Part III: As Archbishop, Benedict Focussed on Doctrine

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As Archbishop, Benedict Focused on Doctrine

nytimes.com/2010/03/28/world/europe/28church.html?hp

This appears to be a fair and balanced article on how Benedict ran the archdiocese of Munich as Archbishop Ratzinger.

Several points stand out:
  1. He didn’t want the job. He did want to get to Rome, so took the job as a stepping-stone. he was reluctant to take it because he wasn’t a day-to-day administrator. He was a brilliant thinker, interested in doctrine and reversing some trends of Vatican II.
  2. He enforced doctrine with a heavy hand. He wrote a caustic response to a priest who questioned with the institution of confession with first communion, thinking that the children were too young. He didn’t seem to be terribly interested in his priests. They were able to obtain an appointment with him only after they pointed out to his secretary that the Archbishop had made an appointment with* Pres. Carter’s sister,* but not with them.
  3. He did not appear to be interested in the day-to-day running of his archdiocese. This is a pity, because he might have responded, when asked if the diocese could harbor a visiting priest for “psychiatric treatment”–”What kind of treatment?” and if answered, , “I don’t know”–then “Well, FIND OUT, and get back to me.” or if told what kind–alcoholism? depression? pedophilia?–might have responded, “I want him watched and sent back home as soon as the treatment is completed! And report to me!”—but he didn’t. It turns out that his secretary, one Fr. Fahr*, did* know, informed by his opposite number in the priest’s original diocese of Essen, who told Fahr that 'perhaps he(the priest) could teach in a * girls’ *school ,and a Fr. Gruber, who was responsible for assigning the priest to a parish *5 days *after his treatment started and then apparently completely lost track of him–is old and not available for comment.
 
As Archbishop, Benedict Focused on Doctrine

nytimes.com/2010/03/28/world/europe/28church.html?hp

This appears to be a fair and balanced article on how Benedict ran the archdiocese of Munich as Archbishop Ratzinger.

Several points stand out:
  1. He didn’t want the job. He did want to get to Rome, so took the job as a stepping-stone. he was reluctant to take it because he wasn’t a day-to-day administrator. He was a brilliant thinker, interested in doctrine and reversing some trends of Vatican II.
  2. He enforced doctrine with a heavy hand. He wrote a caustic response to a priest who questioned with the institution of confession with first communion, thinking that the children were too young. He didn’t seem to be terribly interested in his priests. They were able to obtain an appointment with him only after they pointed out to his secretary that the Archbishop had made an appointment with* Pres. Carter’s sister,* but not with them.
  3. He did not appear to be interested in the day-to-day running of his archdiocese. This is a pity, because he might have responded, when asked if the diocese could harbor a visiting priest for “psychiatric treatment”–”What kind of treatment?” and if answered, , “I don’t know”–then “Well, FIND OUT, and get back to me.” or if told what kind–alcoholism? depression? pedophilia?–might have responded, “I want him watched and sent back home as soon as the treatment is completed! And report to me!”—but he didn’t. It turns out that his secretary, one Fr. Fahr*, did* know, informed by his opposite number in the priest’s original diocese of Essen, who told Fahr that 'perhaps he(the priest) could teach in a * girls’ *school ,and a Fr. Gruber, who was responsible for assigning the priest to a parish *5 days *after his treatment started and then apparently completely lost track of him–is old and not available for comment.
Regarding the therapy, Usually people of the psychiatric persuasion thought therapy was the answer to all mental illness; and as Paedophiles were considered mentally ill, and not a scourge of society it was felt the do - good - er’s could cure them by talking through their previous actions. However it is now widely accepted that therapy is unlikely to prove successful as paedophiles choose to be and live this way. However the same therapy advocates felt people with Epilepsy were possessed by Demons . . . and locked them in institutions for the insane.

Before 1994, bishops took their cue from experts in the psychiatric profession who believed pedophilia could be successfully treated. Priests guilty of sexual abuse were sent to one of several treatment facilities across the United States. Bishops often relied upon the judgments of experts in determining whether priests were fit for ministry. This doesn’t mitigate the negligence on the part of some in the hierarchy, but it does offer some insight.

catholiceducation.org/articles/facts/fm0011.html

uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AtQ1UpnixTcNnF5ub4JIAC8gBgx.;_ylv=3?qid=20100326105647AAfm4Bp
 
However the same therapy advocates felt people with Epilepsy were possessed by Demons . . . and locked them in institutions for the insane.
I had not heard this before - can you provide a source?
 
