Pandemic as Gods way of teaching us to empathise with the Amazonians?

[RepetantCatholic]

I agree with you on that, and in the larger scope of things we have it great. Right, now, at the moment it is better than 2000-2010 when the Economy was changing and people were scrambling for work and people losing their homes. What is helping us right now is that we now have access to online retail and the diversity of products with cheaper goods from China.

But, when it comes to the future I see I economic problems with global monetary makers inflating the market with cheap cash through loans. So, a lot of countries and companies are overleveraged. So, that is why if I had kids, which I’m not going to have kids, I would raise them to be self-reliant and live simply, focus on what they know and the local community.

As for the overall purview of the past, it’s all relative to me. There are periods of Renaissance and Enlightenment and overall wealth growth along with revitalization of Faith, and there are periods of turbulence. So, I only compare what I know and experience with the knowledge I am no greater than previous generations of old.

In my 38 years I would say my teens and the nineties were the highlight because it was a period marked by greater hopes of the future. The Berlin Wall fell, USSR became Russia again and it seemed like there could be no problem in the world. However, this was followed by 9/11 and two wars while domestically there was a difficult Economy. Through this time I worked in Finance for a short period and went to law school. I wouldn’t change my life or trade it for anyone else’s although I did develop a disability.

So, again, just being cautious in mind with how a lot of Finance from my experience is driven by short-term gain, there could be hard times ahead. I’ll be fine, but again I’m single and celibate since 27 and won’t have children so life is easier on me. I have a home without a mortgage on it. So, the best is to be self-reliant and not rely on Governance or Corporations.

 

[RepetantCatholic]

I agree, although I don’t like to write that. The problem with the Corona Virus, isn’t as much health (although that is the problem) it’s that a lot of companies are living pay check to pay check and are overleveraged with debt. So, with an event as enormous as Corona they may not have the financials to weather the short-term loss which may go on for months ahead. Again, I agree with you but if we go into recession Corona was only the spark that set the tinder aflame. The longer term problem is monetary policy makers flooding the market with low interest rate in an effort to spur consumerism and keep the market going.

We’ll see what happens next. Hopefully, it is not a recession because here in America with every recession the wealth divide grows.

 

[MagdalenaRita]

IMHO it is the opposite. Not that we did not empathize with the Amazonians, because I believe most every one did, but instead we gave them and other members of the Church, the idea that it is okay to bring idols into our holiest of places, God’s sanctuary.

 

[EndTimes]

IMHO it is the opposite. Not that we did not empathize with the Amazonians, because I believe most every one did, but instead we gave them and other members of the Church, the idea that it is okay to bring idols into our holiest of places, God’s sanctuary.

Everyone involved in bowing to a wooden idol of an evil Pagan goddess in the Vatican Garden
and not jumping out of their seats in Disgust
appears to have broken God’s First Commandment … ?

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1. I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them.

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[Emeraldlady]

Perhaps it wasn’t prudent to let the South American people demonstrate their traditional indigenous faith at the Synod in this climate of hysteria but to most Catholics it presents no scandal or offense. It was always the Protestants that were obsessed with Catholic idol worshiping in the past.

The New Testament speaks to Catholics about more base vices like greed and lust and how those are idolatry. With the coming of Christ, God with us, worshiping graven images no longer can sustain occult efficacy as if there is any other god but God. Satan knows this also and is having a field day with the lack of outrage about greed and lust as idolatry.

I did not see much empathy for the Amazonians from the faction. Only obsession with a manufactured distraction.

 

[EndTimes]

Perhaps it wasn’t prudent to let the South American people demonstrate their traditional indigenous faith at the Synod in this climate of hysteria but to most Catholics it presents no scandal or offense

It wasn’t the indigenous who planned the script…

Pachamama was the final straw in a Synod which never lived up to its billing.

 

[Emeraldlady]

Emeraldlady:

Perhaps it wasn’t prudent to let the South American people demonstrate their traditional indigenous faith at the Synod in this climate of hysteria but to most Catholics it presents no scandal or offense

It wasn’t the indigenous who planned the script…

Pachamama was the final straw in a Synod which never lived up to its billing.

It was a demonstration of how the awesome benevolence of the unknown Creator is manifest among people even before and outside the Church. In “Crossing the Threshold of Hope” Pope St John Paul II commented…

At this point, it seems opportune to recall all the primitive religions, the Animist type of religion , which puts first emphasis on the worship of their ancestors. It seems that those who practice it are particularly close to Christianity. Among them the missionaries of the Church more easily find a common language.

Is there, perhaps, in this veneration of the ancestors a kind of preparation for the Christian belief in the communion of saints, wherein all believers - whether living or dead - form a single community, a single body? Faith in the communion of the saints is, ultimately, faith in Christ, the only source of life and holiness for all.

