Parents and Spouses: What virtue do you wish you had developed in singlehood?

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Hi! I have a question(s)for the married/divorced folks who may or may not be parents.

For those who are married, looking back to your single years what characteristics do you wish you had prayed about regarding yourself (for example, “I wish I had prayed to be a more patient person”)? Why do you wish you had developed the virtue in your single years before marriage and/or parenthood? How do you think that virtue would have made your current vocation more joyful/fruitful/etc?

Edit: by virtue, I do mean intellectual, moral and theological but also just cultivating ordinary good habits for daily life (wellness, organization, communication skills, etc)
 
For a more serious answer: I certainly lack the virtue of meekness, which, as I understand it, is the good habit of being able to control anger.

Unfortunately, I can be incredibly whiney and lose my temper over all sorts of small things.

Also, I have the vices of effeminacy and sloth.

St. Thomas Aquinas understood both of those vices as being the inability to set aside personal pleasure in order to pursue an arduous good. Effeminacy, however, is an emphasis on a disordered attachment to pleasure, while sloth emphasizes the lack of a desire to pursue the arduous.

(In fact, I think the key to understanding our modern culture is that the vast majority of us suffer from effeminacy.)
 
For a more serious answer: I certainly lack the virtue of meekness, which, as I understand it, is the good habit of being able to control anger.

Unfortunately, I can be incredibly whiney and lose my temper over all sorts of small things.

Also, I have the vices of effeminacy and sloth.

St. Thomas Aquinas understood both of those vices as being the inability to set aside personal pleasure in order to pursue an arduous good. Effeminacy, however, is an emphasis on a disordered attachment to pleasure, while sloth emphasizes the lack of a desire to pursue the arduous.

(In fact, I think the key to understanding our modern culture is that the vast majority of us suffer from effeminacy.)
I’m going to be my slothful self and just say, “Yeah, what this guy said.” 😃

You know how people say they never want to be the kind of parents their parents were? I’ve had a couple moments over the last few weeks in particular that make me go, “Wait a minute…ahhhhhh!!!” Especially regarding anger. I don’t think of myself as an angry person, but I can get way too invested and upset by my kids’ very normal kid stuff, when really, they are very well-behaved. This is something I am working on constantly.
 
Hmmm…well, you can hardly get to be too good at communication, but particularly if you marry.

That doesn’t mean just talking. If you don’t tailor your communication to the temperament, likes, and dislikes of the person you are talking to, work on that. If you don’t consider what is a good time to talk to someone, work on that. If you don’t think about whether or not that great thing you have to say is actually going to do any good, work on that. If you think the opposite sex ought to learn to communicate in the way yours does, work on that. Certainly, the stuff in the book, the Five Love Languages could come in handy in dealing with a spouse and children who may seem as if they came from a different planet, LOL!

If you have any of these four very bad habits, stop it! Those are 1) deflecting criticism with defensive counter-criticism or shifting blame instead of accepting the portion you deserve, 2) making personal attacks of any kind–such as saying “you are so selfish” or “you always act so selfishly” instead of “that was a selfish thing to do”–the habit of 3) stonewalling (going into silent mode) when you’re upset with someone, especially if it is your way of showing displeasure, and 4) expressions of contempt such as name-calling, mockery, eye-rolling, and so on. These are called “The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse” by marriage researcher John Gottman, because they are that indicative of a couple headed for divorce. You can use his books to learn better ways to complain and better ways of dealing with complaints. Read some of his books, so if you start a relationship that is headed for trouble, you can either fix it or run.

The other thing to work on is to let go of all the *trivial *things you won’t do because it doesn’t suit you. Work on doing without the things that you think you have to have. Letting go of having complete control over your own money and your own time is a big deal for a lot of people when they marry!

Of course, I’ve heard many people suggest doing just those appropriate things that are wildly impractical to do with children or a mortgage* before* you marry: hike the Pacific Crest Trail, see Europe while staying in hostels to keep the costs down, have a foreign language immersion experience, build whatever gear you’re going to want for the next 15 or 20 years for whatever your hobby is, spend some extended period of time with your favorite friends from college or high school or with the cousins you enjoyed while growing up, take a road trip as an adult with your dad or mom or your siblings, or whatever. Mostly the things that take a big chunk of time that family and career are not going to let you do.

