Grace and Peace Rev. Ed,
Hi Deacon Ed, I am actually watcing it now.
It’s very lovely. I am just happy the Pope is here so it doesn’t matter to me what the music is. I know many would like to have this sort of Mass every Sunday in thier parishes. I would love it now and again but I wouldn’t like it every Sunday. This was a Mass for clerics and religious only?Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that the mass at Nationals stadium was for the laity, and the mass today at St. Patrick’s was for the Bishops, Priests and Deacons and all religious. At least that was the impression I got.
Chris,Grace and Peace Rev. Ed,
I must admit that it appealed to me more than the Liturgy at Nationals Stadium. Much more traditional and yet the majority took Communion in the Hand.
Of course I recently attended an Eastern Orthodox Liturgy of the Pre-Sanctified Gifts at a local Orthodox Mission House-Church and I found it to be profoundly more reverent than anything we in the West do in our modern liturgy.
What was sad is that this Liturgy of the Pre-Sanctified Gifts is from our own Blessed Pope Gregory yet I must go to an Eastern Orthodox Parish to attend in our own day.
Rev. Deacon:
It was wonderful to see it. So beautiful! An oasis of peace in the midst of the busy metropolis. What a witness! I don’t know if there is perpetual adoration, but there was Adoration in the stunning Lady Chapel, situated behind the altar, while we were there.
I’m wondering if either youtube or ewtn.com would have it.Is it possible to view this Mass on the internet? Or will any of the major TV channels broadcast it? We have only basic channels, and I’d like to see it.
My eleven-year-old and I were just at St. Patricks the day before yesterday, visiting! (We would have preferred to visit St. Pat’s after our Pope had been there to bless it, if it were possible for us.) We had taken a train in to see some New York sights and St. Patricks was our first stop.
After watching our Pope’s arrival on television that night, I was so happy and so peaceful as I was falling asleep. I realized I felt that way because of knowing that this night our Pope was sleeping in our country, blessing us and praying for us! And with him also are his bands of angels and Saints, praying for him and for us.
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Ewtn.com does have it.They are going to make several of the events available on DVD.
It was for Clergy and Religious only. I thought it was delicious on all fronts. The sad part is that the Clergy get the good stuff while the laity are tossed the stuff that was mounted in D.C.
Remember that the efficacious merit of each mass was infinite, i.e., equal, as there are no degrees in infiniteness.
It was for Clergy and Religious only. I thought it was delicious on all fronts. The sad part is that the Clergy get the good stuff while the laity are tossed the stuff that was mounted in D.C.
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That is a very unfair statement. The Eucharist is the same regardless of the art involved in the liturgy. To have the successor of Peter and the Vicar of Christ preside over the liturgy is in itself a magnificent blessing.
One must also remember, that a liturgical celebration presided by a Pope requires many hands and thousands of house of preparation. You’re not going to get perfection all the time. It’s Murphy’s law. If something can go wrong, it will.
Focus on the Holy Father’s messages instead of the liturgy at DC.
I think that this visit has covered more ecclessioilogy than many other papal visits. Let’s ger stuck the the liturgy, which while it is the apex of Christian prayer, it is still part of the a greater mystery called the Church. What makes liturgy prayer is Word of God, the Eucharist and the life of prayer of those participating in the liturgy.
- Unity of Christians
- Role of the USA in the world
- The respoonsibilities of the UN to human rights
- The connection between Jews and Christians
- The sexual abuse scandal
- The place of people with disabilities in the Church
- The education of seminarians
- Catholic education
- The contributions of Americans to the Catholic Church
- The vitality that religiious life brings to the Church
Liturgy always points the way to charity, not to self-pity or complaining.
JR
That is a very unfair statement. The Eucharist is the same regardless of the art involved in the liturgy. To have the successor of Peter and the Vicar of Christ preside over the liturgy is in itself a magnificent blessing.
Having watched some of the events on CNN, the focus seems to be all on (your) point #5. It’s unfortunate that this entire trip to the US is being seen by the press as papal attempts at damage control.
On the internet, MSNBC, if I took their headlines as gospel, you would think that was all his homily was about.
There is a very large number of deacons in the Metropolitian NY area. There was no priority for tickets at least in our diocese. Most priests, deacons and religous had to enter a lottery for tickets. I also know a lot of deacons who did not enter the lottery because even though they would be allowed two tickets, their wives were not allowed to be given the other ticket. All documents on the deaconate talk of the importance of marriage in the life of the married deacon, but here the wives were not important at all.I was impressed to see such a large group of Deacons. I imagine that they came from many parts of the country. I can’t imagine NY having that many permanent deacons. It was very clear that permanent deacons had priority over transitional deacons when it came to tickets.
JR