Parental Consent and Abortions

[kaymart]

Case #1 Patty is 16 and sexually active, she becomes pregnant. Patty goes to PP has an abortion and her parents never ever have to find out. There is no need for Parental Consent, her 18 year old girlfriend from school signed the papers. So Patty has a “Medical Procedure” (I call it murder-but that’s not the point) goes home like nothing ever happened. CASE#2–Billy age 16, takes a few beers from dad, and does a dangerous trick on his bike to show off to his friends, Billy falls from the bike and breaks his leg. Billy’s friend call 911, but other than emergency treatment,(stop the bleeding) nothing else can be done until parental consent can be given, meanwhile Billy’s parents are informed of his alcohol level. Now the point I’m trying to make, Both Patty and Billy did something immoral, both teenagers would face possible parental punishment for their actions, yet Billy’s family is totally informed of his behavior that led up to him needing a “medical procedure” and now maybe they can deal head on with their son’s problem before it’s to late. Patty’s parents on the other hand, never will know, their daughter can continue with her behaviors because there is no consequenses for her behavior, in fact the people at PP will tell her “She did the right thing” in fact they can tell her that when she comes in again for abortion #2. It doesn’t matter if you are Catholic, or any other Religion or no Religion at all. Parental Consent for any medical procedure has to be. If a girl is that scared then have DYFS (or whatever it’s called in your state) help the girl if she really “fears” her parents reaction. On a side note:I personally think all abortions should be banned, but until then we must fight for parental consent in ALL medical procedure to our children under 18.

 

[astegallrnc]

I agree that a minor should not be allowed to consent to any “medical procedures” or prescription medications. It is just insane that a minor can’t cosent to Tylenol but has the authority to consent to abortions, STD exams and treatment, and family planning services. Of course, state laws vary. I realize this thread is about aboriton, but there is this movement of “reproductive rights” that lumps together abortion, STD tx, etc. A minor can consent to STD exams and treatments in every state now. There are even minor girls having abnormal pap procedures done without parental consent (leep, conization, etc.). I am surprised no parent has ever taken legal action against PP in those states that do not allow minors to consent to family planning.

If a girl is that scared then have DYFS (or whatever it’s called in your state) help the girl if she really “fears” her parents reaction.

I agree. Isn’t there something wrong with people who advocate minors consenting to abortion because of the minor girls so frightened and confused that she can’t go to her parents? Hmmmmm… that doesn’t sound like the informed consent I was taught.

On a side note:I personally think all abortions should be banned, but until then we must fight for parental consent in ALL medical procedure to our children under 18.

Oh, I agree. In the case of minors consenting to abortions, these young girls are victims.

Autumn

 

[Rand_Al_Thor]

kaymart:

Case #1 Patty is 16 and sexually active, she becomes pregnant. Patty goes to PP has an abortion and her parents never ever have to find out. There is no need for Parental Consent, her 18 year old girlfriend from school signed the papers. So Patty has a “Medical Procedure” (I call it murder-but that’s not the point) goes home like nothing ever happened. CASE#2–Billy age 16, takes a few beers from dad, and does a dangerous trick on his bike to show off to his friends, Billy falls from the bike and breaks his leg. Billy’s friend call 911, but other than emergency treatment,(stop the bleeding) nothing else can be done until parental consent can be given, meanwhile Billy’s parents are informed of his alcohol level. Now the point I’m trying to make, Both Patty and Billy did something immoral, both teenagers would face possible parental punishment for their actions, yet Billy’s family is totally informed of his behavior that led up to him needing a “medical procedure” and now maybe they can deal head on with their son’s problem before it’s to late. Patty’s parents on the other hand, never will know, their daughter can continue with her behaviors because there is no consequenses for her behavior, in fact the people at PP will tell her “She did the right thing” in fact they can tell her that when she comes in again for abortion #2. It doesn’t matter if you are Catholic, or any other Religion or no Religion at all. Parental Consent for any medical procedure has to be. If a girl is that scared then have DYFS (or whatever it’s called in your state) help the girl if she really “fears” her parents reaction. On a side note:I personally think all abortions should be banned, but until then we must fight for parental consent in ALL medical procedure to our children under 18.

