Parents vs. Me vs. Relationship

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This is my first time posting in a forum, so I apologize if I commit any forum faux pas! One of which is sure to be the length of this post. This is another occurrence of the ubiquitous “parents don’t approve of relationship” situation where it has created significant tensions within my family between my parents and I and my sisters.

Firstly, my family has always been very tight-knit. I confided very closely in my parents growing up, especially my mother, about my hopes, dreams, crushes, etc. I didn’t really have any close friends that shared my Catholic world-view until late college, so my relationship with my mother also essentially filled the role of BFF as I attended college close to home. I was your typical goody-two shoes, straight-A’s kid who never really felt an inclination to rebel. My parents were somewhat strict, but I was OK with that. I have not lived at home since my sophomore in college (now 2 yrs post-grad) and am currently self-supporting with no more financial assistance from parents.

My relationship came into the picture the summer before my last year of college. By this point, I’d matured in self-acceptance and felt ready to enter into a relationship whenever God was ready for me to. I met my boyfriend on a Catholic singles site that we had respectively joined without seriously intending to find relationships on the site, but we began talking and messaging and were pleasantly surprised and excited to find out how much we had in common, besides the obvious… our Catholic faith. Prior to beginning this relationship, I had dated several guys and learned much from friendships with other guys to understand what I desired in a future spouse. Growing up, my parents had taken me to many talks and given my sisters and I many books on Christian dating, chastity, etc, from which I gained an understanding of appropriate physical boundaries and behavior in a relationship. My parents have also been involved in marriage prep counseling at their parish, from which they’ve shared what they’ve learned about things to consider in a future spouse.

My boyfriend and I have now been dating for almost 3 years. The length is due to both this difficult situation and his being back in school for an additional degree. I feel that the strengths in our relationship are our shared faith & values, mutual respect, ability to honestly communicate with one another, common goals, and unselfishness. The flaws in our relationship that we are both aware of and accept are our contrasts: my impatience, his patience… my preference for structure, his spontanaeity. We’ve been meeting with my Deacon and talking with him about our relationship and discussing a FOCCUS inventory prior to entering into an engagement and he’s been very supportive and helpful.

Unfortunately, my family does not have a positive view of my relationship. My boyfriend’s somewhat introverted personality does not fit perfectly into my family dynamic and they have become hypercritical and made negative assumptions about every aspect of his life and behavior. My parents are also critical of the fact that we met online and that it didn’t take their preferred course of a friendship slowly developing into a relationship, thus the very origin of our relationship does not merit approval. They consider him to be a pathological liar because he occasionally mixes up people in stories, they consider him to be hopelessly rude because of his failed attempts to joke and get along with my family members… they also don’t think that he’s Catholic enough. He was confirmed when he was in 2nd grade and received no RE after that, but has always attended Mass every Sunday and participated in campus ministries while in school. He acknowledges his need for more catechesis but is currently more limited in his ability to seek it out due to mountains of intense engineering homework… they think that I should see that as unacceptable. I could see reason to disapprove of the disparity if we had fundamental disagreements about Church teachings or if he were not open to learning more when opportunities arise, but that is not the case.

My parents would bring up their concerns to me and dismiss any of my attempts to respond by clarifying his intent on his behalf (they’d never say these things to his face) as whitewashing a hopelessly flawed person. This disregard for my viewpoints has been very upsetting for me over the years; I’ve shared these opinions with my boyfriend… which my parents also take issue with. My boyfriend is disappointed with my family’s persistent dislike of him, but remains in the relationship because he truly cares for me and is willing to make any effort to help us reconcile. He would never intentionally desire to offend the family of his girlfriend… but that’s not reason enough for my parents to forgive and try to get to know him better.

Several arguments between my parents and I in the past few months have escalated to the point of tears. I finally told them that I wanted to discuss our issues in a mediated environment where I didn’t feel the need to be constantly on the defense. We eventually met with their pastor after meeting with him individually, but the meeting together bore little fruit as I think they came into the discussion assuming that their pastor would just spend the entire time telling me that my parents were right about everything and that I’m a horrible, disrespectful daughter for daring to disagree with them about things and continue in a relationship that they don’t like… which was not the case. They are not open to meeting again, since it was initially my idea.

I’ll be meeting again with just my parents on Saturday afternoon, so if I could ask you all to pray for me to keep my anger in check and prepare my thoughts thoroughly and with charity, that would be much appreciated. Any advice is more than welcome and God bless!
 
