Pants for women?

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That (outfit above) is incredibly beautiful and elegant.
Oh, to be tall enough to wear it well.
Unfortunately, at barely 5’, if it’s not cut just right, I’d
just look silly.

Still, sooooo pretty!
 
Saint_Gemma said:
I do not think that women should wear pants without wearing some sort of dress over it not, for the most part, because they are immodest, or even because they are male garments, but because women have historically been disrespected more than men. Robes, not pants, have historically been worn by people in respected roles - judges, priests, royalty.
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Funny, I have worn pants for 30+ years and have never felt disrespected at all. I have several reasons for wearing pants and if I felt I could not comfortably wear them to Mass without people looking down on me, I think I would change places where I worship. At least I am not wearing t-shirts with skulls and cross bones, which I have seen at NO Masses. Thankfully, never at a TLM. Many older ladies at the TLM wear pants and pantsuits and are very well received.
 
Wow, another “dress code” thread! :o
I wear skirts all the time but have absolutely no objection to anyone wearing what they like.
By the way, pants in this country are what you would call panties, so yes, I always wear them:p
 
This horse is definitely dead but…

having participated in other “pants v. skirts” threads and being a pants-wearer, (not to church, though) as they are much more practical, I’m gonna cast my vote on one of the sub-arguments that seems to come up (at least among the ladies.)

I’ve paid a great deal of attention to these matters in, this, my first winter in a place where it snows and I have to say:

Pants are warmer.

The fact that there’s more air circulation in a skirt (I don’t wear tight ones, and yes, I talking about a long, wool skirt) just makes skirts not as cozy as pants (preferably with tights and socks and boots on underneath.)
 
Tietjen said:
There are some traditional Catholics (and Clergy) who disapprove of Vatican II. But the OP’s question relates to non-opinionated truth as opposed to individual ideas and opinions. The question was whether girls are “allowed” to wear pants.
Answer - Yes.
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Who has allowed them?
 
peregrinator_it said:
I’ve paid a great deal of attention to these matters in, this, my first winter in a place where it snows and I have to say:

Pants are warmer.

The fact that there’s more air circulation in a skirt (I don’t wear tight ones, and yes, I talking about a long, wool skirt) just makes skirts not as cozy as pants (preferably with tights and socks and boots on underneath.)
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Yup, even tho’ I much prefer to wear skirts/dresses to church they’re just not near as warm!
 
piouswoman said:
I would if I could.
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While I respect your personal view on the subject, why would you ban women from being allowed to wear pants? Please explain beyond the “it’s not feminine” response. I’m not opposed to dresses or skirts by any means, but I see absolutely nothing inappropriate with pants if that is what the woman wishes to wear. Hey, but what do I know… I’m just a male. 😉
 
I go to a very traditional parish and I wear pants.

Try being out in Michigan cold weather in shorts, gentlemen. Oh, by all means put a long coat on and some warm socks, but lets see how your knees feel after a few years of that.

In the summer, I’ve been tempted to don a dress just to stay cool. It gets very hot in my parish. But, for me it is another matter.

For me, the most modest thing I can do is to stay in pants. I use to wear them until a bad experience at work. I was an engineering drafter working on very big boards and it was not uncommon for us to sometimes have climb up on those boards and lay across the drawing to do some work. I overheard one of the guys - married no less - telling the boss to give me a project that would require me to climb up on the board. Soooooo, when I realized I was just someone else’s object, I figured I would take the excitement away by wearing pants. Now, such people no longer have to be concerned with any of my activities.

I know a woman who wore dresses for over 40 years to Church. Her knees were all big and swollen and she could hardly walk. They were always exposed to the frigid air. One day, she finally started coming to Mass in slacks - a smart move.

No one thinks about the basic need to simply keep warm.

As an aside, I have often wondered what the preoccupation was with what women are wearing, with hardly any discussion of what men are wearing.

What gives?
 
piouswoman said:
Who has allowed them?
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Pants have their place as do dresses and skirts. I wear dresses and skirts the vast majority of the time. But the kind of work I do requires my to wear something long enough so when on a ladder my privacy is not compromised. My skirts normally are ankle length for modesty and become a danger in some work situations. So I wear loose pants in this situation as split skirts are not allowed unless your religion requires and Catholic is not one of the exceptions I checked. There is no requirement in Catholicism to wear skirts only. I wish there was then I could wear the split skirt but there isn’t.
 
BlyssfulDreamer said:
Before I started going to the Traditional Latin Mass last year I called and visited with the priest about proper clothing. I asked specifically if i would be allowed to wears nice pants. I am almost 60 and haven’t worn a dress for 30 years…he said it was fine. (I have also noticed other women doing the same.
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This is really nice. How many would have the humility to ask the priest first? Most will exhibit prideful arrogance and just wear what they want because they want to. There’s such a lot of the “I’m me and will do what I want” mentality today.

As to the pants for women question, I personally don’t wear pants at all anymore since going full-time to the TLM. I think they are unattractive. It is very rare to see a woman in a pair of pants that are well-fitting. Most pants bought off the rack are cut for a specific body shape (i.e. no hips and large waist), and a very small percentage of women will really fit into them properly. Not to mention that most women try to fit into pants that are a size or two too small. All you have to do is go sit down at the mall and observe for a few minutes. You’ll see.