 

[kaymart]

We must at the very least fight for parental consent in all Medical Procedures. It’s more the a Religious issue it is every Parent’s Right to know. We have to take back our rights as parents and stand united. Write Congressmen and Senators, also on the State and local levels. Many states have already given us at the very least “notification” but until all 50 States make parental constent the law, we have to keep fighting. Today is the 5th anniversery of the Abortion of our dear friends grandchild. They did not find out until the wife found medication bottle from PP in her daughters room (for Pain, along with print-out instructions). They admit they would have been mad at their daughter (for getting pregnant) but had they known they would have work through it as a family.

 

[tcay584]

kaymart:

Case #1 Patty is 16 and sexually active, she becomes pregnant. Patty goes to PP has an abortion and her parents never ever have to find out. There is no need for Parental Consent, her 18 year old girlfriend from school signed the papers. So Patty has a “Medical Procedure” (I call it murder-but that’s not the point) goes home like nothing ever happened. CASE#2–Billy age 16, takes a few beers from dad, and does a dangerous trick on his bike to show off to his friends, Billy falls from the bike and breaks his leg. Billy’s friend call 911, but other than emergency treatment,(stop the bleeding) nothing else can be done until parental consent can be given, meanwhile Billy’s parents are informed of his alcohol level. Now the point I’m trying to make, Both Patty and Billy did something immoral, both teenagers would face possible parental punishment for their actions, yet Billy’s family is totally informed of his behavior that led up to him needing a “medical procedure” and now maybe they can deal head on with their son’s problem before it’s to late. Patty’s parents on the other hand, never will know, their daughter can continue with her behaviors because there is no consequenses for her behavior, in fact the people at PP will tell her “She did the right thing” in fact they can tell her that when she comes in again for abortion #2. It doesn’t matter if you are Catholic, or any other Religion or no Religion at all. Parental Consent for any medical procedure has to be. If a girl is that scared then have DYFS (or whatever it’s called in your state) help the girl if she really “fears” her parents reaction. On a side note:I personally think all abortions should be banned, but until then we must fight for parental consent in ALL medical procedure to our children under 18.

This is tough, because of the ages of the children involved. I’ve seen my nephews caught with their hands in the cookie jar (so to speak) deny they were reaching for a cookie (they’re 2 and 5 BTW). Point is…kids have a really hard time “disappointing” their parents.
The thing is…whether or not her parents know what she has done…she always will. I speak from experience. I hid 2 abortions from my parents , but I could never manage to hide them from myself. That’s one thing my parents could never have taught me…they could never have saved me or prevented me from going through that. I wish they could have, but that would have meant that they “knew” and “understood” what it was to go through that. THANK GOD they never did.
I regret my decision every day of my life…with every glimpse of a pregnant mother and expectant father…with every sighting of a “big family” with kids screaming while going through the grocery, with every baby shower I attend, watching a single mom handle two or three jobs to make ends meet.
I’ve also had the “sibling getting in a DUI situation” that can’t be hidden. In a way, I wish I could never have hidden…it’s such a solitary pain.
Wrong is wrong, but sometimes, no matter how hard a parent tries to guide the way, a child has to find his or her own way. We all feel pain from our bad decisions, but at least I can say that that decision was mine, and I’ve learned (oh lord how I’ve learned) from it. Maybe next time I’ll listen (but probably not).