There is nothing strange, then, in the fact that the African and Asian animists would become confessors of Christ …

The Church is not traditionally terrified of pre Christian worship. In fact it recognises in it Gods preparation for Christianity.

It is the hubris of modern Christian factions that can see only in terms of “we’re good. They’re evil”

 

[StudentMI]

Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

 

[MagdalenaRita]

to most Catholics it presents no scandal or offense.

Many Catholics didn’t even know it happened because many do not follow that closely. To say it didn’t bother most Catholics would be difficult to know. You could say it didn’t bother you or some Catholics you know but “most” is just at best a guess. In all charity, unless you have some statistics to back up what you are saying.

Protestants that were obsessed with Catholic idol worshiping in the past.

Protestants have been concerned with Catholics having statues and icons of our Lord and our Lady and saints. That was because they didn’t understand we did not worship them. They didn’t understand that they are not idols but that they were placed in our churches to teach the faith and to give us a sense of heaven.
Their concern about idol worship though is one that, though they misunderstood our statues, was one that they feared because they know the scripture so much better than Catholics and the O.T. prophets very frequently condemned God’s people for having idols of false gods. In the O.T. God’s people were frequently punished because of idols of false gods or goddesses.

The New Testament speaks to Catholics about more base vices like greed and lust and how those are idolatry.

While, yes, these are sinful vices and forms of idolatry, and they were in O.T. also, I can’t say I ever read in the N.T. Jesus saying since these vices are forms of idolatry, you may go ahead and bring false gods or images of false gods into my sanctuary or I no longer consider having graven images of false gods a sin. As a matter of fact, He got pretty upset when they were just using the temple for buying and selling and that buying and selling was so the people could offer their sacrifices.

Just because one sin is idolatry, doesn’t mean another sin is not idolatry.

I did not see much empathy for the Amazonians from the faction.

The empathy I saw for the Amazonians, was a great empathy. One of concern that they were not hearing the Catholic truth. The truth of what is needed for salvation, for their souls.

Only obsession with a manufactured distraction.

Yes, unfortunately it was a distraction, one that distracted people from the true God.

God bless.

 

[EndTimes]

The empathy I saw for the Amazonians, was an empathy that they were not hearing the Catholic truth.

They were fed up with non-Amazonian Liberal Theologians who peddled politics instead of Jesus,

Amazonians have been leaving the Catholic Church in droves.

Evangelicals are swooping them up

That Synod has been mostly forgotten save for those trying to claim how great it was.
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[OurLadyofSorrows]

The Pandemic could be Gods way of focusing us back on globally love your neighbour and less on heading into war and missile launches and starvation in Yemen and the Syrian issue. The fear now is covid19 will get into the Syrian refugee camps and into the Yemen.

 

[EndTimes]

The Pandemic could be Gods way of focusing us back on globally love your neighbour and less on heading into war and missile launches and starvation in Yemen and the Syrian issue. The fear now is covid19 will get into the Syrian refugee camps and into the Yemen.

Could be - I’m aware of those and other situations too…

Still…

As I read Prophecies from God, and Teachings from the Church, as far as war… It’s not only been here at levels rarely realized, the FallOut from this virus has geo-political overtones connected with Economy - which connects with Miltitary Security - which very potentially fuels more warring…

 

[Emeraldlady]

OurLadyofSorrows:

The Pandemic could be Gods way of focusing us back on globally love your neighbour and less on heading into war and missile launches and starvation in Yemen and the Syrian issue. The fear now is covid19 will get into the Syrian refugee camps and into the Yemen.

Could be - I’m aware of those and other situations too…

Still…

As I read Prophecies from God, and Teachings from the Church, as far as war… It’s not only been here at levels rarely realized, the FallOut from this virus has geo-political overtones connected with Economy - which connects with Miltitary Security - which very potentially fuels more warring…

The point is that such an event as corona virus will demonstrate an important universal and divine Truth. ie. charity is the way to overcome evil.

 

[stpurl]

We know about charity. It’s just that some people define charity in problematic ways.

It’s like delivering a medication to somebody who is sick, but sticking ‘just a little poison’ in the medication. The whole medication needed is right there, but because of the addition of the poison it won’t work correctly.

Charity which is adulterated with falsehood then becomes no charity at all.

Of course here again people will say that the poison isn’t ‘really’ poison, or that ‘those things aren’t really false, exactly, relatively speaking’. . .etc. etc. etc.

 

[MagdalenaRita]

The point is that such an event as corona virus will demonstrate an important universal and divine Truth. ie. charity is the way to overcome evil.

Yes charity can conquer evil, though charity is loving someone because of God and the way God wants us to love. That means sharing the truth of Jesus and His Catholic church and not always giving to people what this world wants them to have.

 

[EndTimes]

The point is that such an event as corona virus will demonstrate an important universal and divine Truth. ie. charity is the way to overcome evil.

Hopefully yes … as it’s also bringing out the worst from the other side of the Mess…

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