. I am certain He would like to discuss that with you.

I did not state a party afiliation, nor did I state where I receive my information. My television is rarely on and when it is it is usually on EWTN.

I do not watch FOX.

Eddie Mac
 
I’ll give you these:
  • MSNBC
  • PBS
  • NPR
CNBC??? Really??? You haven’t watched it have you? It’s a financial network geared toward investors.
Newspapers over all are split, they follow the leaning of the readers in their town/city.
Magazines are evenly spit.
Blogs are evenly split.
Hollywood has as many outspoken conservatives as it has outspoken liberals.

Christ’s peace be with you.
 
Eddie,

You haven’t stated a party affiliation, directly, but you’ve made it clear.
As for comparing platforms, if you think the GOP is any better than the DNC, then you need to try drinking something besides kool-aid.

The platform of the dems has it wrong on abortion, but the platform of the reps is an empty promise; mere lip service.
 
Stormcloud stated himself/herself that it didn’t matter what President Bush did, the only thing important to him/her are end results. Of course, Christian philosophy says the exact opposite, but never us mind silly matters such as that.
Nice mischaracterization. Abortion is a cancer to our society, instead of attempting to treat it with radiation and chemo, Bush merely gave us some chicken soup and vitamin C (nothing that will cure it, but hey, it can’t hurt and we can say we did something good).
 
Uh huh, such as increasing our taxes so we can all support people that really , really have an aversion to work. Or perhaps like is being done now, tearing apart the Constitution. Or providing universal health care as long as the provision for abortion on demand is included.

Name a few other “SOCIAL JUSTICE” issues the Dem platform provides. Oh yes, mandatory sex education in public schools from kindergarten up.
If you make 250k per year I don’t feel bad that you may have to pay more in taxes!

What is the social justice platform of the Republicans?
 
LOL!

Wow.

You really need to take some of your own advice, especially since you preach about how much good the dems have done.

Also, since you are insisting that I enlighten myself with Christ every day, maybe while you are doing the same thing you should bring along a copy of the democrat party platform and talk to Him about abortion, same sex marriage, and all the rest. I am certain He would like to discuss that with you.

I did not state a party afiliation, nor did I state where I receive my information. My television is rarely on and when it is it is usually on EWTN.

I do not watch FOX.

Eddie Mac
What did Jesus say about same sex marriage?
 
Lowest level in terms of outright numbers, or in percentage of women of child bearing age?
Considering the fact that the baby boom generation has passed that stage of their lives. This is a very legitimate and important question.
Lowest in outright numbers. You can parse the number any way you wish-abortions dropped under George Bush-and of course there were NO overseas abortions funded by the US when Bush was president-something President obama allowed his third day in office.

I am sure you can priovde us a link to the percentage of child bearing age?
If that was the best the GOP was willing to do when they had the prime opportunity, they’re a party of lies and empty promises. The only promises they keep is to enact fiscal policies that serve to create more social injustice.
Every single limitation on abortion since Roe was forced on the country has come via republican legislators or republican appointed judges. Every single limitation on abortion since roe was imposed on the country was fought vehemently by Democrat legislators and democrat appointed judges. It is interesting that only those claiming to be pro-life but wishing to support the Democrat party make these absurd claims about the ineffedtiveness of the republican party on abortion. Go to the NARL or NOW webstes and see what they have to say about how “ineffective” the republican Party is Heres some examples:

“Tonight, Americans saw the clear difference between Sens. Barack Obama and John McCain when it comes to the issue of a woman’s right to choose. Sen. Obama reiterated his long-standing commitment to women’s reproductive freedom and privacy. Sen. Obama also outlined how he will unite Americans behind commonsense, common-ground ways to improve women’s health-care options and prevent unintended pregnancy. McCain, on the other hand, restated his call for the overturn of Roe v. Wade. That’s no secret: McCain has voted against a woman’s right to choose for more than 25 years, and he has even voted against birth control, which is one of the best ways to reduce the need for abortion. McCain’s hypocrisy represents the divisive political attacks that Americans are tired of.”

NARL 10/16/08

"Palin clearly believes that she and other anti-choice politicians like John McCain should be able to make personal, private decisions for American women and their families. Palin claimed she supports contraception but then undercut her own statement by later refusing to stand up for women’s access to emergency contraception.

NARL-10/01/08

Over the last several years, access to abortion has been restricted or made more difficult by many new state laws. These include requiring expensive ultrasound tests; mandated waiting periods that increase the cost of the procedure; parental involvement requirements; and targeted regulation of abortion clinics that make operations costly and difficult. Other state efforts, such as those designed to establish fetal personhood, are intended to create a test case for the Supreme Court to use in overturning or further limiting Roe.

NOW 1/22/09

After a bipartisan effort that led to the passage of the stem cell research bill in both the House and Senate, George W. Bush vetoed this legislation that would have eased restraints on federally funded embryonic stem cell research, utilizing donated human embryos that would otherwise be destroyed. This is the second time George Bush has used his veto power to override a measure that could have led to treatment of debilitating illnesses and life-threatening diseases such as Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s diseases, heart disease, spinal cord injury, and diabetes.

NOW 6/20/07

So please tell us why organizations commited to advancng aborton so opposed to the party you say is so ineffective?
 
What did Jesus say about same sex marriage?
It is a sin and abomination. Got scripture? Marriage is between a man and woman.

I am pretty certain Ms. Palin is for conventional marriage. There are lots of threads on this site where the proponents are trying to convince us it is fine nothing to worry about.

Eddie Mac
 
If you make 250k per year I don’t feel bad that you may have to pay more in taxes!

What is the social justice platform of the Republicans?
Ensuring Equal Treatment for All
Individual rights – and the responsibilities that go with them – are the foundation of a free society. From the time of Lincoln, equality of individuals has been a cornerstone of the Republican Party. Our commitment to equal opportunity extends from landmark school-choice legislation for the students of Washington D.C. to historic appointments at the highest levels of government. We consider discrimination based on sex, race, age, religion, creed, disability, or national origin to be immoral, and we will strongly enforce anti-discrimination statutes. We ask all to join us in rejecting the forces of hatred and bigotry and in denouncing all who practice or promote racism, anti-Semitism, ethnic prejudice, or religious intolerance. As a matter of principle, Republicans oppose any attempts to create race-based governments within the United States, as well as any domestic governments not bound by the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.

Precisely because we oppose discrimination, we reject preferences, quotas, and set-asides, whether in education or in corporate boardrooms. The government should not make contracts on this basis, and neither should corporations. We support efforts to help low-income individuals get a fair shot based on their potential and merit, and we affirm the common-sense approach of the Chief Justice of the United States: that the way to stop discriminating on the basis of race is to stop discriminating.

Maintaining The Sanctity and Dignity of Human Life
Faithful to the first guarantee of the Declaration of Independence, we assert the inherent dignity and sanctity of all human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution, and we endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children. We oppose using public revenues to promote or perform abortion and will not fund organizations which advocate it. We support the appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity and dignity of innocent human life.
 
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