You are a competent adult worthy of respect. Even by your parents. Do not forget that.
 
Betabeta, the original poster, sounds like a nice and a sincere girl. That said, she is also still quite young and not yet very mature. As yet, she has not grown up to be an independent adult.
I think she is on her way, but not there yet.

Individuation is the development of the self, in particular the separation from parents and transition from adolescence to adulthood.

Until Betabeta individuates, and grows beyond dependence on her parents to do her thinking for her, she is not ready for a serious relationship.

Each of us matures at our own pace, some quickly and others only with the considerable passage of time. We act at our peril, to seek adult relationships before we are ready.

It might be good counsel for Betabeta to retreat from the current relationship, so that she may further mature, and also to allow her boyfriend the opportunity to complete his education, without distraction by all this drama.

Growing up is not easy. Achieving independence is a difficult task. There is no pressing reason to rush things here.

I advise Betabeta to take her time, and individuate from her parents, before she seeks an adult relationship.
 
Betabeta, the original poster, sounds like a nice and a sincere girl. That said, she is also still quite young and not yet very mature. As yet, she has not grown up to be an independent adult.
I think she is on her way, but not there yet.

Individuation is the development of the self, in particular the separation from parents and transition from adolescence to adulthood.

Until Betabeta individuates, and grows beyond dependence on her parents to do her thinking for her, she is not ready for a serious relationship.

Each of us matures at our own pace, some quickly and others only with the considerable passage of time. We act at our peril, to seek adult relationships before we are ready.

It might be good counsel for Betabeta to retreat from the current relationship, so that she may further mature, and also to allow her boyfriend the opportunity to complete his education, without distraction by all this drama.

Growing up is not easy. Achieving independence is a difficult task. There is no pressing reason to rush things here.

I advise Betabeta to take her time, and individuate from her parents, before she seeks an adult relationship.
I respectfully disagree. This young lady is an adult, finished college and supports herself. There is nothing immature about being concerned with how your family is treating your future spouse. I have seen enough threads on here about in-laws and family causing issues to know that she is smart to try to work this out now.
Betabeta, pray on this. Take a moment to consider each of your families “concerns” seriously and ask yourself, is there any truth to any of this? If your answer is no, then you are going to have to just make it clear to them that while you don’t wish for there to be any hard feelings, you are an adult, and only you can decide who you marry.
 
Firstly, my family has always been very tight-knit. I confided very closely in my parents growing up, especially my mother, about my hopes, dreams, crushes, etc. I didn’t really have any close friends that shared my Catholic world-view until late college, so my relationship with my mother also essentially filled the role of BFF as I attended college close to home. I was your typical goody-two shoes, straight-A’s kid who never really felt an inclination to rebel. My parents were somewhat strict, but I was OK with that. I have not lived at home since my sophomore in college (now 2 yrs post-grad) and am currently self-supporting with no more financial assistance from parents.

My relationship came into the picture the summer before my last year of college. By this point, I’d matured in self-acceptance and felt ready to enter into a relationship whenever God was ready for me to. I met my boyfriend on a Catholic singles site that we had respectively joined without seriously intending to find relationships on the site, but we began talking and messaging and were pleasantly surprised and excited to find out how much we had in common, besides the obvious… our Catholic faith. Prior to beginning this relationship, I had dated several guys and learned much from friendships with other guys to understand what I desired in a future spouse. Growing up, my parents had taken me to many talks and given my sisters and I many books on Christian dating, chastity, etc, from which I gained an understanding of appropriate physical boundaries and behavior in a relationship. My parents have also been involved in marriage prep counseling at their parish, from which they’ve shared what they’ve learned about things to consider in a future spouse.

My boyfriend and I have now been dating for almost 3 years. The length is due to both this difficult situation and his being back in school for an additional degree. I feel that the strengths in our relationship are our shared faith & values, mutual respect, ability to honestly communicate with one another, common goals, and unselfishness. The flaws in our relationship that we are both aware of and accept are our contrasts: my impatience, his patience… my preference for structure, his spontanaeity. We’ve been meeting with my Deacon and talking with him about our relationship and discussing a FOCCUS inventory prior to entering into an engagement and he’s been very supportive and helpful.

