Parish Dos and Don'ts from Millennials

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Personally, think more Parishes need to try an evening daily Mass, even if just once or twice a week.
I strongly agree with this, especially during the summer months when it stays light outside until after 9:00 p.m. So pleasant to come out of the church and still have several hours of daylight to work and play in.

In the winter, it’s kind of tough because it’s dark by 4:00 p.m. and most of us just want to get home from work, turn on all the lights in the house, and cocoon in the warmth and dryness (no slushy or icy snow to trudge through!).
 
Eventually, in the middle of the meeting, I stood up, announced that clearly I was not welcome there, resigned on the spot, and walked out. Fiefdom indeed.
I wouldn’t have resigned. I would have taken up my spear and lance and started a battle! There are times when a battle is appropriate and necessary.
 
Some of this is not new. I remember hearing how over 50 years ago the priests in our parish were promoting daily mass and the benefits of going to daily mass. That was until someone pointed out to them that the daily mass schedule conflicted with most of the parishioners’ work schedules. They were asked to please change the daily mass schedule or stop promoting daily mass. They stopped promoting daily mass.
Well, this is disturbing… 😦
 
I wouldn’t have resigned. I would have taken up my spear and lance and started a battle! There are times when a battle is appropriate and necessary.
All I can say is you’re not me! Actually, I think standing up in the middle of the meeting, calling them out, and walking out was probably a lot more effective than sticking around.

I forgot to add one essential detail to the original story: When the pastor originally announced the election for the council, he made a big point of how difficult it was to find people who wanted to run. Of course it was! He MADE it difficult!
 
Some of this is not new. I remember hearing how over 50 years ago the priests in our parish were promoting daily mass and the benefits of going to daily mass. That was until someone pointed out to them that the daily mass schedule conflicted with most of the parishioners’ work schedules. They were asked to please change the daily mass schedule or stop promoting daily mass. They stopped promoting daily mass.
A lot of this sort of stuff wouldn’t fly if the Church were a business. The problem is, it’s a monopoly. Although, as we have all seen from the statistics, it’s a monopoly people can simply walk away from. A few business courses in the seminary would not go amiss. Not just for “customer relations,” but, let’s face it, running a parish is a big job from a managerial point of view.
 
Sunday Mass, and I know people who attend it even though they don’t work in the hospital! It’s perfect because it’s fast and short, and for people who have issues with sitting still for a long time (e.g., those with toddlers, or those with physical impairments), it’s perfect!
Because people will adopt the hospital chapel as a quasi parish, our Bishop has forbidden Sunday Mass at any hospital chapel in the Diocese.

He did this to encourage people to support their own parish.

There are still daily Masses, just nothing on Sunday.
 
From my experience bringing in guest speakers from EWTN, the turn out is stunningly small. It really takes some parishioner who is willing to sponsor these more academic speakers in.
 
One reason for 8 or 8:30 AM Masses is that the parish is attached to a school. They schedule Mass to begin the school day.
 
Time frame is very suspect in my mind. Grandted I am sure the 50 years was an approximation. But if it was in the late 60s to early 70s, most parishes still would have had a very early morning mass. 8:00 am masses were normally the school masses in those days. If it was in the mid-70s, the craziness had started, and its almost impossible to imagine a parish that had already dropped its early mass, that the priest would have been encouraging daily mass attendance. Not saying it didn’t happen, as there was a wide sprectrum of parish conditions in that time frame, but something doesn’t ring true to me.
In the early 90s, when the beginnings of the reaction had started and people were once again starting to be encouraged to do things such as rosaries, adoration, daily mass (albeit slowly), I could certainly believe it had happened.
 
She felt excluded because the ‘Catholic Mom’s’ group only met during work hours. I guess you don’t get to be a Catholic Mom if you work?
I felt that way too, but I have to admit that also happened with the public school mom’s group too, so it’s not just a catholic thing to forget about us working mom’s. My suggestion would be to take some time off to attend one of the meetings and find out if anyone has thought about accommodating working moms?
 
