Parking and Etiquette a Catholic Problem?

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I’m wondering if this is just a Texas thing or if this is an issue in Catholic Churches across America.
In every single church I’ve attended here or passed I’ve seen that parking is a huge inconvenience to people who aren’t attending the Mass. The parishioners park wherever they want regardless of how it might inconvenience drivers on the road or other people trying to park, or even emergency vehicles.
I’ve seen in many churches people park on the ROAD and completely shut down a lane of traffic! Apparently so that they can be closer to the sanctuary. I don’t know, but if you go around to the other side of the church there’s always plenty of open parking. People park along the fire lanes, in the road, or I’ve even seen on the grass or side of the lot instead of simply parking in a space a bit farther away.
This is not just something I’m perturbed about, in every single church I’ve attended there have been announcements at the end of Mass and numerous columns printed in the bulletin to remind parishioners to please park in appropriate spaces. There are warnings about being towed or being ticketed. My father used to work at a fire station that was directly across from the first Catholic Church I walked into and he said they had to block off their driveway because the laity was parking all along it preventing them from driving the trucks back into the garage.
Granted there are Masses which are so large that parking space can be limited. I understand that, but so are bar strips on a Saturday night and people don’t park illegally or block driveways (as the announcement in my last bulletin from my current church points out) to get to the bars.
What is the issue here? Why is it when people go to church they forget how to park and being considerate to their fellow man?
I find it kind of sad that not only do our parishioners do this, but that announcements have to constantly be made in the Mass and the bulletin about it.
On another topic too… along with this advisory are constant advisories about “Etiquette” in the Mass!! Why is it Catholics need to be told these things? Things like, “Don’t come in late” (I think for Catholics that’s personally like telling them not to eat) “Don’t leave after Communion” “Turn off your cell phones.” “Dress appropriately for the Mass” “Don’t leave during the Liturgy.” “Don’t chew gum during Mass.” “Don’t bring water to the Mass” “Don’t text or answer calls during Mass” I mean… are these really problems!? :eek:
I think it just goes along with the whole attitude Catholics have about attending the Mass starting when they park their car.
I am just curious if this is just a Texas parish problem or a countrywide problem? I know all this sounds critical but perhaps it is a bit. How can someone feel prepared to honor and celebrate God in the Mass when they don’t care where they park, what they’re wearing, while they’re sipping on water, and texting people during Mass?

I have a hard enough time trying to defend my faith without such inconsideration being on constant display. 😊
 
well I went to St. Patrick’s Cathedral today, and there are TWO signs in front of the Blessed Sacrament chapel area, saying “please do not use cameras in this area, thank you!” One guy goes straight down the center aisle, stands right near me, and takes a picture, with flash and everything. Now, who even knows if he is Catholic since it’s a tourist destination as well, but I think all people need to be constantly reminded of etiquette, and even if we put signs right in front of people’s faces, they still won’t even notice or, sadly, care.
 
I don’t think it’s just at church, it’s everywhere…People can be lazy and inconsiderate; they want to park nearer to the doors and that’s that. Has nothing to do with being Catholic. Go to any busy church, or shopping mall, or sports event parking (especially high school sports), or the local IHOP after church, etc. and you’ll see the same thing. I do think little things like this can be a moral issue, because any kind of habitual lack of respect/consideration for others speaks to a person’s character.

It’s probably worse in Texas than other places, because of this heat wave. People want to get from their air conditioned car straight to the air conditioned church ASAP.

It’s be cool if everyone took the bus to church at least one Sunday a year. Might build some character. 🙂
 
I found this thread amusing, not because the obviously poor state of people’s consideration, but because I live in a town where people do not know how to park. We go to Mass downtown and people are routinely parked through the T intersection, in turn lanes, in no parking zones, and within 10ft of the curb. The only thing people do watch out for is the fire hydrant. It is not just chuch goers, as we generally go to an evening mass, there is often an event going on. I think 95% of the time there is someone parked the turn lane, we would use if they weren’t parked there, near on of the event centers. :rolleyes: Generally the driving here is bad, so I guess it goes to follow that the parking would be equally as bad.
 
