"Parler" and Catholic use of social media

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ZemD said:
No one is perfect, but I think publicly advocating for the most vulnerable among us is a good representation of Catholicism, again for the sake of argument, even if it’s just the pro-life values of Catholicism.
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Not when the most visible face of it has publicly praised and defended white nationalists (apologised but then did it again), has said that there were demons inside of the man she was arguing with with.

I think one can say ‘Yes, she did some good in the pro life sector but I don’t want her to represent us, or have these comments be swept under the table’.

There’s just been a pattern of racially charged language with her, and even when Simcha Fischer gave her a chance to explain these studies, she couldn’t do so adequately.

Meh, I would prefer Lila Rose, Fr Mike, Leah Darrow and so on.

Catholics here tend to fall in the trap of saying ‘but black babies are aborted’ every time racism is being brought up. Her antics recently is an example of how that actually hurts than helps.
 
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otjm said:
They and Twitter appear to have a clear bias to the liberal
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This is an understatement! In the past year they are using their liberal convictions more aggressively.

So what should Christians do? We still need to use FB and Twitter for the near future, since that’s where readers are. But it’s obvious the giants will increasingly push ideological blinders. I bet in 5 years all prolife arguments or communications will be labeled Hate Speech, and filtered out.

So alternatives?
 
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commenter said:
We still need to use FB and Twitter for the near future, since that’s where readers are
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Do you mean as a means of fighting the culture wars and/or changing hearts and minds?

I would argue that no one “needs” FB or Twitter. I have neither and I’m perfectly happy.
 
Welshrabbit said:
I would argue that no one “needs” FB or Twitter. I have neither and I’m perfectly happy.
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Ditto here, and I don’t feel at all deprived.

Guessing that that poster craves a soapbox for their views, and a ready made audience to boot.

Well, TANSTAAFL. Nobody owes them that. They have to build their own soap box, and attract their own audience. On their own dime.

Or use one of the myriad alternatives out there. It’s not like there is any shortage of conservative, far-right or alt-right outlets out there. They’re as plentiful as cockroaches.
 
Welshrabbit said:
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We still need to use FB and Twitter for the near future, since that’s where readers are
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Do you mean as a means of fighting the culture wars and/or changing hearts and minds?

I would argue that no one “needs” FB or Twitter. I have neither and I’m perfectly happy.
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Many parishes use social media as a way of communicating with people. We don’t live in the earlier generation when every one knew all their neighbors, and everyone walked to church, where they saw many people they talked to during the week.

I agree, no one “needs” social media, just as no one needs radio, tv, or newspapers. No one needs internet forums like the one you are accessing now.

Christians need to present Christian ideals where people are at right now. Regular face to face contact is best, but there are many you can reach only on social media. I do it on a miniscule level, others on a much larger scale.
 
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Many parishes use social media as a way of communicating with people.
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This is a good point that I didn’t consider. My parish was streaming mass on Facebook and I had to have my millennial wife show me how to navigate to it in order to view it…lol.

I applaud your desire and efforts to meet people where they are, I just don’t see much value in trying to promote Catholic/Christian ideals online.

For the sake of my personal sanity, I don’t try and change hearts and minds online (for the most part). I try and live out my faith in real life with the hope that the people around me may be influenced in some small way.

Again, I applaud your efforts however and wish you luck in fighting the good fight.
 
I think competition is great. I am not a big user of social media outside of this place, though I do venture there occasionally, to follow friends and family, and to post when big life events happen. But there is not First Amendment right to lie, or to have the right to lie on any individual’s, or company’s, website. I think FB is pretty equitable. There is a confirmation bias when they make mistakes against conservative, which have been reversed, or they simply take away deceitful posts, to see this as “censorship”, but it is not. There is a plethora of limitations I have posting here. That is the nature of social media.

