Palm reading, etc

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I don’t believe in palm reading and such things, however I know someone who does. Can someone help me understand why the Church says this is wrong… I agree with the Church, I just want to understand more on this 🙂

what about the theory that by looking at people’s facial characteristics, etc, you can tell about their personality? is that also new agey? (I don’t believe in this also, and even if it’s true, I believe people can change 🙂 I also wouldn’t be comfortable with trying to determine something about a person based on a physical trait)

I don’t want to argue with the person but if they ask me my view, I would like to be able to defend it with solid reasoning… can anyone help me understand the problems with palm reading (the person told me it’s not about telling the future, but one’s “fate” and such), and if the second theory I described belongs to the new age.

Also… I know the Church is against horoscopes and I dont read them, but are they part of divination/occult?

If all these things break the First Commandment, - how can I help this person, without arguing, sounding judgemental, telling them they’re sinning and condemning them to hell, etc, - but in a loving and also truthful way?

thanks, God bless!
 
When people seek the answers to the many questions they have about life in such things as palm-reading, tarot cards, horoscopes, and more…that is divination, that we know is forbidden by the first commandment.

God alone has everything we need, and has done everything for us!

If the person you would like to explain this to does not believe in God, then hopefully you can share with him/her about your faith, and that God guides us to everything that is good for us, and that He is a personal and loving God who created us out of love.

If they are Christian, I’m sure you would know not to be condemning of them, but to calmly explain that it is turning away from our Lord and King to even think of seeking answers in forbidden ways, when He supplies all the answers when we seek him in faith.
 
Monica4316 said:
I don’t believe in palm reading and such things, however I know someone who does. Can someone help me understand why the Church says this is wrong… I agree with the Church, I just want to understand more on this 🙂

what about the theory that by looking at people’s facial characteristics, etc, you can tell about their personality? is that also new agey? (I don’t believe in this also, and even if it’s true, I believe people can change 🙂 I also wouldn’t be comfortable with trying to determine something about a person based on a physical trait)

I don’t want to argue with the person but if they ask me my view, I would like to be able to defend it with solid reasoning… can anyone help me understand the problems with palm reading (the person told me it’s not about telling the future, but one’s “fate” and such), and if the second theory I described belongs to the new age.

Also… I know the Church is against horoscopes and I dont read them, but are they part of divination/occult?

If all these things break the First Commandment, - how can I help this person, without arguing, sounding judgemental, telling them they’re sinning and condemning them to hell, etc, - but in a loving and also truthful way?

thanks, God bless!
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Greetings Monica4316,

All Forms of divination contradict the honor, respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone. - From the Catechism of the Catholic Church paragraph 2116

Why look to someone’s face to get who they are. That sounds pretty new age to me. [Actually it sounds BS to me].

Yes horoscopes are part of diviniation.

Either your friend will accept that this is wrong or right. All you can do is present to your friend the truth in a charitable manner.

God Bless.
Anathama Sit
 
Yes, the CCC teaches that such things are to be avoided, and it specifically mentions horoscopes and palm reading. (I find it amusing that your friend said that palm reading "is not telling the future but one’s ‘fate’ ". What is fate but a person’s destiny or what is to happen to a person, i.e. telling their future!)

The reason the Church teaches us to reject these things is that they “all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor, respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone.”

From the CCC (bold is mine):

"Divination and magic

2115 God can reveal the future to his prophets or to other saints. Still, a sound Christian attitude consists in putting oneself confidently into the hands of Providence for whatever concerns the future, and giving up all unhealthy curiosity about it. Improvidence, however, can constitute a lack of responsibility.
2116 All forms of *divination *are to be rejected: recourse to Satan or demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices falsely supposed to “unveil” the future. Consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretation of omens and lots, the phenomena of clairvoyance, and recourse to mediums all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor, respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone.
2117 All practices of *magic *or sorcery, by which one attempts to tame occult powers, so as to place them at one’s service and have a supernatural power over others - even if this were for the sake of restoring their health - are gravely contrary to the virtue of religion. These practices are even more to be condemned when accompanied by the intention of harming someone, or when they have recourse to the intervention of demons. Wearing charms is also reprehensible. *Spiritism *often implies divination or magical practices; the Church for her part warns the faithful against it. Recourse to so-called traditional cures does not justify either the invocation of evil powers or the exploitation of another’s credulity."
 
You don’t need to bring religion into the topic. From a strictly logical standpoint, stuff like palm reading already fails. There is no reasonable connection between who you are, what’ll happen to you, and a bunch of random lines on your hand.

It’s the same with faces. In fact, the next time someone tries to bring up the topic of ‘reading people’ via their facial features, give 'em my favorite, age-old saying: “Never a judge a book by its cover.” :cool:

P.S.

As for horoscopes, the same logic applies.
Artistic themes based on the zodiac on the other hand might be a different subject. 😉
 
Monica4316 said:
I don’t believe in palm reading and such things, however I know someone who does. Can someone help me understand why the Church says this is wrong… I agree with the Church, I just want to understand more on this 🙂

what about the theory that by looking at people’s facial characteristics, etc, you can tell about their personality? iss!
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something can be unscientific and without any reliable basis at all, yet still not be against any church teaching, or still not be “new age”. If the practice is used to claim some supernatural knowledge or power belonging properly only to God, then it is an offense against the first commandment. If the practice simply claims to operate under some natural law as yet not understood, it may be wacky, unproven, alternative, or misguided but that does not make it sinful, unless there is also some other immorality such as fraud being used with the practice.
 
Palm reading is a form of getting occult information or hidden information. And from
a book, “Truth About the Devil” by Very Rev. Dominic Szymanski, O.M.C., D.D., J.U.D.
Co-Founder of Marytown:

"FORTUNE TELLERS AND THE LIKE.* Those who seek information from fortune tellers and ouija boards, or cures from spiritualists, often become possessed.* They seek information, not from God, but from forbidden sources.* Hence it is no wonder that the devils enter and give them even more information than they care to have.* God complained of Ochozias, the King of Israel: “Is there not a God in Israel that ye go to consult Beelzebub, the god of Accaron?”* Some spiritualists effect apparent cures by prayers, but afterward the cured persons are afflicted in other ways day and night.* The devil makes them pay a heavy price for services rendered. "
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   One young wife when see a palm reader and the palm reader said that there was an evil spirit that was following her  then 3 year old son.  For  $200 dollars the palm reader would remove this spirit.  The young woman refused.  Three days latter a drunken man receiving sex from a prostitute while driving crossed the median of  the interstate hwy.  into the car driven by this unfortunate young woman.   Due to a defective car seat this young boy was ejected from the back seat  flying through the front windshield for 200 feet before landing in a pile of soft loose dirt.  His mother who was driving crawled with a broken back who found her son suffocating and  she gave him artificial respiration. He incuurred permanent brain damage and can make no meaningful or willing full movement or even speak  and this is permanent.

     This young women just went with some of her friends to find out something about their husbands.  They were not really so serious about it.  This particular lady is a very good person and is a Roman Catholic. She is a blood relation to one of our Popes even. Personally I believe Satan used this opportunity to hurt this Vicar of Christ's blood family.
I say this because both she and her husband have seen shadow people leaning over this poor child. However, I am confident with prayer, especially if some prayer warriors here would pray this little boy may be relieved of this torment and healed.
 
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