I think it’s not so much of a Catholic problem as it is a societal problem. Espeically with dressing appropriately and cell phones. Recently I sat in court to support a friend, and I was rather shocked at all of the (or rather lack thereof) clothing. I wouldn’t wear that little amount of clothes to go swimming! Also, there are several signs posted for no drinks and to turn off cell phones, and yet people came in with their cans of pop and texting. The one thing about the court house, though, is the bailiff will actually escort people out breaking the rules. While I don’t think that would be a great thing to do at Mass… sigh Let’s just say that sometimes I leave Mass really sad for society as a whole. More fodder for my prayers, I guess.

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I haven’t seen that problem at any of the Church’s I’ve been to out here. Usually people just fill up the parking lot and then start parking on side streets. How odd!
 
We have people and cones in the parking lot during the season. Sometimes, the police are there as well, keeping an eye out. I’m so scared of going to confession (which is between Masses) b/c of the traffic. I remember one time: ten minutes to even enter the parking lot, and then this fellow sped from behind me to squeeze into the space. I saw him at the head of the confession line and wondered if he’d confessed that he nearly rammed into me to get there. ANd then one sees some drivers ignore the people and cones; I guess that’s why the cops are there.

But off-season – such a difference. I went to confession two weeks ago and wasn’t terrified to drive. If I commit a mortal sin (God forbid!) I’d go of course, but otherwise I’m thinking of just going during the summer.

Father also puts an announcement in the bulletin about summerwear; he is very precise about what not to wear. Sadly there are those who need the reminder. But I like that he reminds!
 
Most of the time people park in the correct places at Mass. But then some insist on backing into the parking space (usually creating a long line of cars waiting to go by to
park) What does it do for them to do this? So they get out 10 seconds sooner!! It’s
been a pet peeve of mine for awhile. It is true that it takes a while to get out after Mass
is over, but I just wait in my car (with the air on) reading the bulletin or a book or magazine.
 
Most of the time people park in the correct places at Mass. But then some insist on backing into the parking space (usually creating a long line of cars waiting to go by to
park) What does it do for them to do this? So they get out 10 seconds sooner!! It’s
been a pet peeve of mine for awhile. It is true that it takes a while to get out after Mass
is over, but I just wait in my car (with the air on) reading the bulletin or a book or magazine.
It’s commonly taught that it is safer to back in than back out - this was a major feature in my Army safe backing course. In fact, we could be charged for not backing into spaces in an army vehicle.

I can only guess that many people prefer to back in for this reason.
 
It’s commonly taught that it is safer to back in than back out - this was a major feature in my Army safe backing course. In fact, we could be charged for not backing into spaces in an army vehicle.

I can only guess that many people prefer to back in for this reason.
It is a proven fact that women cannot back into spaces, but rather, can only back out of them. 😉

That said, is this really true? It seems like men always back into spaces and it drives me crazy.

Why do many parking lots have signs requesting people NOT to back into parking spaces?
 
It’s commonly taught that it is safer to back in than back out - this was a major feature in my Army safe backing course. In fact, we could be charged for not backing into spaces in an army vehicle.

I can only guess that many people prefer to back in for this reason.
I have yet to hear of an accident in the parking lot of the church! I don’t see it happening
in the parking lot of the mall, though there they can just pull through and face forward. It
seem to be more that they want to get out of the parking lot as fast as possible. And if
it is for what you said, why don’t they get there early enough to not create a traffic jam?
Our priest waits till the last minute-ers go through the doors to start Mass sometimes as
long as five minutes.
 