Regarding the therapy, Usually people of the psychiatric persuasion thought therapy was the answer to all mental illness; and as Paedophiles were considered mentally ill, and not a scourge of society it was felt the do - good - er’s could cure them by talking through their previous actions.
I keep hearing this, and as a psychiatric nurse who was active in the 1980s and early 1990s, I didn’t encounter any paedophiles (clergy or otherwise) or hear about any being in treatment from my psychiatrist and psychologist friends. It wasn’t commonly encountered in the mental health system here in the UK at that time. I have never worked with sexual predators except in secure units and that in more recent times (late 90s onwards). I have certainly never heard professionals say that they felt these problems were likely to respond positively to the treatments on offer; in the early days, when they were discussed at all, it was in whispers and with a general sense of the unlikelihood of a cure.

By the way, therapy is the answer to all mental illness, or at least the only answer we have available; its not a heterodox or unscientific belief that some conditions will respond to treatment. The question would be whether sexual deviancy responds to talking treatments or medication. The answer is, sometimes, but irrespective of that there would never be good reason to cease monitoring people.

‘Do-gooders’ is kind of a strange insult, by the way. As Christians we should all want to do good. And as a nurse I was certainly hoping to do good. This sounds rather like another attempt to shift blame: it wasn’t the church, it was those do-gooders who arrogantly want to help and cure people, and who blithely allowed predatory clerics back out onto the streets.

For what its worth, the people I’ve met who work in forensic psychiatry are the complete opposite of the stereotypically naive liberal who is easily misled into believing their patients are cured; instead they tend to be cynical, conservative, and entirely reluctant to take chances. Not always a bad thing, either.
However the same therapy advocates felt people with Epilepsy were possessed by Demons . . . and locked them in institutions for the insane.
Um, do you have a source for this, please?

I’ve heard a number of people here on CAF ascribe mental illness (and the sexual abuse scandals) to the presence of demons, but I’ve never heard a psychiatric professional say it. Back in the middle ages, maybe, but then there was no distinct profession at that time, and the currently referenced scandals didn’t take place then. In the modern era such beliefs would generally ensure that you began to receive treatment yourself.
Before 1994, bishops took their cue from experts in the psychiatric profession who believed pedophilia could be successfully treated. Priests guilty of sexual abuse were sent to one of several treatment facilities across the United States. Bishops often relied upon the judgments of experts in determining whether priests were fit for ministry.
I’d like to see some smoking gun letters or case files (anonymised for the sake of confidentiality, obviously) where a mental health professional says, ‘Yes, he’s cured; he can go back into active ministry’. In the case of clerics who are now dead, these should be easy to produce. If professionals deserve some of the blame, lets hear about it. There’s plenty of blame to go round.
This doesn’t mitigate the negligence on the part of some in the hierarchy, but it does offer some insight.
It might do, but I think some of this is rather off-beam. I am more inclined to say that sexual deviancy was not well understood before 1980 less in terms of being poorly treated by mental health professionals, but more in being a largely hidden phenomenon that very rarely came to their attention. I think it unlikely that it would have been addressed with such blithe optimism when it was so little understood, and would be interested in seeing some clear evidence one way or another.

Unfortunately as mitigation goes, this all breaks down when we consider that in many cases the church knowingly moved abusers not just once but on many occasions, indicating that even in the unlikely event that mental health staff were telling them that the person really was cured this time, they had evidence to the contrary. The church rarely looks to secular experts in making its decisions. I doubt it did on this occasion.

Just in case anyone wonders where I am on all this, I think that the only way to get past any sin or error is to own it completely. So long as excuses are made, or context is seen as more important that events, or ends more significant than means, then such ownership is lacking. If we acknowledge just how wrong this all was, and live with the consequences for a good long while as penance, we may be able eventually to move beyond it. If we don’t make that acknowledgement, then the effects will continue to be felt indefinitely.

This may not be fair, but being Christian means taking up the cross. And this is a passion for our times, suffering seen in the victims of the abuse and also to a lesser extent in those of us who have to help in rebuilding the church so as to avoid this ever happening again. We need to start handling this instead of keeping it at arm’s length.
 
I keep hearing this, and as a psychiatric nurse who was active in the 1980s and early 1990s, I didn’t encounter any paedophiles (clergy or otherwise) or hear about any being in treatment from my psychiatrist and psychologist friends. It wasn’t commonly encountered in the mental health system here in the UK at that time. I have never worked with sexual predators except in secure units and that in more recent times (late 90s onwards). I have certainly never heard professionals say that they felt these problems were likely to respond positively to the treatments on offer; in the early days, when they were discussed at all, it was in whispers and with a general sense of the unlikelihood of a cure.

I doubt this article was lying because things like this can be checked out.
By the way, therapy is
 
Humanistic Psychology: uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AtQ1UpnixTcNnF5ub4JIAC8gBgx.;_ylv=3?qid=20100326105647AAfm4Bp

I’m sure that was the general “thing to do” to anyone who was outside of the norm.
Unfortunately that is a meaningless citation. ‘Humanistic psychology’ is a generic term for the practice of people like Carl Rogers and Abraham Maslow, a group of post-war therapists who would not have entertained the idea of demonic possessions; similarly epilepsy is not a condition that a psychologist or psychotherapist would be asked to treat.

