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For since they hold it for certain that men destitute of all religious sense are very rarely to be found, they seem to have founded on that belief a hope that the nations, although they differ among themselves in certain religious matters, will without much difficulty come to agree as brethren in professing certain doctrines, which form as it were a common basis of the spiritual life. For which reason conventions, meetings and addresses are frequently arranged by these persons, at which a large number of listeners are present, and at which all without distinction are invited to join in the discussion, both infidels of every kind, and Christians, even those who have unhappily fallen away from Christ or who with obstinacy and pertinacity deny His divine nature and mission. Certainly such attempts can nowise be approved by Catholics, founded as they are on that false opinion which considers all religions to be more or less good and praiseworthy, since they all in different ways manifest and signify that sense which is inborn in us all, and by which we are led to God and to the obedient acknowledgment of His rule. Not only are those who hold this opinion in error and deceived, but also in distorting the idea of true religion they reject it, and little by little. turn aside to naturalism and atheism, as it is called; from which it clearly follows that one who supports those who hold these theories and attempt to realize them, is altogether abandoning the divinely revealed religion.”-** Pius XI(Encyclical Mortalium Animos)**
 
A Catholic sins against faith by apostasy, heresy, indifferentism, and by taking part in non-Catholic worship.”-Baltimore Catechism (No.205)
 
The faithful – especially those who are simple or uncultivated – should be kept away from dangerous and narrow paths upon which they can hardly set foot without faltering. The sheep should not be led to pasture through trackless places. Nor should peculiar ideas – even those of Catholic scholars – be proposed to them. Rather, only those ideas should be communicated which are definitely marked as Catholic truth by their universality, antiquity, and harmony. Besides, since the crowd cannot go up to the mountain[5] upon which the glory of the Lord came down, and if whoever crosses the boundaries to see will die, the teachers of the people should establish boundaries around them so that no word strays beyond that which is necessary or useful for salvation. The faithful should obey the apostolic advice not to know more than is necessary, but to know in moderation”-Pope Clement XIII In Dominicio Agro
 
The same applies to the notion of Fraternity which they found on the love of common interest or, beyond all philosophies and religions, on the mere notion of humanity, thus embracing with an equal love and tolerance all human beings and their miseries, whether these are intellectual, moral, or physical and temporal. But Catholic doctrine tells us that the primary duty of charity does not lie in the toleration of false ideas, however sincere they may be, nor in the theoretical or practical indifference towards the errors and vices in which we see our brethren plunged, but in the zeal for their intellectual and moral improvement as well as for their material well-being. Catholic doctrine further tells us that love for our neighbor flows from our love for God, Who is Father to all, and goal of the whole human family; and in Jesus Christ whose members we are, to the point that in doing good to others we are doing good to Jesus Christ Himself. Any other kind of love is sheer illusion, sterile and fleeting.” -Pope St. Pius X (Apostolic Letter Notre Charge)
 
Do you have a question about these quotes? What’s the purpose here?
 
Do you have a question about these quotes? What’s the purpose here?
Anne is correct. My purpose to to get these writings out there because we live in an age where many catholics think its okay to partake in non-catholic worship services. This, in my opinion, could lead to scandal. I put the quotes there for folks to reflect on the fact that Holy Mother Church takes a clear stance on this issue.
 
Anne is correct. My purpose to to get these writings out there because we live in an age where many catholics think its okay to partake in non-catholic worship services. This, in my opinion, could lead to scandal. I put the quotes there for folks to reflect on the fact that Holy Mother Church takes a clear stance on this issue.
So is this okay?

google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftabletmag.com%2Fjewish-news-and-politics%2F127310%2Fis-a-jesuit-good-for-the-jews&ei=rcdIVYQQyqGDBPzKgKgK&bvm=bv.92291466,d.eXY&psig=AFQjCNFkZyphG9TLRE96_SldzNJ-UZIBeg&ust=1430919469496036

what about this?

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Or what about this?

youtube.com/watch?v=uA4EPOfic5A

:confused: I guess its okay?
 
The only question that we should be asking on this, is what is current Church teaching on this?

I won’t do the research for folks, but I suggest a glance at the CCC to figure it out 😉

Hint: “Taking part in” does not mean “not attending”.
 