If you do that, though, do it with the understanding that letting go of what you want is ultimately a good thing for your soul, a radical sort of freedom. Sometimes, though, having had some of those experiences at an appropriate level and season of life makes the work of letting easier to do. If you live your whole life doing nothing but things like that, you may miss the season of building relationships, family, and career.

Oh, and pay down your debt with both hands and live at a standard low enough to habitually save money. I didn’t have that problem, but that has to be the number one thing people wish they did not have to deal with after they marry and have children. You can look at any financial planning book, and they will tell you all about the great advantages of starting a retirement nest egg while you are still in your 20s.

You may not make enough money to both do all those dream things and also become debt-free and content with a standard of living that allows saving. In that case, choose the latter!
 
Hmmm…well, you can hardly get to be too good at communication, but particularly if you marry.

That doesn’t mean just talking. If you don’t tailor your communication to the temperament, likes, and dislikes of the person you are talking to, work on that. If you don’t consider what is a good time to talk to someone, work on that. If you don’t think about whether or not that great thing you have to say is actually going to do any good, work on that. If you think the opposite sex ought to learn to communicate in the way yours does, work on that. Certainly, the stuff in the book, the Five Love Languages could come in handy in dealing with a spouse and children who may seem as if they came from a different planet, LOL!

If you have any of these four very bad habits, stop it! Those are 1) deflecting criticism with defensive counter-criticism or shifting blame instead of accepting the portion you deserve, 2) making personal attacks of any kind–such as saying “you are so selfish” or “you always act so selfishly” instead of “that was a selfish thing to do”–the habit of 3) stonewalling (going into silent mode) when you’re upset with someone, especially if it is your way of showing displeasure, and 4) expressions of contempt such as name-calling, mockery, eye-rolling, and so on. These are called “The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse” by marriage researcher John Gottman, because they are that indicative of a couple headed for divorce. You can use his books to learn better ways to complain and better ways of dealing with complaints. Read some of his books, so if you start a relationship that is headed for trouble, you can either fix it or run.

The other thing to work on is to let go of all the *trivial *things you won’t do because it doesn’t suit you. Work on doing without the things that you think you have to have. Letting go of having complete control over your own money and your own time is a big deal for a lot of people when they marry!

Of course, I’ve heard many people suggest doing just those appropriate things that are wildly impractical to do with children or a mortgage* before* you marry: hike the Pacific Crest Trail, see Europe while staying in hostels to keep the costs down, have a foreign language immersion experience, build whatever gear you’re going to want for the next 15 or 20 years for whatever your hobby is, spend some extended period of time with your favorite friends from college or high school or with the cousins you enjoyed while growing up, take a road trip as an adult with your dad or mom or your siblings, or whatever. Mostly the things that take a big chunk of time that family and career are not going to let you do.

If you do that, though, do it with the understanding that letting go of what you want is ultimately a good thing for your soul, a radical sort of freedom. Sometimes, though, having had some of those experiences at an appropriate level and season of life makes the work of letting easier to do. If you live your whole life doing nothing but things like that, you may miss the season of building relationships, family, and career.

Oh, and pay down your debt with both hands and live at a standard low enough to habitually save money. I didn’t have that problem, but that has to be the number one thing people wish they did not have to deal with after they marry and have children. You can look at any financial planning book, and they will tell you all about the great advantages of starting a retirement nest egg while you are still in your 20s.

You may not make enough money to both do all those dream things and also become debt-free and content with a standard of living that allows saving. In that case, choose the latter!
EasterJoy is spot on! Life is definitely a learning process - and that definitely includes marriage and children as well if they become part of your life. EasterJoy’s points above are extremely beneficial in those regards… and even for those who are single and/or childless. I would also add that the “virtue” of trying to keep Christ at the center of your life can never be understated, in marriage or otherwise. The “What Would Jesus Do” cliche actually makes a lot of sense. Good luck, and God bless you in life’s adventure!
 
Is it not possible to develop these virtues within the vocation of marriage. Isn’t that the whole point of a vocation. It’s not like we stop striving to be virtuous once we have our vocation. The vocation is supposed to help us to become more virtuous.
 
It would have been very helpful to work more on my temper and conflict resolution, but I suspect that’s something that you can’t really get a handle on until actually married (and probably married for some time).

