Pants for women?

[latinmass]

I don’t think we were talking about jeans…I don’t own any…I am specifically speaking about nice dress slacks…and IMO and that is my opinion only, I think a woman can look every bit as ladylike in a nice pair of dress pants as a dress…and every bit as respectable and dignified.

I apologize, I meant to say pants, lets take a personal poll on if one saw a women dressed in a nice pant suit, or a nice modest dress, which would be more lady like. The point I am making though is that public opinion does not matter, because most think all wearing jeans or shorts is fine also. Which it is not. Like I said before, we need to dress according to what is proper for a man and women, regardless of what society says.

 

[holdencaulfield]

*What? * LOL…that is up to them…but where I buy my womens’s pants/slacks…they are in the WOMEN’s section…I don’t buy out of the mens department.

IMO…that was kind of a silly question.

I was just kidding, you know emo kids.

 

[BlyssfulDreamer]

I apologize, I meant to say pants, lets take a personal poll on if one saw a women dressed in a nice pant suit, or a nice modest dress, which would be more lady like. The point I am making though is that public opinion does not matter, because most think all wearing jeans or shorts is fine also. Which it is not. Like I said before, we need to dress according to what is proper for a man and women, regardless of what society says.

I am going to leave this thread with one last post because I feel I am beating a dead horse and can only say the same thing over and over. I wear pants for a very specific, personal reason which I mentioned early on in the thread and was told I was asking for sympathy…so let me say this and then I will move on to something else. The priest at my TLM oratory told me there is no problem with me wearing pants and I take him at his word. I attend daily Mass everyday and am trying as everyone else is to be a good Catholic. I don’t feel God is going to judge me by how I dress but by how I live my life and treat the people I meet on a daily basis. I don’t feel a nice, respectable pair of womens’ dress pants makes me any more or less of a woman.

My best to everyone who has posted their heartfelt comments on this thread. I am now done with it.

 

[holdencaulfield]

I am going to leave this thread with one last post because I feel I am beating a dead horse and can only say the same thing over and over. I wear pants for a very specific, personal reason which I mentioned early on in the thread and was told I was asking for sympathy…so let me say this and then I will move on to something else. The priest at my TLM oratory told me there is no problem with me wearing pants and I take him at his word. I attend daily Mass everyday and am trying as everyone else is to be a good Catholic. I don’t feel God is going to judge me by how I dress but by how I live my life and treat the people I meet on a daily basis. I don’t feel a nice, respectable pair of womens’ dress pants makes me any more or less of a woman.

My best to everyone who has posted their heartfelt comments on this thread. I am now done with it.

That’s fine. I see nothing wrong with pants.

 

[catharina]

I am going to leave this thread with one last post because I feel I am beating a dead horse and can only say the same thing over and over. I wear pants for a very specific, personal reason which I mentioned early on in the thread and was told I was asking for sympathy…so let me say this and then I will move on to something else. The priest at my TLM oratory told me there is no problem with me wearing pants and I take him at his word. I attend daily Mass everyday and am trying as everyone else is to be a good Catholic. I don’t feel God is going to judge me by how I dress but by how I live my life and treat the people I meet on a daily basis. I don’t feel a nice, respectable pair of womens’ dress pants makes me any more or less of a woman.

My best to everyone who has posted their heartfelt comments on this thread. I am now done with it.

God bless you and I thank you.

God’s grace and peace is everything!

 

[holdencaulfield]

I will say it again. St. Joan of Arc wore pants.

 

[catharina]

I will say it again. St. Joan of Arc wore pants.

Yup - and St. John Gabriel Perboyre was martyred on a cross
in China in his ordinary garb: the gown of a Chinese people.

Some folks seem to be culture-bound.
(No offense to you, holden!)

 

[laudamus_te]

I will say it again. St. Joan of Arc wore pants.

Don’t bother. It’s been said a bazillion times. We all know that Joan of Arc wore pants. That has nothing to do with what I think about pants on women. I don’t like them. On the other hand, if I felt called to lead an army into battle, perhaps I’d change my mind.

There’s also no need to drag in the “what people in other countries wear” angle. Catharina, I’ll say it again: you are overreacting big time. I have no clue what all that stuff you posted has to do with this thread. I also think that you might consider avoiding this kind of topic if it is a danger to your health and/or is an occasion to sin (anger - per your own words).