Quite possibly a humanistic psychologist would reference the fact that once upon a time epilepsy was misunderstood as demonic possession, but as I said in my post above, this would have been centuries ago. No mainstream mental health professional would make such a judgement in the modern era.

I think a better source than Yahoo! Answers is needed for what is really a rather scandalous accusation.
 
Here is the article I was referencing: Therapy led to soaring abuse rate in Irish Church

The Church in Ireland has been embroiled by sex abuse scandals since last Summer. Just this week, in fact, Cardinal Sean Brady has been under intense pressure to resign after it was revealed that he did not inform police about the abuse of children by one of Ireland’s most notorious child abusers, Fr Brendan Smyth.

Of course, the Church has actually been rocked by these scandals since the mid-1990s, but the publication of two official reports investigating abuse by priests and religious have been published since last summer and as a result the saga of clerical sex abuse has rarely been out of the Irish headlines since then.

The first report – the Ryan report – investigated abuse in mainly Church-run institutions for children. The second – the Murphy report – detailed abuse by clergy in the Dublin archdiocese.

These documents revealed little that was new. It was the sheer detail they contained that made them so shocking.

To judge from the Murphy report, child abuse by clergy peaked in Dublin in the 1970s and 1980s. Allegations of abuse were disastrously mishandled by the Dublin archdiocese up until roughly the mid-1990s after which time diocesan authorities finally began to deal with allegations properly.

The Catholic Church in Ireland now operates arguably the most robust child protection system in the country, something that is rarely acknowledged. The public still appears to believe that the Church has learned nothing, and done nothing. This is simply not true.

The search for the causes of clerical sex abuse has been ongoing. The male-only priesthood has been blamed. The hierarchical structure has been blamed. Clericalism has (rightly) been blamed. A desire to protect the reputation of the institution has (rightly) been blamed.

But two of the chief culprits are held to be canon law and the rule of celibacy.

Canon law, or Church law, has been blamed for forcing bishops to cover up the allegations, to hide them, and certainly it is true that anyone taking part in a canonical investigation is required to swear an oath of secrecy, or confidentiality.

But the Murphy report itself is very interesting about canon law. It points out that a big problem with this law isn’t that it was used, but that it wasn’t used.

It says: “The Church authorities failed to implement most of their own canon law rules on dealing with child sex abuse…canon law appears to have fallen into disuse and disrespect during the mid 20th century. In particular, there was little or no experience of operating the penal (that is, the criminal) provision of that law… for many years offenders were neither prosecuted nor made accountable within the Church.”

Why did it fall into disuse and disrespect? It was because priests and bishops began to regard it as being overly legalistic and too focused on punishment. They decided it lacked compassion.

Therefore, they stopped using it. No longer did priests accused of child abuse face a canonical trial and the possibility of “defrocking”.

Instead, and with disastrous consequences, they were sent for therapy and then, “cured”, they were reassigned to ministry.

The bottom line is that if canon law had been used properly, fewer children would have been abused. Civil authorities would still not have been informed, but priests found guilty of child abuse under Church law would have been punished and likely removed from ministry making it more difficult for them to offend again.

What about the rule of celibacy? The Murphy report doesn’t comment on this because it is outside its competence. But apparently it is not outside the competence of any number of commentators who like to point the finger straight at this rule and blame the paedophile scandals on it, in part at least.

They claim that the ‘thwarting’ of normal sexual desire is bound to end in the perverting of desire, that in some cases it will be misdirected into desire for children.

This is a big claim for which there should be big evidence because if it is not true, then it is an appalling smear that affects not just celibate priests, but anyone who is celibate, whether that be voluntary or involuntary.

If celibacy is really so dangerous, should we, for example, prevent celibates from being anywhere near young children as one former government minister here in Ireland once suggested? How many lay teachers would that affect?

In fact, no evidence has ever been advanced to show that celibates who look after children are more likely to be abusers than non-celibates who look after children.

What we do know is that while children have been abused in Catholic-run institutions, they have also been abused in institutions run by other Churches, in State-run institutions, in institutions run by other bodies, and of course, in their own homes as well.

A great deal of the coverage attaching to the issue of child abuse by Catholic clergy is undoubtedly motivated by animus towards the Catholic Church itself because abuse by other organisations rarely receives such coverage.

This animus is motivated by rules and beliefs many outsiders find incomprehensible and grotesque, for example, the celibacy rule.

But unless evidence can be found to prove that there is something about Catholicism itself which produces abuse on a scale found in no other institution that cares for children, then we will have to assume this animus is, in fact, a prejudice and treat it as such.

