PARENTS: Logan (Wolverine) movie is rated R, not PG-13

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Heads up: The new Wolverine movie is rated R for extreme violence and profanity. Fortunately, some theater chains are issuing advisories.

Please don’t bring small kids to this R-rated movie.
 
I always find it strange that the “F-Word” can make a film rated R while pretty much all kids know the “dirty words” already. 🤷
 
I always find it strange that the “F-Word” can make a film rated R while pretty much all kids know the “dirty words” already. 🤷
Very true, being said that at least some kind of public warning or a notice is still fair enough to say that it is still not suitable for all. Example, even though wrong doings(killing, stealing, etc) are condemned, it still does happen.
 
Heads up: The new Wolverine movie is rated R for extreme violence and profanity. Fortunately, some theater chains are issuing advisories.

Please don’t bring small kids to this R-rated movie.
Aren’t movie ratings usually advertised? what is different here?
 
I always find it strange that the “F-Word” can make a film rated R while pretty much all kids know the “dirty words” already. 🤷
It’s… complicated. One use of the “F-word” in a sexual context (such as “I wanna…you so bad”) is an automatic R. In that example, if you deleted “I” “Wanna” “So” “Bad” and made the sentiment into an insult, such as “(expletive) you!”, you can have one and only one use and still retain a PG-13 rating… 🤷

In fact, the movie “Sneakers” (a great film, by the way) had Sidney Poitier drop the “MF” bomb once. Without that expletive, the film would have been rated G (it was said that they put that word in expressly to avoid that rating so the movie would be taken seriously – this was 1994). with the curse… it still only got rated PG. Somehow.
 
Aren’t movie ratings usually advertised? what is different here?
Nobody really pays attention to movie ratings anymore, particularly when a movie’s presumed to be PG or PG-13. The difference here is it’s a comic book movie kids will want to see, but it’s rated R. Take small kids at your own peril.
 
Heads up: The new Wolverine movie is rated R for extreme violence and profanity. Fortunately, some theater chains are issuing advisories.

Please don’t bring small kids to this R-rated movie.
Indeed, the reviews I’ve read indicate that the violence is quite brutal, and hard-R level; far beyond the typical “comic book violence” of the other X-Men films.
 
Aren’t movie ratings usually advertised? what is different here?
To amplify what RandomUser is saying, this is a comic-book movie, and Wolverine is heavily marketed to kids. A parent may just see Wolverine and take their 6-year-old to the movies expecting “Snikt! Bub! Slash!” and not “Schlunk! (Profanity)! Gore!”

Then again, I’m a fan of the Claremont-era X-Men, but reading them now, I wonder what sane parent would have let their 6-year-old read them, with all the stuff Chris got past the radar…😃
 
The reviews also indicate that *Logan *is a departure from the CGI’d action-fests that the main series X-Men films have been; it’s more like a gritty Western.
 
To amplify what RandomUser is saying, this is a comic-book movie, and Wolverine is heavily marketed to kids. A parent may just see Wolverine and take their 6-year-old to the movies expecting “Snikt! Bub! Slash!” and not “Schlunk! (Profanity)! Gore!”

Then again, I’m a fan of the Claremont-era X-Men, but reading them now, I wonder what sane parent would have let their 6-year-old read them, with all the stuff Chris got past the radar…😃
I was more about 12 and reading with great attention and interest the Claremont-era X-Men, but what kind of things were there that you found questionable? (Just asking, I can’t remember the content in detail.) I remember Wolverine was always characterized as a violent, unpredictable person, almost an anti-hero.
 
Heads up: The new Wolverine movie is rated R for extreme violence and profanity. Fortunately, some theater chains are issuing advisories.

Please don’t bring small kids to this R-rated movie.
“strong brutal violence and language throughout, and for brief nudity.”
 
I’ve seen the preview. Definitely not for kids. Definitely not. And I would caution adults as well. The reason is simple: if something is wrong when you were a kid, it stays wrong into adulthood. As a fan of the comic book medium, and as it’s translated into movies, I’m disappointed about both.

Thanks for posting the heads up. I know there are parents who care.

Ed
 
I think the film is completely unsuitable for children with very strong language and violence.

In the UK no-one under 15 can see it and the censor insight information is:

LOGAN is a fantasy action drama sequel in which the Marvel Comics Wolverine character emerges from his seclusion with the arrival of a new young mutant.

Violence
There are scenes of strong bloody violence which include shootings and the use of a harpoon. Some of the violence features Wolverine and another mutant using blades that are part of their physiologies to slash and stab enemies. The sequences of violence are rapidly-edited, with a focus on action. The violence is frequently bloody and there is occasional sight of injury detail in its aftermath.

Language
There is strong language (‘f**’, ‘motherf**’), as well as milder terms including ‘s**’, ‘bull***’, ‘dick’, ‘dick***’, ‘a**’ and ‘a**hole’.