Unfortunately, my family does not have a positive view of my relationship. My boyfriend’s somewhat introverted personality does not fit perfectly into my family dynamic and they have become hypercritical and made negative assumptions about every aspect of his life and behavior. My parents are also critical of the fact that we met online and that it didn’t take their preferred course of a friendship slowly developing into a relationship, thus the very origin of our relationship does not merit approval. They consider him to be a pathological liar because he occasionally mixes up people in stories, they consider him to be hopelessly rude because of his failed attempts to joke and get along with my family members… they also don’t think that he’s Catholic enough. He was confirmed when he was in 2nd grade and received no RE after that, but has always attended Mass every Sunday and participated in campus ministries while in school. He acknowledges his need for more catechesis but is currently more limited in his ability to seek it out due to mountains of intense engineering homework… they think that I should see that as unacceptable. I could see reason to disapprove of the disparity if we had fundamental disagreements about Church teachings or if he were not open to learning more when opportunities arise, but that is not the case.

My parents would bring up their concerns to me and dismiss any of my attempts to respond by clarifying his intent on his behalf (they’d never say these things to his face) as whitewashing a hopelessly flawed person. This disregard for my viewpoints has been very upsetting for me over the years; I’ve shared these opinions with my boyfriend… which my parents also take issue with. My boyfriend is disappointed with my family’s persistent dislike of him, but remains in the relationship because he truly cares for me and is willing to make any effort to help us reconcile. He would never intentionally desire to offend the family of his girlfriend… but that’s not reason enough for my parents to forgive and try to get to know him better.

Several arguments between my parents and I in the past few months have escalated to the point of tears. I finally told them that I wanted to discuss our issues in a mediated environment where I didn’t feel the need to be constantly on the defense. We eventually met with their pastor after meeting with him individually, but the meeting together bore little fruit as I think they came into the discussion assuming that their pastor would just spend the entire time telling me that my parents were right about everything and that I’m a horrible, disrespectful daughter for daring to disagree with them about things and continue in a relationship that they don’t like… which was not the case. They are not open to meeting again, since it was initially my idea.

I’ll be meeting again with just my parents on Saturday afternoon, so if I could ask you all to pray for me to keep my anger in check and prepare my thoughts thoroughly and with charity, that would be much appreciated. Any advice is more than welcome and God bless!
Wow, I wish I knew how to help you! I haven’t been in a situation like this before… but I am praying for you. You are an adult now, making adult decisions. It seems to me that it is time for your parents to respect that and to let you finish growing up! =]
 
Betabeta, the original poster, sounds like a nice and a sincere girl. That said, she is also still quite young and not yet very mature. As yet, she has not grown up to be an independent adult.
I think she is on her way, but not there yet.

Individuation is the development of the self, in particular the separation from parents and transition from adolescence to adulthood.

Until Betabeta individuates, and grows beyond dependence on her parents to do her thinking for her, she is not ready for a serious relationship.

Each of us matures at our own pace, some quickly and others only with the considerable passage of time. We act at our peril, to seek adult relationships before we are ready.

It might be good counsel for Betabeta to retreat from the current relationship, so that she may further mature, and also to allow her boyfriend the opportunity to complete his education, without distraction by all this drama.

Growing up is not easy. Achieving independence is a difficult task. There is no pressing reason to rush things here.

I advise Betabeta to take her time, and individuate from her parents, before she seeks an adult relationship.
Respectfully, why are you talking about her like she won’t be reading the thread again? I also disagree with you. I think how she is handling things is mature. She is upset, as anyone would be, with the constant disapproval of her boyfriend from her parents. There’s no reason for her to break up with the boyfriend because she’s having trouble from her parents. She is looking for some support here, not judgment.

To the original poster, keep praying on this and for your parents. Your parents are treating your boyfriend unfairly. I’m sure they think they know what’s best for you, as all parents like to think from time to time, but instead they should try to be more open to your present relationship, not what they would ideally like it to be. Not only that, but thousands of people meet online. It’s very common anymore and not something to be so down on. I’ll pray for you. I know it is tough not having that approval. But do what’s right for you in this situation and trust in God’s plan. Live the life God has called for you.
 