I think a conservative alternative is great, as that is part of free enterprise. However, I also think any users of any politically aligned media are foolish if they do not recognize the danger of groupthink, and the inevitable bias, spin, and outright lies that will come.
 
pnewton said:
I think FB is pretty equitable. There is a confirmation bias when they make mistakes against conservative, which have been reversed, or they simply take away deceitful posts, to see this as “censorship”, but it is not.
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One example was when FB auto rejected a posting as containing wording violating their standards. The poster pointed out to them this was the Declaration of Independence. The FB humans over ruled their robots and allowed it to be posted.

But most people won’t take the effort to appeal, and most don’t have a document source that is (for the moment) still safe.
 
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I’ll look into non FB alternatives, but we have to get pro Christian ideas out into the marketplace.
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I have no problem “getting pro Christian ideas out” on Facebook. Yesterday I posted a picture of Our Lady of Perpetual Help and discovered one of my FB friends was Catholic. I had no idea.
Also read a number of Catholic posts from Catholic pages.

I’m not into posting politics. It does nothing to persuade and is mostly just annoying noise. I hide every political post I see unless it makes me laugh.
 
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Tis_Bearself said:
I have no problem “getting pro Christian ideas out” on Facebook.
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It seems that the only people who have problems “getting pro Christian ideas out” on Facebook are . . . people . . . who think misogyny, racism, xenophobia, white supremacism, homophobia, religious intolerance, neonaziism and neo-fascism are “Christian values”.
 
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Tis_Bearself said:
I’m not into posting politics. It does nothing to persuade and is mostly just annoying noise.
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I am lost in politics. No one posts anything that are just “meh.” Politics has become the play of extremists on social media and those who prefer moderation.
 
Jbrady said:
It seems that the only people who have problems “getting pro Christian ideas out” on Facebook are kooks and cranks who think misogyny, racism, xenophobia, white supremacism, homophobia, religious intolerance, neonaziism and neo-fascism are “Christian values”.
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Well, if you’re a pro-life activist you may also have problems. I think there are better ways to advocate for pro-life in most cases. The big battles, like over movie ads, usually have lawyers backing them up.
 
I read people have problems with this media. I haven’t run into it.

“Parler” claims no censorship; I don’t quite go along with this… and even if I were to leave out radical cases like “anti-semitism” say, I don’t know if views on vaccinations and so on should be uncensored. They could be dangerous.

That said, apparently, a lot of people are going to “Parler”, maybe it can work.
 
gracepoole said:
You believe she can commit all manner of sin because she’s pro-life? She damages the pro-life movement and its efficacy. But if you really like her, enjoy Parler.
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I just spent a half hour that I will never get back looking at your links. I think everyone knows that the movie likely embelished her conversion events but nothing in either of those links shows any facts of “sin” or “racism”. The Steelmagnificat blog lacks wisdom of any sort. Wow, what a waste of time.
 
gracepoole said:
She has proven to be racist by any generous standard.
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Please point out what she has said that proves her to be a racist.

racist
— noun
a person who believes in racism , the doctrine that one’s own racial group is superior or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others.
— adjective
of or like racists or racism:
racist policies; racist attitudes.

racism
— noun
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human racial groups determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to dominate others or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others.
a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
 
Elf01 said:
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Funvod:
Doesn’t strike me as a Christian site so much as a far-right site.
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Unfortunately the two tend to be seen as the same.
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That certainly is how it has been defined for us by:
FB, Twitter, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, PBS, Nytimes, WA-PO, many daily newspapers, Time, National Geographic, most of Higher Education, most cable TV networks, Hollywood.

A very incomplete list
 
I don’t partake of social media accounts like Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Tik Tok, or Parler. However, of course, you’ll find racists on Parler. Parler is 100% anti-censorship. Anyone should be able to post anything there. They don’t claim to be a publisher but a platform. Twitter, Facebook, et al, are acting like publishers, even though they claim not to be. They routinely engage in very egregious censorship. It’s a legal quagmire they’ve invented for themselves.
 
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