For since they hold it for certain that men destitute of all religious sense are very rarely to be found, they seem to have founded on that belief a hope that the nations, although they differ among themselves in certain religious matters, will without much difficulty come to agree as brethren in professing certain doctrines, which form as it were a common basis of the spiritual life. For which reason conventions, meetings and addresses are frequently arranged by these persons, at which a large number of listeners are present, and at which all without distinction are invited to join in the discussion, both infidels of every kind, and Christians, even those who have unhappily fallen away from Christ or who with obstinacy and pertinacity deny His divine nature and mission. Certainly such attempts can nowise be approved by Catholics, founded as they are on that false opinion which considers all religions to be more or less good and praiseworthy, since they all in different ways manifest and signify that sense which is inborn in us all, and by which we are led to God and to the obedient acknowledgment of His rule. Not only are those who hold this opinion in error and deceived, but also in distorting the idea of true religion they reject it, and little by little. turn aside to naturalism and atheism, as it is called; from which it clearly follows that one who supports those who hold these theories and attempt to realize them, is altogether abandoning the divinely revealed religion.”-** Pius XI(Encyclical Mortalium Animos)**
This encyclical was response to three specific events in history:
  • 1910 World Missionary Conference
  • 1920 letter “To all the Churches of Christ, wherever they may be” by Germanus V of Constantinople, the Patriarch of the Orthodox Church
  • Imminent formation of the League of Nations
One cannot understand this encyclical without some understanding of these historical events as they happened in the early 20th century.

-Tim-
 
This encyclical was response to three specific events in history:
  • 1910 World Missionary Conference
  • 1920 letter “To all the Churches of Christ, wherever they may be” by Germanus V of Constantinople, the Patriarch of the Orthodox Church
  • Imminent formation of the League of Nations
You do understand that the whole World Council of Churches was instigated by the Rockefeller clan(?)

One cannot understand this encyclical without some understanding of these historical events as they happened in the early 20th century.

-Tim-
 
So is this okay?

google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftabletmag.com%2Fjewish-news-and-politics%2F127310%2Fis-a-jesuit-good-for-the-jews&ei=rcdIVYQQyqGDBPzKgKgK&bvm=bv.92291466,d.eXY&psig=AFQjCNFkZyphG9TLRE96_SldzNJ-UZIBeg&ust=1430919469496036

He was not praying the Islamic prayers, to my knowledge. That being said, not everything a pope says or does is infallible. Interfaith prayer services could never be infallible and therefore they could never be morally binding. Pan-Christianity is the attempt to view Christ’s Church as some sort of loose federation of different churches holding different doctorines. This concept is clearly, in my mind, not compatible with doctrine.

what about this?

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Or what about this?

youtube.com/watch?v=uA4EPOfic5A

:confused: I guess its okay?
 
This encyclical was response to three specific events in history:
  • 1910 World Missionary Conference
  • 1920 letter “To all the Churches of Christ, wherever they may be” by Germanus V of Constantinople, the Patriarch of the Orthodox Church
  • Imminent formation of the League of Nations
One cannot understand this encyclical without some understanding of these historical events as they happened in the early 20th century.

-Tim-
A couple points:

the World Missionary Conference is tied to the World Council of Churches whic was instigated by the Rockefellar clan. A good source would be “Thy Kingdom Come: Nelson Rockefellar and the conquest of the amazon. Evangelism in the age of oil”. You can find it on amazon.com.

The encyclical is actually pretty straight forward. He specifically condemns the idea that the Church of Christ is some sort of loose federation of churches with different doctrines. In other words, the concept that there is a “superchurch” in which the Catholic Church, the One True Church, is only a member. This idea is being spread like wildfire in today’s culture.
 
Anne is correct. My purpose to to get these writings out there because we live in an age where many catholics think its okay to partake in non-catholic worship services. This, in my opinion, could lead to scandal. I put the quotes there for folks to reflect on the fact that Holy Mother Church takes a clear stance on this issue.
I see now. I couldn’t tell if you were asking if current Catholic teaching on ecumenism is at odds with this or not, so I just wanted to make sure.

But I agree, it is wrong to participate in other denominations worship services and to treat the Church like it’s just one among many. That’s not the proper view at all.
 
I see now. I couldn’t tell if you were asking if current Catholic teaching on ecumenism is at odds with this or not, so I just wanted to make sure.

But I agree, it is wrong to participate in other denominations worship services and to treat the Church like it’s just one among many. That’s not the proper view at all.
I’m glad to see that someone else feels the same way. It’s what I was raised with and it seems that there’s a lot of people with the erroneous attitude that it really doesn’t matter which church one is a member of.
 
A couple points:

the World Missionary Conference is tied to the World Council of Churches whic was instigated by the Rockefellar clan. A good source would be “Thy Kingdom Come: Nelson Rockefellar and the conquest of the amazon. Evangelism in the age of oil”. You can find it on amazon.com.

The encyclical is actually pretty straight forward. He specifically condemns the idea that the Church of Christ is some sort of loose federation of churches with different doctrines. In other words, the concept that there is a “superchurch” in which the Catholic Church, the One True Church, is only a member. This idea is being spread like wildfire in today’s culture.
Well written. Thank you.

You point is illustrated how many refer to the Catholic Church as a denomination. I reply that the Catholic Church is the original, universal Church from which all other churches have de-nominated themselves. To de-nominate means to take another name - no longer Catholic/Universal.

Thanks again for the excellent reply.

-Tim-
 
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