Some of us prefer to NOT wear pants. We are entitled to that preference. We are also entitled to our opinion that it would be nice if all women, generally speaking, dressed like ladies, i.e. NOT in pants. If you think women dressed in pants is ladylike, fine. I allow you your opinion. If someone feels they need to wear pants for some reason, fine. I stated early on in this thread that I don’t criticize anyone who wears pants (unless they are immodest - and in so many cases nowadays they are). I don’t need to present any “church teaching” to shore up a simple opinion. No one here has framed their opinion as if it were doctrine. I find the almost knee-jerk reactions to any statement of opinion which is anti-pants on women to be interesting, to say the least. I have to wonder why it is such a sore spot.

 

[holdencaulfield]

Some folks seem to be culture-bound.
(No offense to you, holden!)

? ?

 

[holdencaulfield]

Some of us prefer to NOT wear pants. We are entitled to that preference. We are also entitled to our opinion that it would be nice if all women, generally speaking, dressed like ladies, i.e. NOT in pants. If you think women dressed in pants is ladylike, fine. I allow you your opinion. If someone feels they need to wear pants for some reason, fine. I stated early on in this thread that I don’t criticize anyone who wears pants (unless they are immodest - and in so many cases nowadays they are). I don’t need to present any “church teaching” to shore up a simple opinion. No one here has framed their opinion as if it were doctrine. I find the almost knee-jerk reactions to any statement of opinion which is anti-pants on women to be interesting, to say the least. I have to wonder why it is such a sore spot.

I never said there was anything wrong with that?

 

[catharina]

… Catharina, I’ll say it again: you are overreacting big time. I have no clue what all that stuff you posted has to do with this thread. I also think that you might consider avoiding this kind of topic if it is a danger to your health and/or is an occasion to sin (anger - per your own words).

**Thanks for drawing a conclusion and accusing me of sin. Wow, you and your folks are waaaay up the food chain, huh? **

**Statements like the following might be annoying to some people, people, for example who know you can allow me NOTHING since you have NO authority over me - but dream on. **

**per laudamus te: **I’lI allow you your opinion." Sure!

**Get on back to your thread promoting the canonization of Marcel Lefebvre. **

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=218196

**You seem quite at home there but still SO negative as you so often are. I’ll guess you’re wearing a modest skirt while you promote your hero. **

 

[laudamus_te]

Thanks for drawing a conclusion and accusing me of sin. Wow, you and your folks are waaaay up the food chain, huh?

If you read carefully, with your head and not your wild emotions, you will see that I did not accuse you of sin. I did not even draw a conclusion. What I said was in response to your own words:

As for me, my rheumatoid arthritis and hypertension are causing me to decide to bow out of this thread for now.

I’ll guess you’re wearing a modest skirt while you promote your hero.

Why, yes I am. I’m sorry that it bothers you so much.

As for the remainder of your comments, I will let them go. All I will say is that you have used every opportunity to insult me personally. If you will read back, you will see that I have refrained from any kind of personal insult to you. I will not subject myself to your irrational diatribes anymore.

 

[piouswoman]

catharina:
After reading catharina’s response to laudamus te all I can say is…
wow…that is a very sad and depressing reaction you just had, it is way over the top and furthermore it is not worthy of being on a Catholic website, I think the moderators should take note of this…maybe the church really does need to split, you know, to separate the wheat from the chaff.

 

[catharina]

If you read carefully, with your head and not your wild emotions, you will see that I did not accuse you of sin. I did not even draw a conclusion. What I said was in response to your own words:

Why, yes I am. I’m sorry that it bothers you so much.

As for the remainder of your comments, I will let them go. All I will say is that you have used every opportunity to insult me personally. If you will read back, you will see that I have refrained from any kind of personal insult to you. I will not subject myself to your irrational diatribes anymore.

The grave you are digging for yourself gets deeper. You said:

“I also think that you might consider avoiding this kind of topic if it is a danger to your health and/or is an occasion to sin (anger - per your own words).”

That is, I shall be sinning (acc to your counsel) if I do not avoid this topic since you judge it to be an occasion of sin for me: that is, that I would willingly sin by answering you.

Tragic choice you’ve made.

Good night.

 

[catharina]

After reading catharina’s response to laudamus te all I can say is…
wow…that is a very sad and depressing reaction you just had, it is way over the top and furthermore it is not worthy of being on a Catholic website, I think the moderators should take note of this…maybe the church really does need to split, you know, to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Having just read this post of yours, I no longer have any interest in your opinion. Good night.