I believe the reason so many traditionalists are anti-pants for women is because of the reason behind the wearing of pants by women in our current time in history. It can’t be denied that it was a modernist and liberal attitude of “freeing” of women, and a step towards the blurring of genders to help make women more “equal” to men. This goes against the grain of traditional Catholicism, where the differences between men and women, and their different roles, are valued and encouraged.
 
Tietjen said:
The same people who have allowed men to wear ties. God bless.
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Ties are a man’s article of clothing, pants are a man’s article of clothing. To argue those points is dishonest.

No one has allowed anyone anything…rather people have lost appropriate standards of dress. It is a symptom of modernism, and it cannot be denied. God bless you too.
 
Tietjen said:
While I respect your personal view on the subject, why would you ban women from being allowed to wear pants? Please explain beyond the “it’s not feminine” response. I’m not opposed to dresses or skirts by any means, but I see absolutely nothing inappropriate with pants if that is what the woman wishes to wear. Hey, but what do I know… I’m just a male. 😉
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Of course when I state that I would ban them, we all know that it is just wishful thinking on my part, simply because I don’t have that ability to do so. Thank you for respecting my personal view. I used to wear pants, in fact I can say I did for the better part of my life. But after understanding the reason why women shouldn’t wear pants, I haven’t since. I don’t wear pants under any circumstances, even when doing things that may be easier to do in them. Anything a woman can do in pants, can be done in a skirt.
 
laudamus_te said:
It can’t be denied that it was a modernist and liberal attitude of “freeing” of women, and a step towards the blurring of genders to help make women more “equal” to men. This goes against the grain of traditional Catholicism, where the differences between men and women, and their different roles, are valued and encouraged.
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I’m certainly no expert on the subject; in fact, I haven’t really given it much thought, but why does it have to be about feminine freedom and gender inequality? Maybe some women simply prefer pants either because they provide better warmth in winter or because they in fact do look both professional and “nice” while wearing them. I seriously doubt that there are any women out there who say, “I’m going to show society that I can be masculine” just before they put on a pair of pants. In addition, perhaps wearing pants may in fact be a virtuous and modest thing. As at least one poster has said, when she would wear a skirt to work, many of her male co-workers would become distracted. When she started wearing dress pants, the problem went away.
 
I stopped wearing pants years ago for ankle-length dresses, and in cold weather I’ll layer an outer dress with a thin gauze (or cloth) dress for warmth, as well as the usual under and outer wear…

Very warm, and very comfortable, too. 👍
 
Anything a woman can do in pants, can be done in a skirt.
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er… try riding a bike in a skirt: it will end up around your thighs - not a very modest look!😊
I wish we could all stop disapproving of what other people wear.🤷
 
Tietjen said:
I’m certainly no expert on the subject; in fact, I haven’t really given it much thought, but why does it have to be about feminine freedom and gender inequality? Maybe some women simply prefer pants either because they provide better warmth in winter or because they in fact do look both professional and “nice” while wearing them. I seriously doubt that there are any women out there who say, “I’m going to show society that I can be masculine” just before they put on a pair of pants. In addition, perhaps wearing pants may in fact be a virtuous and modest thing. As at least one poster has said, when she would wear a skirt to work, many of her male co-workers would become distracted. When she started wearing dress pants, the problem went away.
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I must add to you statements - and I do agree with your statements. This type of issue is one where some extreme traditionalists are quite likely to lose the respect of any larger audience.

Meaning: the Western World is the Western World.

I have to imagine that when Sri Lankan males wear their sarongs to Mass and when Chinese women wear their pants to Mass, there is not a single soul willing to criticize them for their choice of clothing in those parts of the world. In fact, as always, our Church, the Holy Catholic Church is present all over the world and the pretense that Texas or France or England or Ottuma Iowa should set clothing guidelines for all Catholics is both insulting and ludicrous.
 
BlyssfulDreamer said:
Before I started going to the Traditional Latin Mass last year I called and visited with the priest about proper clothing. I asked specifically if i would be allowed to wears nice pants. I am almost 60 and haven’t worn a dress for 30 years…he said it was fine. (I have also noticed other women doing the same.
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I’ve noticed recently in TLM as well and wondered a bit. I’d LOVE to wear them for comfort, style, warmth and versatility…not to mention, I like short/shorter skirts but am trying to maintain Marylike dress. The right style skirts are harder to come by and with pants more is covered than some of the skirts I can find.
rebeccal said:
I don’t mean to side bar, but what does our attire have to do with our belief and devotion to God? Clearly, respect is an issue, but will I burn in Hell with a murderer because I feel more comfortable in pants than in a skirt or dress? Does God look down and say “That pitiful woman that I Created! Does she really think she is worthy of wearing Pants?!?!?!?”
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LOL, Rebecca - God’s not thinking fashion dictates our devotion 😃 but the quote in the Bible (and please don’t anybody ask me where - I’m tired:(It’s in the New Testatment)…that men who dress like women and women who dress like men are an abomination to God. However, it’s true - as another poster mentioned, that Our Lord wore a tunic. Priests wear cassocks. In India, Pakistan cultures (International Posters, please advise) - the women wear capri-like pants under tunic tops. I wish more clarification would come regarding pants - but I do think that women in tight pants is the problem.
 
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