I respectfully disagree. This young lady is an adult, finished college and supports herself. There is nothing immature about being concerned with how your family is treating your future spouse. I have seen enough threads on here about in-laws and family causing issues to know that she is smart to try to work this out now.
Betabeta, pray on this. Take a moment to consider each of your families “concerns” seriously and ask yourself, is there any truth to any of this? If your answer is no, then you are going to have to just make it clear to them that while you don’t wish for there to be any hard feelings, you are an adult, and only you can decide who you marry.
Thank you both for your replies! Both my boyfriend and I are self-supporting and live in different areas of the city; my boyfriend is in school and working part-time and I’m working full time. I have thought and prayed over their concerns many times and discussed them thoroughly with my boyfriend. My parents express them in many ways… from picking apart anything he said or did in a visit with to making very broad assumptions about his character based on limited acquaintance with him. They bottle up all this anger at him and the flaws that they perceive… I honestly think that they won’t be able to get past or understand them unless they actually address him directly about their concerns or assumptions. My boyfriend is more than open to that kind of discussion, but my parents don’t want to. It saddens me that there’s so much unforgiveness in this situation and an unwillingness to seek the truth. Ironically, my parents blame me for them not knowing my boyfriend well enough to truly understand his character because we don’t visit or initiate enough social outings with them. At the same time, how can we do so if we are never openly invited, welcomed or made to feel comfortable with doing so? I know that they think they’re doing this out of love, but it’s crossed the line of reason into angry obsession in wanting me to do everything “their way.”
 
Respectfully, why are you talking about her like she won’t be reading the thread again? I also disagree with you. I think how she is handling things is mature. She is upset, as anyone would be, with the constant disapproval of her boyfriend from her parents. There’s no reason for her to break up with the boyfriend because she’s having trouble from her parents. She is looking for some support here, not judgment.

To the original poster, keep praying on this and for your parents. Your parents are treating your boyfriend unfairly. I’m sure they think they know what’s best for you, as all parents like to think from time to time, but instead they should try to be more open to your present relationship, not what they would ideally like it to be. Not only that, but thousands of people meet online. It’s very common anymore and not something to be so down on. I’ll pray for you. I know it is tough not having that approval. But do what’s right for you in this situation and trust in God’s plan. Live the life God has called for you.
Thanks, Alexa! My parents seem to be wringing their hands over the fact that they are currently one of those couples who aren’t overjoyed at the person that their daughter is considering marrying. Although they’ve been doing the marriage counseling prep at their parish for several years, I almost think that it’s made them paranoid about and hypercritical of their daughter’s relationships rather than understanding and gently guiding. They’ve always been so proud of my sisters and I and what we’ve done with our lives, but the moment I’m not doing something perfectly according to them, I lose favor. I’ve had disagreements with them before being in a relationship but never thought much of conceding their point every time because the issues of contention weren’t something near and dear to my heart. Now that I’m in a relationship with someone that I love and understand… it’s painful to come to grips with my family, whom I also love, having such a distorted view of that person. It’s revealed a very upsetting family dynamic that doesn’t really create any friction until you’re somewhat against the grain.
 
Wow, I wish I knew how to help you! I haven’t been in a situation like this before… but I am praying for you. You are an adult now, making adult decisions. It seems to me that it is time for your parents to respect that and to let you finish growing up! =]
Thank you for your prayers and support! I love my family, I just wish they’d learn to be more open and compassionate…
 
You are a competent adult worthy of respect. Even by your parents. Do not forget that.
I feel a bit selfish and guilty for seeking out affirmation, prayers and advice like this… but I sometimes feel like I’m crazy and alone in feeling how I do about the situation because it’s been going in circles for so long. Thank you much!
 
I’ll pray for you. I just want to tell you a story about my older sister and her husband. They’ve been married for about 30 years now. (I’m 45 just to give you an indication of my age). But for along time my parents didn’t like him. We all thought he was arrogant and abrupt at times-but then again so is my sister! He has been with my sister through thick & thin…there is no other woman for him. We are all amazed that they are still married. And what a guy he turned out to be-we all have so much affection, love and respect for him. A few years ago my sister was on a diet and my brother in law was talking to me about her and her diet and he said I don’t care how much she weighs-I love her, no matter what.

I just would like to say something else-your a grown woman you need to find someone you can live with and grow old with. Not someone your parents can grow old with. Three years is a long time invested and today good men are hard to find. If you have a special one consider yourself blessed-there are way too many frogs. Believe me I know :rolleyes:
 
Betabeta, the original poster, sounds like a nice and a sincere girl. That said, she is also still quite young and not yet very mature. As yet, she has not grown up to be an independent adult.
I think she is on her way, but not there yet.

Individuation is the development of the self, in particular the separation from parents and transition from adolescence to adulthood.

