Parents who curse their children

[Monica4316]

A lot of people don’t believe in demons or demonic activity either.

the truth isn’t decided by a vote…

Children are all innocent and no one human being can “put a curse” on a chilld. That’s the truth. Otherwise this could be said of every child born with a terminal disease. Very tragic and sad, but wrong to say they’re “cursed”

who said that terminal disease means a curse?

the innocence of children is why something like this is a grievous sin. It doesn’t mean impossibility. Neither does it mean that every bad thing happening is the result of demonic activity. I was also specifically referring to greater temptation or demonic obsession.

 

[Monica4316]

I see what you’re trying to say now, Monica.

I would think that the person would have to be involved in the occult in some way and by doing so, would have had to “invite” something negative into their home, in order for something to happen to their family. That’s what I think.

thank you for the reply

 

[fin]

Monica,

Are you also referring to parents cursing their children as something like this example?

I have read that parents calling their children lazy or stupid is not good, whether the accusation is true or not (if the child really is lazy or not). This statements are usually said when the parent is annoyed or mad, and not uttered with any intention of occult involvement or whatsoever.

A blog post over at Women of Grace talked about curses, including those by parents over children. I wrote to them asking how can this be overcome, but they didn’t respond.

I’ve read that it’s like curses. What do you think? And if these things are curses, what can one do in order to get over them? I’ve asked about family issues in the thread I posted on binding prayer.

 

[mommy_k]

When hate is verbalized and directed to others ,especially if harm is wished, the evil one takes notice.

Best to stay close to God and the sacraments.

 

[Monica4316]

Monica,

Are you also referring to parents cursing their children as something like this example?

I have read that parents calling their children lazy or stupid is not good, whether the accusation is true or not (if the child really is lazy or not). This statements are usually said when the parent is annoyed or mad, and not uttered with any intention of occult involvement or whatsoever.

A blog post over at Women of Grace talked about curses, including those by parents over children. I wrote to them asking how can this be overcome, but they didn’t respond.

I’ve read that it’s like curses. What do you think? And if these things are curses, what can one do in order to get over them? I’ve asked about family issues in the thread I posted on binding prayer.

hmm…I’ve never thought about that. I think that if a parent says something to a child with hate, that can affect the child for sure, but I’m not sure if it would be the same as a curse. I think maybe the devil might tempt the child to bitterness or discouragement over that, and there’s also a natural response as well. I think what I was referring to are statements that directly involve the devil, but cases when it’s not meant very much (not like a “curse”), but is said out of a moment of anger.

Would it be possible at all to link that blog post here?

When hate is verbalized and directed to others ,especially if harm is wished, the evil one takes notice.

Best to stay close to God and the sacraments.

of course the devil can use that it’s true… even if it’s just tempting the hurt person to unforgiveness or despair

 

[fin]

Here is the blog post. Quoting the 2nd example:

1. Curses that are spoken between people who have a blood relationship with one another are particular damaging. For instance, in one case, a father who did not want a child wished evil upon his newborn son and continued to do so as long as the boy lived at home. As he grew up, the boy suffered every kind of ill fortune in life – poor health, chronic unemployment, a difficult marriage, sickly children. The exorcism helped him spiritually, but nothing more. His life remained a train wreck.

Link: womenofgrace.com/blog/?p=15493

So in this case, when can a person do?

Would it be possible at all to link that blog post here?

 

[Arizona_Fat_Gir]

Do some research on curses.

In the 1920s a woman was possessed by the devil. She was cursed by her extremely evil father, who wanted to commit incest with her. She refused, so he cursed her to the devil. His mistress helped along with this curse as well.

This woman was under diabolical possession from the time she was 16 until she was 40. The exorcism took place in Earling, Iowa. If you just key in to this, the story will be right there online.

 

[oldgraymare2]

thank you for the reply

You’re most welcome, Monica.