 

[dessert]

Let’s all take a charity pill. We need to be supporting our brothers and sisters in the community in our faith. Not fighting about something that can only be cultural and only settled on a Church by Church per bishops. There are more important things than pants issues or shorts issues. There is a lot of misunderstanding going on here. Let’s try some tolerance.

 

[Conservative]

Wow, another “dress code” thread!
…
By the way, pants in this country are what you would call panties, so yes, I always wear them

This horse is definitely dead but…

having participated in other “pants v. skirts” threads and being a pants-wearer, (not to church, though) as they are much more practical, I’m gonna cast my vote on one of the sub-arguments that seems to come up (at least among the ladies.)
…
Pants are warmer.
The fact that there’s more air circulation in a skirt (I don’t wear tight ones, and yes, I talking about a long, wool skirt) just makes skirts not as cozy as pants (preferably with tights and socks and boots on underneath.)

To Ora Pro Nobis, Peregrinator (I feel like I’m asking St. Peregrine to pray for us -

• that tells us many Catholics are truly hungry for the answer. First, I SO agree - pants are warmer - and more comfortable. And second, I like wearing tunic tops (a tad more flattering over pants - but then the pants have to be tighter.) Yet, Marylike pamphlets with Imprimatur, published in the 40’s and 50’s (and yes, I know this is the 21st Century) - tell us no pants, except for sporting events and shorts below the knee (both of which are to be loose-fitting).

Then we come across items often in posts here in forum discussing the fact that we might be allowed to - and begging which is the answer. We don’t hear much (anything?) on this topic addressed in the pulpit - and you know, maybe we should.

Let’s not forget Fatima - as far back as 1917 – That fashions would be introduced that would be offensive to God. Which ones? Short skirts, hot pants, low necklines, see-throughs, bathing suits/bikinis, tight-fitting slacks? Without a solid answer, we’re left dangling - and inquiring Catholic minds wanna’ know ! One thing’s for sure - as soon as I get the concrete, clear-cut answer - I’m going shopping !

And that’s why another dress code thread. (I guess).

 

[laudamus_te]

To Ora Pro Nobis, Peregrinator (I feel like I’m asking St. Peregrine to pray for us -

• that tells us many Catholics are truly hungry for the answer. First, I SO agree - pants are warmer - and more comfortable. And second, I like wearing tunic tops (a tad more flattering over pants - but then the pants have to be tighter.) Yet, Marylike pamphlets with Imprimatur, published in the 40’s and 50’s (and yes, I know this is the 21st Century) - tell us no pants, except for sporting events and shorts below the knee (both of which are to be loose-fitting).

Then we come across items often in posts here in forum discussing the fact that we might be allowed to - and begging which is the answer. We don’t hear much (anything?) on this topic addressed in the pulpit - and you know, maybe we should.

Let’s not forget Fatima - as far back as 1917 – That fashions would be introduced that would be offensive to God. Which ones? Short skirts, hot pants, low necklines, see-throughs, bathing suits/bikinis, tight-fitting slacks? Without a solid answer, we’re left dangling - and inquiring Catholic minds wanna’ know ! One thing’s for sure - as soon as I get the concrete, clear-cut answer - I’m going shopping !

And that’s why another dress code thread. (I guess).

Thank you for mentioning Our Lady’s message at Fatima. I look around and see what passes as “normal” attire nowadays, and I am quite shocked. That is, since I began dressing very modestly myself. I am shocked at what I myself used to wear only a few years ago. Now, I don’t feel comfortable going out of the house with even a v-neck top. So naturally when I see the plunging deep-v tops and tight pants and short short skirts, my eyes take offense!

I don’t see it as a “pants bad - skirts good” issue. It is a modesty issue, pure and simple. Can skirts be immodest? Sure they can. Can pants be modest? Yes, but I am hard-pressed to find a pair of pants that doesn’t reveal the features of the derriere. I can comfortably say that I will most likely never wear pants again. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with wishing that society could return to the more generally modest standards of years past.

 

[Island_Oak]

Pants?!? Sin sticks!

Didn’t Dana Carvey use this phrase in his “Church Lady” skits?! If he didn’t, he should have!

 

[Joannm]

My very favorite thing to wear is my sweatpants and a sweatshirt (untucked T shirt and sweat shorts or lighweight pants in the summer) I usually do wear skirts to work but the second I get home and on my days off it is sweatpants and a sweatshirt…home, out, it doesn’t matter. It is what I am most comfortable in.