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Because people will adopt the hospital chapel as a quasi parish, our Bishop has forbidden Sunday Mass at any hospital chapel in the Diocese.
As I said, it’s a monopoly. Anything that threatens the monopoly (even though it achieves the results they say they want) has to go.
 
The Extraordinary Form.
In simple terms it is the traditional Latin mass.
 
Thank you.

I took four years of Latin. I really enjoy the extraordinary form. My wife and kids though…
 
I work with a lot of millenials, and they are really nice people.

But, they instantly want to be in charge. They want to have an impact NOW!

But, that isn’t the reason that this post resonates. The reason it resonates is Catholic parishes don’t really cater very well to anyone. Sometimes I think that’s because the parish can’t hold the pastor to any performance standards, and the pastor reports to the Bishop; he doesn’t report to the people of his parish.

So, the clerics do what they do, and wonder why attendance is lagging and the offertory is down.
 
But, they instantly want to be in charge. They want to have an impact NOW!

But, that isn’t the reason that this post resonates. The reason it resonates is Catholic parishes don’t really cater very well to anyone

Sometimes I think that’s because the parish can’t hold the pastor to any performance standards, and the pastor reports to the Bishop; he doesn’t report to the people of his parish.
I agree with the part about millenials wanting to instantly be in charge. But on the second part, I disagree. Based on my experience, I think parishes do try but they are not going to be able to please everyone. Someone or some group is not going to get things catered to exactly their specifications, no matter how hard a pastor tries. I don’t think this can be avoided.
 
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Millennials favoring traditional hymns and devotions? Who saw this coming? This is great!

The comments regarding working people are well-taken. In my early years as a Catholic, there were Masses and confessions on weekday evenings. Not so much anymore. We need to bring this back. The retirees (myself included) could attend in the evening just as easily as they do in the mornings or mid-day.
Remember that traditional hymns are the ones that survived the dustbin after they were new. There have been many songs introduced over the decades, but only a certain number survived, and they survive for a reason. I don’t think we should resist learning some new songs, but the ones that don’t stand up well to the test of time need to go the way of art that doesn’t make the cut.
 
I don’t think we should resist learning some new songs, but the ones that don’t stand up well to the test of time need to go the way of art that doesn’t make the cut.
As I keep pointing out on this forum, for years and years I have done an informal survey: I count the 10 people nearest me–how many are actually singing? I’ve never had the number go over 4 out of 10. With one exception–for several years I went to a church where they said the new form of the Mass, but almost all the songs were Gregorian chant. In that church, it was always 9 or 10 out of 10–and it was very international (Filipinos, Indians, Africans, Chinese, even some white folks). But the point is that the music director is going to be paid the same whether everyone sings or no one sings.
But, that isn’t the reason that this post resonates. The reason it resonates is Catholic parishes don’t really cater very well to anyone. Sometimes I think that’s because the parish can’t hold the pastor to any performance standards, and the pastor reports to the Bishop; he doesn’t report to the people of his parish.
Yup, you’ve got it. Before anyone responds that the priests are “too busy,” let me emphasize that a lot of what I’m talking about doesn’t require the priest’s participation, just his OK. For example, I’ve always thought the local church could do a lot more for its unemployed members–job bulletin boards, encourage members who own small businesses to advertise open jobs, have a volunteer program to practice resume writing and interviews, etc. etc. You just need a meeting place, a bulletin board, and permission. The same would go for a host of other activities, for example a book group, or a group to discuss international affairs. And I’m sure a lot (some??) parishes do this sort of thing. But not where I’ve been. And I’ve often wondered if this sort of thing is even discussed at meetings of diocesan priests. (Think of it like a grocery store. The manager wants more customers. But he only sells canned goods. So customers are forced to go elsewhere to buy meat, fish, vegetables, drinks, etc. So why doesn’t he sell all those at his own store so that customers build up loyalty to his store and think of it first when they want groceries?)
 
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