 

[MaryHelp777]

Is this the same Fr. Amorthe who has claimed to have performed over 70,000 exorcisms? Let’s see…at 1 per day, it would require 191 years to complete such a task. Two a day would take 95 years. Unless Fr. Amorthe is several hundred years old, I think that there is a lot of hyperbole in what he says.

There is no such thing as a curse.

He performed exorcisms all day all week for his entire priestly life. It was his job as the official Exorcist of Rome.
Also, he said some lesser exorcims only take a few mins.

Mathematics…

 

[Monte_RCMS]

Over the years, I have met 5000 people as part of our parish counseling office.

Some were “attacked” by parents … but we found that in most cases, the parent was vocalizing his or her attack on themself.

In other words, the parent was self-critizing, but it came out as an attack on the child.

It’s a mess.

But use prayer.

Short prayers.

Dear Mary, pray for me.

Dear Jesus, hold me in your arms, forgive me my sins, make me the way you want me to be.

Pray always.

Walking down the street.

Walking down the hallway.

While eating.

Pray, pray, pray.

Find a Catholic church that has “Perpetual Eucharistic Adoration”. And just drop in. A lot.

You can find out about where they are by asking around at your parish and by doing a search on-line.

 

[Dorothy]

Hateful words to others can be powerful.

We have the antidote…prayer, sacraments, prayer, sacramentals…pray always! Love is the greatest power in the world. Jesus is Victor!

Our faith is a treasure and has so many blessings for us if we use this treasure!

 

[Elena321]

Sad topic

But I heard of someone getting possessed or something because their parent cursed them.

I was wondering - does this sort of thing (I don’t mean possession, but at least obsession) happen if a parent does a particular curse, like in the occult, or can it happen even if the parent says something out of anger, not intending it as a curse, but still involving words like “hell” or “devil”?

Sorry if this is a troubling topic… I’m just wondering. thank you!

I think the parents would have to be heavily involved in the occult for this to happen.
A parent saying to their child something like “go to hell” or “your a child of the devil” or similar out of anger,should not cause possesion to happen.
That said though,the devil would probably be more than happy at the discord.

I don’t mean this in a disrespectful way,but couldn’t focussing on such topics be like superstition or OCD?
I mean the devil will “do what he does” in the background-we don’t have to give him anymore attention than that.

 

[LiamQ]

Curses only have effect if people believe in them. The superstitious fear of being cursed fulfils itself.

Just as a person can ask their guardian angel to go and look after someone else, so they can ask a demon to go and attack someone else. If God permits that demon to respond, then they very much so can and probably are willing.

Forgive me, but we need to stop over-psychologizing everything.

 

[LiamQ]

I was wondering - does this sort of thing (I don’t mean possession, but at least obsession) happen if a parent does a particular curse, like in the occult, or can it happen even if the parent says something out of anger, not intending it as a curse, but still involving words like “hell” or “devil”?

I don’t know.

Parents have authority over their children, and they can bless them, and they can likewise expose them to devils. I’m not aware of the mechanics of how all of this works, but permitting one’s self to get incredibly angry at one’s children itself can be a serious sin. If a parent has allowed himself to get so lost in that anger that they even start invoking devils to insult their child, well … I’m not sure that that would inevitably lead to demonic oppression or obsession, but it should probably be confessed, even if not mortally sinful.

But again, I don’t know. I’m just speculating and sort of considering what I myself would do.

 

[Gliggle]

It is also biblical that we must pay for the sins of our parents. Baptism frees us from this obligation, but when we live in sin, we reject baptism and open ourselves to the old laws. What you describe could happen, but only if God allowed it, which he might in some cases. If the victim/child were an innocent person I imagine it would work to the greater good for that poor soul (and possibly other souls), and God would provide it with many graces that would outweigh its suffering in the long run. If the victim/child were a sinner, I imagine God might allow it as a penance/punishment.

This is my understanding. I may be wrong.