Parish Registration-- Location vs. (Roman or Eastern Rite)

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My husband and I just found out that there is a Eastern Ukrainian Catholic “Mission” near us. So, would we need to be registered still in the Roman Catholic Church we are nearest to by location? And can you even register at a mission that is ( I think) not yet a full parish?

Please pardon any lack of knowledge- my husband has not been practicing for some time and I am not Catholic (but wanting to convert) so my knowledge is limited.
 
You can register at any parish, even one that is on the other side of town. As long as you go there regularly. It may even belong to another diocese or eparchy.
 
ConstantineTG said:
You can register at any parish, even one that is on the other side of town. As long as you go there regularly. It may even belong to another diocese or eparchy.
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while that may be true, you will never be a parishioner of said parish

you are a parishioner of the parish that you are in the geographical parish of, which may or may not be the church closest to you

however, in the case of multiple sui iuris churches, my knowledge is fuzzy, but should be similiar
 
Montalo said:
while that may be true, you will never be a parishioner of said parish

you are a parishioner of the parish that you are in the geographical parish of, which may or may not be the church closest to you

however, in the case of multiple sui iuris churches, my knowledge is fuzzy, but should be similiar
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Canonically yes. But still we can register and attend at any parish of our own choice. The Church doesn’t restrict us in any which way.

In cases of sui juris, then you belong to the parish of your sui juris who has geographical jurisdiction of your home. So if you live beside a Roman Catholic parish but you’re Ukrainian Catholic and the UGCC parish is a 30-minute drive away, you belong Canonically to the UGCC parish.

But again, there it nothing in Canon Law that would force you to go to any parish. Registration usually means you regularly attend that parish and would support that parish and join in their activities including and beyond Liturgy.
 
Montalo said:
while that may be true, you will never be a parishioner of said parish you are a parishioner of the parish that you are in the geographical parish of, which may or may not be the church closest to you however, in the case of multiple sui iuris churches, my knowledge is fuzzy, but should be similiar
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When I was worshiping as a Byzantine Catholic (although still canonically a Latin Catholic), I drove past at least seven Latin Catholic parishes on the way that I could see from the streets I had been driving (I don’t know how many actual parishes I drove through), including crossing diocesan bounds from the Archiocese of Chicago into the diocese of Joliet.

However, Annunciation of the Mother of God was the local BC parish, so that’s where I went. I actually wrote a letter to the Latin Catholic parish I had been registered with and stated that I was registering with the Byzantine Catholic parish. (I never received a response but the envelopes stopped coming.)

In fact, it was the only Byzantine Ruthenian parish in Illinois, and for that matter, since the mission in Racine (or Kenosha or wherever, I forget) had closed the parish could theoretically extend through the entire state of Wisconsin. I don’t think His Grace bishop John was a stickler about parish boundaries, but actually by my reckoning the moribund parish in Whiting Indiana was closer to Wisconsin than Annunciation was.
 
Montalo said:
while that may be true, you will never be a parishioner of said parish

you are a parishioner of the parish that you are in the geographical parish of, which may or may not be the church closest to you

however, in the case of multiple sui iuris churches, my knowledge is fuzzy, but should be similiar
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What you say is correct at its core but, as the expression goes, the devil is in the details.
  • If the parties are UGCC (or if, in this case, the husband is and the wife will be received into the UGCC), they would be parishioners of the UGCC, registered or not.
  • If, OTOH, the parties are Roman Rite (or being received into the Roman Rite), they would be parishioners of the geographic Roman Rite parish, irrespective of any “registration” either there or elsewhere.
The business of “registration” means little beyond being on the mailing list.
 
I do not know if this applies here in North America. In the Philippines there is no registration, but if you are to get married you need to publish wedding bans in the parishes where you geographically belong. So when I got married, I hardly went to the parish where my home belongs to because there is another one which is actually closer to where I lived. I still have to go to my home parish and publish the wedding bans there.
 
ConstantineTG said:
I do not know if this applies here in North America. In the Philippines there is no registration, but if you are to get married you need to publish wedding bans in the parishes where you geographically belong. So when I got married, I hardly went to the parish where my home belongs to because there is another one which is actually closer to where I lived. I still have to go to my home parish and publish the wedding bans there.
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Yes it does. It’s universal. This [thread=490596]thread[/thread] from another forum here might help clarify.
 
Cool. Now how do I tell my Roman Catholic parish I’m attending an Eastern Catholic one? 😃
 
Montalo said:
while that may be true, you will never be a parishioner of said parish

you are a parishioner of the parish that you are in the geographical parish of, which may or may not be the church closest to you

however, in the case of multiple sui iuris churches, my knowledge is fuzzy, but should be similiar
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There are exceptions.

Non-Territorial (Personal) Parishes can be set up for serving particular subgroups of the faithful (CIC Can.518); if one is of the designated group, then the pastor there is one’s proper pastor. Some may be set up as optional personal parishes, where one must be registered properly to be placed under that pastor.

Few EC eparchies are dense enough to have such parishes. However, it’s not uncommon for US Latin Church bishops to designate the local EC parish as also being an optional personal parish for Latins interested in that particular church’s mode of worship.

Can. 518 As a general rule a parish is to be territorial, that is, one which includes all the Christian faithful of a certain territory. When it is expedient, however, personal parishes are to be established determined by reason of the rite, language, or nationality of the Christian faithful of some territory, or even for some other reason.
 
Aramis said:
There are exceptions.

Non-Territorial (Personal) Parishes can be set up for serving particular subgroups of the faithful (CIC Can.518); if one is of the designated group, then the pastor there is one’s proper pastor. Some may be set up as optional personal parishes, where one must be registered properly to be placed under that pastor.
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I was baptized in such a parish, in Chicago, Saint Casimir’s. It was set up to serve the Polish community and there were several more like it.

The Polish community was so densely packed in those days that the diocesan territorial parish was also mostly Polish.
 
Here’s another parish registration dilema.

So I’m Canonically RC. If I attend and register at the UGCC parish I am attending, and if before we officially are granted transfer of sui juris, and we have another child, do I have to bring the child back to a RC parish for baptism? I know most parishes would require you are a registered parishioner for baptisms.
 
ConstantineTG said:
Here’s another parish registration dilema.

So I’m Canonically RC. If I attend and register at the UGCC parish I am attending, and if before we officially are granted transfer of sui juris, and we have another child, do I have to bring the child back to a RC parish for baptism? I know most parishes would require you are a registered parishioner for baptisms.
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Have to? no.

But the UGCC pastor should get permission of the territorial roman pastor in whose parish you reside.

Unless, of course, the local Roman bishop has granted a blanket exception and/or designated the UGCC parish to function for Romans attached to Byzantine Spirituality as a Personal Parish…

I know that my Ruthenian parish was so designated.
 
Aramis said:
Have to? no.

But the UGCC pastor should get permission of the territorial roman pastor in whose parish you reside.

Unless, of course, the local Roman bishop has granted a blanket exception and/or designated the UGCC parish to function for Romans attached to Byzantine Spirituality as a Personal Parish…

I know that my Ruthenian parish was so designated.
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Cool, how do I find that out? I’ve never come across that information on our Archdiocese Website
 
ConstantineTG said:
Cool, how do I find that out? I’ve never come across that information on our Archdiocese Website
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YOU don’t need to worry about it. You do your prep with your UGCC pastor, and he’ll let you know what you need to do.
 
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