 

[kaymart]

tcay584:

This is tough, because of the ages of the children involved. I’ve seen my nephews caught with their hands in the cookie jar (so to speak) deny they were reaching for a cookie (they’re 2 and 5 BTW). Point is…kids have a really hard time “disappointing” their parents.
The thing is…whether or not her parents know what she has done…she always will. I speak from experience. I hid 2 abortions from my parents , but I could never manage to hide them from myself. That’s one thing my parents could never have taught me…they could never have saved me or prevented me from going through that. I wish they could have, but that would have meant that they “knew” and “understood” what it was to go through that. THANK GOD they never did.
I regret my decision every day of my life…with every glimpse of a pregnant mother and expectant father…with every sighting of a “big family” with kids screaming while going through the grocery, with every baby shower I attend, watching a single mom handle two or three jobs to make ends meet.
I’ve also had the “sibling getting in a DUI situation” that can’t be hidden. In a way, I wish I could never have hidden…it’s such a solitary pain.
Wrong is wrong, but sometimes, no matter how hard a parent tries to guide the way, a child has to find his or her own way. We all feel pain from our bad decisions, but at least I can say that that decision was mine, and I’ve learned (oh lord how I’ve learned) from it. Maybe next time I’ll listen (but probably not).

I cried reading this, the solitary pain, another sad part of this issue. You must let go, Contact a Project Rachel Chapter in your area, The girl, metioned in above post, who I know, got support here as well as her family. Other then that I personally don’t know that much about it. If someone else knows more, please post, I can’t call my friend tonight but if more info is needed I will call her later in the week. Tonight would be to painful for her.

 

[tcay584]

kaymart:

I cried reading this, the solitary pain, another sad part of this issue. You must let go, Contact a Project Rachel Chapter in your area, The girl, metioned in above post, who I know, got support here as well as her family. Other then that I personally don’t know that much about it. If someone else knows more, please post, I can’t call my friend tonight but if more info is needed I will call her later in the week. Tonight would be to painful for her.

Thanks for the kind words Kay. I know God loves me. I can’t ever make what I’ve done right in the eyes of God, but I can and have asked His forgiveness…and He’s answered in so many ways “yes my child, I forgive you”.
I just want more people to know that “solitary” sin, the ones no one else knows about, hurt almost more. At least when others know, you can rebel against their condemnation…thus lessening your own pain. You can fight, and cry “FOUL!” YOU AREN’T PERFECT EITHER!. But…when only you know…only you know… and I have always been my own worst critic. We all come to our own understanding, our own failings stare us in the eyes in so many ways. But, the Father and His blessed Son are always there to say…“yup, you really screwed up…but you know that, so I won’t berate you”. Go and sin no more. Let’s all just give that a try…

 

[Katie1723]

It may not be fair, nor make sense and I am by no means agreeing with any of it. That being said, when a girl becomes pregnant, she (at least in PA) is considered an “emancipated minor” and parental consent is not necessary. I work in a hospital Birth Center and we see teens all the time, some as young as 14. Mama comes storming in demanding a say in her daughter’s care…sorry, but no go. The law states she is an emancipated minor and entitled to make her own decisions. Sad isn’t it?? What is sadder yet is that we currently have a 12 y/o in our clinic.
~ Kathy ~

 

[kaymart]

Katie1723:

It may not be fair, nor make sense and I am by no means agreeing with any of it. That being said, when a girl becomes pregnant, she (at least in PA) is considered an “emancipated minor” and parental consent is not necessary. I work in a hospital Birth Center and we see teens all the time, some as young as 14. Mama comes storming in demanding a say in her daughter’s care…sorry, but no go. The law states she is an emancipated minor and entitled to make her own decisions. Sad isn’t it?? What is sadder yet is that we currently have a 12 y/o in our clinic.

~ Kathy ~

It is crazy, In 1996, my nearly but not quite 18 year old cut her finger badly at work yet could not sign for her “medical procedure” until my husband got there and signed the papers. Yet if she wanted an abortion whether she was 11, 13, 15 or 17 no problem, can you figure that garbage out?:whacky: I don’t how you do it Kathy, God Bless you, I’d have the urge to not only shake the 12 year old girl, but the mother too. My late sister was a nurse on the OB/GYN floor in a Tucson hospital, she use to tell me these horror stories. When a child that young is pregnant, I totally blame Mama and Papa.