Figuring out personal finance is something that would have been feasible to learn while single, though.
Hi! I have a question(s)for the married/divorced folks who may or may not be parents.

For those who are married, looking back to your single years what characteristics do you wish you had prayed about regarding yourself (for example, “I wish I had prayed to be a more patient person”)? Why do you wish you had developed the virtue in your single years before marriage and/or parenthood? How do you think that virtue would have made your current vocation more joyful/fruitful/etc?

Edit: by virtue, I do mean intellectual, moral and theological but also just cultivating ordinary good habits for daily life (wellness, organization, communication skills, etc)
 
Everyone,
Thank you for all your replies, they have been very helpful! I appreciate your (name removed by moderator)ut and please keep them coming! 🙂
 
I would also add that the “virtue” of trying to keep Christ at the center of your life can never be understated, in marriage or otherwise. The “What Would Jesus Do” cliche actually makes a lot of sense. Good luck, and God bless you in life’s adventure!
Oh, yes! If you want to attract someone who is serious about their faith rather than to fall for someone who is lukewarm to the faith or opposed to it, you need to make deepening your own faith a continual priority. If you do that, you’ll be far more likely to “fall for” someone who is of a like mind.

Or, as the saying goes: Don’t marry for wealth. Hang around rich people, and marry for love. Hang around with people who seek the pearl of great price, and you’re more likely to fall for someone with that mind.
 
I wish I were not as grossed out at body fluids. Who knew I was OCD? I wish I had practiced routine more; especially with household chores. I don’t know how a single person could prepare for a families laundry without the volume to get a feel. Cooking … Again, it’s major hard going from feeding yourself to feeding a growing family. As a single person, microwave dinners were prefered over cooking. Eatting times were also care free and available to do when I could. It changes so drastically when you have to think of others and their needs.

I truely believed that I was care-free and easy going. I truely believed (and complemented on)about how patient I was. Children took these blessings and turned them upside down. Turns out, I’m a control freak; who knew? Turns out hormones need medicine to maintain patience! It also turned out that it takes about three-four years after having a baby for hormones to balance out.

Another major advice I have for the single, is that the future is uncertain. People look for the perfect person for them. This is a falsehood. Both men and women change drastically in appearance and personality over the years. Men tend to change at a slow and constant pace and suddenly wake up wondering how they changed so much. Meanwhile, women tend to change quick and change personalities quick. These can be tied with cycles or a change like pregnancy or menopause. Too many people seem to be focused on the here and now and fail to realize they are promising their future which is uncertain.
 
Wonderful (name removed by moderator)uts! Thank you! If anyone else has any ideas please post a reply.
 
I would have worked on not expecting perfection- and that just ok is fine…

Now I work on this virtue too-in the house, the kids and appearance and things like this. Things have to be a certain way-asthetcially pleasing, or I am anxious until it is.

I did let my 10 year old fix her own hair this morning, even though I was cringing at the crooked pigtails. :). In the past-i would have never let this happen.
 
Married without children here.
Virtues I wish I had prayed more for:
Patience - I find myself losing my temper in times of stress (and we don’t have a child yet)
Wisdom/Empathy - To know more about the Feminine world and emotions
Docility - Connected to both virtues above on how to say stuff when my patience is not balanced.

God Bless,
D.
 
Thanks everyone for your replies. This thread remains open to anyone who has any other ideas. 🙂
 
Married without children here.
Virtues I wish I had prayed more for:
Patience - I find myself losing my temper in times of stress (and we don’t have a child yet)
Wisdom/Empathy - To know more about the Feminine world and emotions
Docility - Connected to both virtues above on how to say stuff when my patience is not balanced.

God Bless,
D.
By the way, as far as wisdom and empathy go (assuming you are male), you may want to go to 5lovelanguages.com/ go to the top banner which says “profiles” take the love language quiz and then take the others. If it seems overwhelming, take the love language quiz first and have your spouse take it too. Then get the book for couples and for men. There’s a book for children and parents too if you do have children later. It may help! 😉 One of the posters to my thread recommended it also to me.
 
Teaching (small stuff … Tooth brushing)
Repetition
Dealing with constant change, but creating routine.
Finding irrelevant things … Go fetch!
Managing endless deadlines: school starts, school ends, activist starts/ends, when to eat, when not to eat, church times, store hours, and finding an ounce of time for yourself.
 
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