Until Betabeta individuates, and grows beyond dependence on her parents to do her thinking for her, she is not ready for a serious relationship.

Each of us matures at our own pace, some quickly and others only with the considerable passage of time. We act at our peril, to seek adult relationships before we are ready.

It might be good counsel for Betabeta to retreat from the current relationship, so that she may further mature, and also to allow her boyfriend the opportunity to complete his education, without distraction by all this drama.

Growing up is not easy. Achieving independence is a difficult task. There is no pressing reason to rush things here.

I advise Betabeta to take her time, and individuate from her parents, before she seeks an adult relationship.
With all due respect, you sound like my parents 😉 Just kidding! Supporting myself and living on my own isn’t the easiest, but I’m managing it just fine. I’ve achieved physical independence from my family, but it is true that this situation is making autonomy more of a challenge. In retrospect, this may have not been so difficult if I had chosen to attend college, live and work out of state as many of my friends from high school opted for, but I’ve rooted myself down where I am and plan on remaining.

I haven’t really been rushing things in my relationship, as we’ve been going out for almost three years and only started meeting with my deacon in the past month or so. We’ve managed to balance things out pretty well and respect one another’s time, despite his demanding schedule.

I do agree that it’s been very difficult for me to put my boyfriend through this as well, but I respect his decision to choose to remain in this relationship despite these challenges. I do not want to leave a good relationship, simply because my parents think I should. He wants to wait on the next step (i.e. engagement) until my parents and I have reconciled our differences successfully and grown into a more adult relationship. The situation has made it impossible for him and my family to truly get to know each other and I think that my family keeps him at an arm’s length because they fear losing their credibility if their initial judgments are untrue.
 
Betabeta,

From my reading of your post I would ask you the following question: Are you still your parents little girl or do you intend to be this man’s future wife?
Firstly, my family has always been very tight-knit. I confided very closely in my parents growing up, especially my mother, about my hopes, dreams, crushes, etc. I didn’t really have any close friends that shared my Catholic world-view until late college, so my relationship with my mother also essentially filled the role of BFF as I attended college close to home.
 
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Betabeta,

From my reading of your post I would ask you the following question: Are you still your parents little girl or do you intend to be this man’s future wife?

It is common for parents to worry about their children or be scared when their child is on the verge of no longer being their child. Not all parents handle this in excellent fashion. They are fallible as we all are.

Is he worth defending? If so tell the person being critical that you love them, but what they have said is not acceptable. I had to have one of these talks with my older brother one time.

You mentioned they think he is a liar because he mixes up people in stories. Does he lie or does he practice the virtue of honesty? You never stated what he does. Along the same line are his jokes rude or are they well intentioned gaffs? Are there any memorable examples you can share on the message board?

On this one I seriously have to disagree with him. Do the two of you ever watch a movie? The two of you could once per week watch a video on the Catholic faith. I did this last year and over the course of watching 52 videos I learned a lot. This is one way. Another method would be to read one chapter of the Bible each morning. So it is quite easily done.

Here I read this as their attempt to be considerate of the young man’s feelings. They are letting you know their concerns without being rude to the young man. It would be helpful if you gave an example of this.

Has the young man talked to your father? Has he made it clear his intentions towards you? Also, if he has offended family members (intentional or not) has he offered an apology?
Apologies in advance, I need to figure out that multi-quote trick for replies! I just edited the quote down to what I’m replying to…

I do intend to be this man’s future wife and need to work on overcoming my dependency on parental approval of everything as a child would. To my parents, my entering into a relationship at 21 signalled an abrupt cut-off from their “little girl.” They didn’t trust that I could do just fine on my own and have grown more and more resentful of me not being around all the time or talking to them all the time like I used to (and my sisters still do, thus I am the black sheep). I did at first during the relationship, but my parents’ guidance spiraled into uncharitable, constant criticism and I sought their company less and less. I have told them that I find their criticisms unreasonable and offensive, but my parents persisted in their course and did not regard my reasoning.