I think it is the inconsideration of the public as a whole nowadays. I have a handicapped permit and cannot begin to tell you how many times a space has been wasted because some youn g 20 something wants to be lazy and “run” into the store. I even confronted a soda pop truck driver who parked in a handicapped space to unload.

If people had their cars towed a time or two then they might be more cautious. Other than money out of their pockets…there is little hope for them to be considerate on their own.😦
 
Out here clothing and cell phones are both problems. I think it must be worse in larger cities simply because humans seem to have a “self-protective” mechanism whereby the higher the population the less other people are thought about. Too much stimulation?
 
If you want to see a parking problem go to the FSSP in Coeur D’alene, ID. The little chapel allotted to them holds about 9.5 vehicles. Everyone else has to park in front of someone’s yard as the Chapel is located in a residential district. It was the most abominable parking I’ve ever seen. Fortunately, they’ve got plans to build a new Church elsewhere.

Concerning cell phones: people who bring cell phones to mass (or at least do not turn them off) should be lynched. A few months back… well, I won’t get into the details… you all have experienced it… cell phone going off… the individual does not know how to silence it [capital sin] then a few minutes the voice mail picks up and you get the alternate ring tone now going off… well, this lady in front me starts freaking out after the ringing, after the ‘left voicemail’ ring tone… then it RINGS AGAIN!!! Arrggghh!! The lil’ old lady in front of me offers to help out by taking the phone, pushin a bunch of buttons… but everyone knows lil’ old lady’s aren’t ‘computer savvy’ [no disrespect] so I motion with a wave of my hand, “let me see it” and I shut it off. During the consecration at a TLM no less! I got a THANK YOU after Mass…but the cell phone issue is just INSANE!! Murphey’s law applies directly to TLM @ Consecration! I kid you not!
 
RE: RosaryCrusader’s post
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OMG! How “embarrassing”! I was sitting in the Eucharistic chapel/Reconciliation chapel (what you call them. I can’t remember right now) that also served as extra seating that opened to the chapel to be part of the Mass and a man’s cell phone went off. He ignored. It stopped. Right afterward, the wife’s cell phone went off which was buried in her purse. It rang and rang, she found it then… she answered it! During the Mass! Then she got up and started walking out. I was scandalized!! The best reaction I saw was an elderly lady in front of us who was very devout. She would remove her sandals in the Presence of the Tabernacle (in this separate chapel) and wore a head covering. I heard her as the lady walked away go, “tsk tsk” through her teeth. She was so annoyed/disappointed. I LOVED IT!
Just a bit shameful.
I guess it is true that our society is a whole is a lot less considerate and I do see other signs in our culture of inappropriate dress and etiquette. I am not a cradle Catholic so I attended other sect churches before I converted and I never saw the problems with parking like I have with the Catholic churches. I guess one would assume that being Christians we would at least practice etiquette, if at no other time, at LEAST at Church. I know a lot of food/drink issues have to do with parents having young toddlers and children and they bring in literally backpacks full of crayons, books, toys, cheerios, and juice in order to pacify the little ones during the Mass, which is another new experience since becoming Catholic. I wonder that ushers don’t politely ask people to park elsewhere, or to take noisy children into the foyer. I know the parking, at least, is not their job at all, but perhaps the church should start hiring “monitors” to do this. It’s a shame that adults still need to be ‘supervised’ to do the right practical things.
I guess this world has just gotten itself into a big d-mn hurry in the last couple of decades and things like manners, etiquette, conversation, and relationships suffer as a result.
 
Neither of the parishes where I attend Mass has aproblem with rude parkers. I’m in the choir at one of them, and so I get there just after the previous Mass ended and there’s nobody there yet, but when it’s time to leave, people walk out in front of you. The other church just has a huge parking lot, way more spaces than people even when the church is packed.

I used to see people using the handicapped spaces, but not so much anymore. Maybe my municipality is harder on offenders and we’ve all gotten the word. I have a handicapped tag too, and can always find a space when I need one.
 
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