There is also brief female breast nudity.
 
I always find it strange that the “F-Word” can make a film rated R while pretty much all kids know the “dirty words” already. 🤷
Like when The King’s Speech got an R rating for, in my opinion, perfectly valid use of swearing in a movie (part of speech therapy for those who haven’t seen the movie).
 
The reviews also indicate that *Logan *is a departure from the CGI’d action-fests that the main series X-Men films have been; it’s more like a gritty Western.
If this is true, then that’s a good thing! I’ve heard that Logan has been getting really great reviews.
 
I’ve seen the preview. Definitely not for kids. Definitely not. And I would caution adults as well. **The reason is simple: if something is wrong when you were a kid, it stays wrong into adulthood. **

Ed
I’ve seen this mentality a lot in certain circles and frankly, I disagree. This ignores the fact that children and adults consume media differently. Adults can handle certain nuances that children can’t. Children are just forming their view of the world, and they are impressionable. I wouldn’t show “Braveheart” to a five year old, but that doesn’t mean it’s wrong for me to watch it.

The world is messy, and there’s nothing wrong with art reflecting that. Do children need to be exposed to that messiness before they are ready? No. But it’s certainly not a sin for an adult to decide they want to watch something that children in general shouldn’t.
 
I’ve seen this mentality a lot in certain circles and frankly, I disagree. This ignores the fact that children and adults consume media differently. Adults can handle certain nuances that children can’t. Children are just forming their view of the world, and they are impressionable. I wouldn’t show “Braveheart” to a five year old, but that doesn’t mean it’s wrong for me to watch it.

The world is messy, and there’s nothing wrong with art reflecting that. Do children need to be exposed to that messiness before they are ready? No. But it’s certainly not a sin for an adult to decide they want to watch something that children in general shouldn’t.
As someone who works in the media and who has to understand the impact of art on people from the standpoint of being an artist, writer, storyteller and assistant art director, I have to know what impact any work has on the public. I am responsible. I have to act responsibly. I will be called to give an account for all I did. God knows I’m not perfect - no one is, but the degeneration I’m seeing in movies is consistent, and I’ve been watching it gradually degrade over the years and decades.

I’ve seen Braveheart, but my dad was a war veteran and I had people close to me who were war veterans. The one thing I realized as a boy and later, as I studied military history, is no one talks about their experiences or what they saw, except privately, and rarely in public, and rarely in graphic terms. I watched movies where a guy getting shot was him falling over, maybe a little blood or crying out in pain. Then those “artists” out there decided that wasn’t enough. I had to see limbs flying off, graphic injury and people being literally blown to bits. Fun? No.

I heard a war veteran and great artist and storyteller talk about his work. He was there in World War II. He made it a point in one interview to say that the violence he drew was never meant to portray the violence he saw.

Art is no excuse. The common good is always the first priority. Villains are getting crazier, the violence is too graphic and unnecessary, and I won’t even venture to go into other areas here. Let’s just say that a lot of what I see is gratuitous.

How adults in general came to believe that watching limbs hacked off with blood everywhere is “entertainment” is a whole story unto itself.

Ed
 
“The Alamo Drafthouse chain of theaters is known for its ability to make movie going an experience again, with things like custom cocktails, themed events, retro releases, and an overall pleasant time at the movies. But they’re also socially conscious and aware, and they realize that a lot of kids out there see Wolverine coming back to the big screen and tell their parents they want to go - and a lot of parents are pretty clueless when it comes to entertainment. Enter the simple, to-the-point PSA Drafthouse is putting out on their social media to remind parents - your kids will probably be disturbed by this movie.”
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“Attention Parents: Important Info About Logan,” the PSA reads. “Please note that Logan isn’t your typical superhero movie. This film is RATED R for extreme and brutal violence. Given the disturbing content, we do NOT recommend that children see Logan.”
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comicbook.com/marvel/2017/02/28/wolverine-3-alamo-drafthouse-reminds-parents-logan-is-not-for-kids/
 
Thanks. Rotten Tomatoes. Avoid that site. Go to the IMDB - Internet Movie Data Base. It’s really sad to see toys for kids turn into this. I certainly hope parents won’t be buying Logan related toys for their kids. The trailer alone tells me all I need to know.

Ed
 
Imo, its strange in such a liberal minded society that exists today, Hollywood and most people in general, seem to be totally OK with some agency or group ‘rating’ movies and tvs, based on language, sexuality, violence, etc.

Seems like there would be calls to end this type of thing in the times we live in.

Heck i rememeber all the outrage when Tipper Gore tried the same thing with rating music CDs back in the late 80s and 90s, people did not like some agency telling them what was deemed to be 'moral (G rated) and immoral (R) in anyway shape or form.
 
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