The instance that led to my boyfriend being deemed a pathological liar was a story about several of his friends from college and he had mixed up two couples’ methods of meeting… one had met at school and one had met online and both subsequently married. My mom had recalled a previous conversation where a couple mentioned was the other way around and confronted me about it later. This occurred over a year and a half ago and my parents still bring it up. He is an honest person and it was a simple, one-time mix-up. The attempts at joking with my siblings involved a well-intentioned “youngin” (he’s 6 years older than my next youngest sister) that was taken offensively and I was not informed of that fact until my mom told me several weeks later. He interacts more jokingly with his siblings (younger and older sister) and figured he could safely try to joke with my sisters in a similar manner since my sisters and I always teasingly call each other names… lesson learned? Don’t attempt to comfortably joke with someone unless they joke with you first.

As far as his pursuit of his faith, he has several books like Imitation of Christ, Why be Catholic and audio CDs by Jeff Cavins that he reads/listens to on his own… usually before bed! He’s also gone with me to talks like Theology of the Body and Theology on Tap. We sometimes say the rosary together, but are trying to find something that we can discuss more deeply. I like the idea of watching a Catholic movie every week! Are there any series or films that you suggest? His mom works at a church with a pretty substantial library, so he might be able to borrow something from there.

I can understand them choosing to share their concerns with only me, but feel that in the way it’s continued… that the misunderstanding only grows deeper and they cling onto their negative opinions of him because nothing that I’ve said makes any difference to them. Since our relationship has gone on this long, I think that it would be appropriate at this point to meet together to openly discuss and resolve those issues, but my parents have deemed it inappropriate since we aren’t engaged. The catch-22! How will we ever feel truly comfortable entering into an engagement with so much unforgiveness and hostility present?

My boyfriend has attempted to set up a golf outing or lunch with my dad, but they played phone tag for about a month and my dad didn’t return his last call. My parents’ attitude towards this is that I put him up to it and that the attempt was too little, not enough and too late.

Thank you for sharing Maximilian Kolbe’s experience… it’s been helpful to put my situation into perspective. I’ve also been meditating on Christ dying for and forgiving all our sins… and I struggle with my selfishness in holding onto being frustrated and angry and upset with my parents. There is a lot of unforgiveness on both sides… I’m so afraid of just letting go of everything in fear that they will be unable to do the same. My family is great at holding grudges, myself included! What I’m going through is nothing compared to what Christ, Kolbe and countless martyrs endured out of love for God and others. I think I’ll be spending several hours in adoration before my meeting! 🙂

God bless!
 
2217 As long as a child lives at home with his parents, the child should obey his parents in all that they ask of him when it is for his good or that of the family. "Children, obey your parents in everything, for this pleases the Lord."22 Children should also obey the reasonable directions of their teachers and all to whom their parents have entrusted them. But if a child is convinced in conscience that it would be morally wrong to obey a particular order, he must not do so.
As they grow up, children should continue to respect their parents. They should anticipate their wishes, willingly seek their advice, and accept their just admonitions. Obedience toward parents ceases with the emancipation of the children; not so respect, which is always owed to them. This respect has its roots in the fear of God, one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit.
2230 When they become adults, children have the right and duty to choose their profession and state of life. They should assume their new responsibilities within a trusting relationship with their parents, willingly asking and receiving their advice and counsel. **Parents should be careful not to exert pressure on their children either in the choice of a profession or in that of a spouse. **This necessary restraint does not prevent them - quite the contrary from giving their children judicious advice, particularly when they are planning to start a family.
 
Betabeta,
Apologies in advance, I need to figure out that multi-quote trick for replies! I just edited the quote down to what I’m replying to…
It took me a long time to figure out the whole multi-quoting thing. What I do is highlight the text I want, then click on the quote balloon (near the upper right corner of the text window), and then move the whole thing to a completely separate document where I can work on it before returning it to the Catholic Answers text window. Just like I am doing now. There might be other ways. This works for me.

First, thanks for taking time to flesh out the thoughts and ideas of your first post.
They didn’t trust that I could do just fine on my own and have grown more and more resentful of me not being around all the time or talking to them all the time like I used to (and my sisters still do, thus I am the black sheep).
Are you the oldest child? Reassure them patiently and calmly. Again do not forget to let them know that you love them. They are your parents, but remember they are also two of God’s creatures with all their doubts and fears. Did they do a good job of raising you and your sisters? Yes? Then let them know that you appreciate their efforts. I have a sister-in-law whom behaves in a similar fashion to what you describe your parents doing (on different topics though). Time by itself has helped her calm down as she is more secure in her relationship with my brother.
My mom had recalled a previous conversation where a couple mentioned was the other way around and confronted me about it later.
So, mom is looking out for her baby, but perhaps is a bit zealous in her efforts and focusing in too narrow of a fashion.
He interacts more jokingly with his siblings (younger and older sister) and figured he could safely try to joke with my sisters in a similar manner since my sisters and I always teasingly call each other names…
I had to learn to modify my joking style with my current group of friends as they were raised in different manner than I was. Also, as a coach of 16 years I cannot joke the same way with my players as I might with my siblings. Why, because my role is different and what I say will be taken in a more serious manner because I am “The Coach”. After I figured it out I learned to pick and choose my spots for humor.
As far as his pursuit of his faith, he has several books like Imitation of Christ, Why be Catholic and audio CDs by Jeff Cavins that he reads/listens to on his own… usually before bed! He’s also gone with me to talks like Theology of the Body and Theology on Tap. We sometimes say the rosary together,
A good list of activities – have you casually mentioned these things when you chat with your mom? Not over emphasizing them, but a mere casual mention in passing. If your mom is attune to things she will take note of your activities.

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I like the idea of watching a Catholic movie every week! Are there any series or films that you suggest?
Films/videos:

Ocean of Mercy – it tells about St. Kolbe, St. Faustina and Pope John Paul II.
Fourteen Flowers of Pardon – documentary on St. Maria Goretti.
A Family Retreat with Archbishop Fulton Sheen – covers a variety of topics.
Maximilian: Saint of Auschwitz – a one man play about St. Kolbe from Saint Luke
Productions: stlukeproductions.com/
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 Those are a few.  I would have to dig out my list.  Do you have a Catholic store somewhere nearby?  That is where I rented most of the videos/dvds that I watched.
but my parents have deemed it inappropriate since we aren’t engaged.
Is this tacit approval to get engaged?? :eek: 😉 (See here I am picking and choosing my spots for humor.)
My boyfriend has attempted to set up a golf outing or lunch with my dad, but they played phone tag for about a month and my dad didn’t return his last call. My parents’ attitude towards this is that I put him up to it and that the attempt was too little, not enough and too late.
Good for your young man. Maybe once a month he could offer to do something with your dad (being fully prepared that the answer will be ‘No’) as a simple gesture. Maybe one time a surprise ‘yes’ will be forthcoming. Ask without investing any emotion or hope when asking the questions. He loses nothing by offering.

Yes, St. Kolbe’s live puts life into perspective. His life was much more than his time at Auschwitz. The trading places with the condemned man does offer a crystal clear example of living the gospel and loving God above all else.

Again thanks for taking time to fill in the blanks and answer some questions.

God bless
 
hugs and prayers for you !

You are an adult now. It is hard when parents disapprove, but if you truely find their disapproval has no real basis then just keep praying for it.

Let God be your guide now, he will show you if this relationship is true and just. He will also show your parents (though it may take longer than you want).
 
betabeta, my parents never approved of my husband either. We started dating the spring of 02 while we were both in high school, got married winter of 07 while we were both in college, and had our first baby last month after we had both graduated from college. My mom died spring of 05 and at the funeral a coworker of hers asked how it was going with a certain tutor of mine… apparently mom was hoping I would end my current relationship and start dating the tutor :eek: Just a few months ago my dad said I need to make sure I can take care of myself if my husband leaves me :mad: nice advice for a very pregnant lady. My husband is very sad that my parents do not like him. Dad is way too protective of “his baby” and refuses to acknowledge that I am an adult. I think if mom would have lived until her granddaughter was born, she would have changed her mind about my husband – what grandmother can be mad at the man that helped give her the first grandbaby – but that didn’t change dad’s mind. If anything, he’s giving more unwanted advice about raising the baby.

Be prepared for the fact that your parents might not change their mind and you might have to make some topics off limits or stop talking to them altogether until they respect you and your choices. Even if you are behaving like a foolish little child (it does not sound like that is the case btw) they need to respect the fact you are an adult and you need to make your own mistakes now. They can’t protect you forever. PM me if you want to talk in more detail since our situations seem similar.
 
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Highwayhound:
It took me a long time to figure out the whole multi-quoting thing. What I do is highlight the text I want, then click on the quote balloon (near the upper right corner of the text window), and then move the whole thing to a completely separate document where I can work on it before returning it to the Catholic Answers text
Let’s see if this works!
Are you the oldest child? Reassure them patiently and calmly. Again do not forget to let them know that you love them. They are your parents, but remember they are also two of God’s creatures with all their doubts and fears. Did they do a good job of raising you and your sisters? Yes? Then let them know that you appreciate their efforts.
Yes, indeed, I am the oldest child! I do need to work on focusing on letting them know that I understand that their concerns are well-intentioned and expressed out of love… but at the same time disagree and try to clarify, which they’ve had difficulty accepting. My next youngest sister has been in and out of several relationships with a few more serious issues, so I think their accustomed to transfer their worries about her ex’s onto my boyfriend. It seems like my sister has funneled my parent’s expectations into trying to change or train her boyfriends to be more acceptable in the eyes of my parents since she’s observed and taken part of the critical audience of my relationship. My parents believe that she is better able to function in relationships than me since she’s been in and out of several… yet she continues to fall into the same traps every single time, it seems! I do feel very blessed to have had a functional, intact and supportive family growing up… but it isn’t perfect and I’m willing to accept that.
So, mom is looking out for her baby, but perhaps is a bit zealous in her efforts and focusing in too narrow of a fashion.
That sounds about right! Another good point for me to bring up when discussing with them… it just seems that they become enraged and close up to me any time I suggest that they try to see things from a broader perspective - hence my feeling that my attempts to provide insights are constantly rejected.
A good list of activities – have you casually mentioned these things when you chat with your mom? Not over emphasizing them, but a mere casual mention in passing. If your mom is attune to things she will take note of your activities.
I’ve mentioned several of the activities that we attend together in conversations, but my parents simply see that as me “coaching” him and dragging him along to things that he wouldn’t go to otherwise on his own. No matter how I mention it, my parents are of the mindset that he has little intrinsic motivation in growing in his faith and that he is a perpetual follower. My boyfriend doesn’t typically discuss his private spiritual activities with many people unless he has a closer friendship with them, which is not the case with my parents. Another situation where one-on-one activities with my dad may give them a deeper and truer understanding of his faith journey.
Do you have a Catholic store somewhere nearby?
One of the beauties of living in a somewhat dense, metropolitan area… yes indeed! My boyfriend’s mom (somewhat out of town) also works at a parish with an extensive library for parishioners, so we could quite possibly find many of the titles there. Thank you for the suggestions!
Is this tacit approval to get engaged?? :eek: 😉 (See here I am picking and choosing my spots for humor.)
ROFL 😃 I’d like to think so!
Again thanks for taking time to fill in the blanks and answer some questions.
Thank YOU for all of your advice and insight and have a wonderful weekend!

In Christ,
 
I just wanted to share my story thinking it might help:

I’ve currently been married to my wonderful husband for almost 8 years; we started dating 13 years ago. I too am the oldest child, and my family too is very close knit, to the point where my mother would constantly tell us that we could not rely on friends, just our family. My parents put up with my dating my future husband without much argument, but as soon as talk turned to engagement, all heck broke loose (i really can’t come up with a better phrase!)

I was a senior in college and my husband and I had been dating for three years. We knew my parents were going to be resistent to the idea (my mother in particular did not feel that I should get engaged until I completed medical school) but we prayed about it, talked to our campus priest, and felt very strongly that this road was the one we were called to take. My husband proposed, I accepted, and then we spent 2 days listening to my parents scream (literally) at me on the phone.

We postponed the wedding for four years, until I was almost done with medical school (which I was funding myself). Four years of dialogue with my parents who, like yours, could not find any good in my very Catholic engineer fiance, who was nothing but respectful and honest to my family. In the end, we discerned many of the points that other posters have made: it was time for me to choose to be my husband’s future wife; to realize the difference between respecting my parents and obeying them; and to realize that I was not going to convince them through words that God was calling us to marry.

We got married, in a traditional Catholic wedding, with many friends and family members in attendance. There were weeks where my parents did not speak to me at all. My mother and half of my sisters did not attend. 1 week before the wedding my father called me up and asked to walk me down the aisle (I attribute that change of heart to prayer alone!)

It was a long, heartbreaking road, but now my parents realize that my husband and I were right. It just took time and prayers (and demonstrating the strength of our marriage!) They will never say it out loud, but we are both accepted, they get along well with him, we have wonderful family get togethers, they are wonderful grandparents to our children.

So with hope and prayer, if this is what God is truly calling you to do, there may be a time when your parents come around. Just keep your heart open to your parents, keep reminding them how much you love them, and with God’s grace they will eventually understand that.
 
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