David Quinn is a columnist for The Irish Independent, and a writer on religious and social affairs

timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article7068604.ece?token=null&offset=12&page=2
 
Unfortunately that is a meaningless citation. ‘Humanistic psychology’ is a generic term for the practice of people like Carl Rogers and Abraham Maslow, a group of post-war therapists who would not have entertained the idea of demonic possessions; similarly epilepsy is not a condition that a psychologist or psychotherapist would be asked to treat.

Quite possibly a humanistic psychologist would reference the fact that once upon a time epilepsy was misunderstood as demonic possession, but as I said in my post above, this would have been centuries ago. No mainstream mental health professional would make such a judgement in the modern era.

I think a better source than Yahoo! Answers is needed for what is really a rather scandalous accusation.
Okay, read the Times article I just posted to Ocarm.
 
Also this article in the Catholic Legaue comments on the therapy used to treat pedophilia:

NEW YORK TIMES TRIES TO KEEP FLAME ALIVE

Catholic League president Bill Donohue addresses today’s New York Times news story on the pope:

“Pope Was Told Pedophile Priest Would Get Transfer.” That’s the headline in today’s New York Times piece on the pope. Yet the Times offers absolutely no evidence to support this charge. All it says is that his office “was copied on a memo” about the transfer of Peter Hullermann. According to Church officials, the story says the memo was routine and was “unlikely to have landed on the archbishop’s desk.”

Let’s say Archbishop Joseph Ratzinger, now the pope, did in fact learn of the transfer. So what? Wasn’t that what he expected to happen? After all, we know from a March 16 Times story that when Ratzinger’s subordinates recommended therapy for Hullermann, he approved it. That was the drill of the day: after being treated, the patient (I prefer the term offender) returns to work. It’s still the drill of the day in many secular quarters today, particularly in the public schools. A more hard-line approach, obviously, makes more sense, but the therapeutic industry is very powerful.

In other words, there is no real news in today’s news story. So why print it? To keep the flame alive. Look for the Times to run another story saying they have proof Ratzinger knew of the transfer. Did they think that after he approved the therapy that Hullermann would be sent to the Gulag?

Yesterday’s Times story on the half-century old case concerning Father Lawrence Murphy will be the subject of an op-ed page ad in Tuesday’s New York Times. Meanwhile, I am taking advantage of every TV opportunity to set the record straight. The pope is a great man, and the Catholic League is proud to stand by him.

catholicleague.org/release.php?id=1811
 
I keep hearing this, and as a psychiatric nurse who was active in the 1980s and early 1990s, I didn’t encounter any paedophiles (clergy or otherwise) or hear about any being in treatment from my psychiatrist and psychologist friends. It wasn’t commonly encountered in the mental health system here in the UK at that time.
Fr. Benedict Groeschel mentioned the same thing in his lectures on EWTN a few years back.

If you get a chance, check out his book and he gives reasons why he thinks many things happened. Fr. Groeschel holds a degree in psychology, and the book is an excellent source.

The book is called From Scandal to Hope. You can get it from the Franciscan Friars of the Renewal.

franciscanfriars.com/books/benedict_books.htm
 
I doubt this article was lying because things like this can be checked out.
The only reference I found to therapy in the article was as follows:

*In 1994, the Ad Hoc Committee on Sexual Abuse issued guidelines to the nation’s then 191 dioceses to help them develop policies to deal with the problem of sexual abuse of minors. Almost all dioceses responded and developed their own policies (USCCB document: Guidelines for dealing with Child Sexual Abuse, 1993-1994). By this time, pedophilia was recognized as a disorder that could not be cured, and a problem that was becoming more prevalent due to the increase of pornography. Before 1994, bishops took their cue from experts in the psychiatric profession who believed pedophilia could be successfully treated. Priests guilty of sexual abuse were sent to one of several treatment facilities across the United States. Bishops often relied upon the judgments of experts in determining whether priests were fit for ministry. This doesn’t mitigate the negligence on the part of some in the hierarchy, but it does offer some insight. *

This is an assertion. It is not congruent with my experience as a psychiatric nurse, but then I’m not an expert on sexual deviancy and was rarely involved with treatment of same. As I said, some smoking gun evidence should be easily available to prove the assertion if true, and would reasonably divert some blame to other quarters. I would be interested to see it.
The text with the word ‘do-gooders’ in, was in no reference to the Church or Priests.
I know. It was in reference to mental health professionals - that was why I took exception to it. I was a mental health professional for over 20 years, and I thought the term was a curious one to use as an insult. Doing good is what we’re tasked to do by God.
The article on therapy and pedophilia at the bottom of this text may be of some interest to you.
Despite being titled Therapy led to soaring abuse rate in Irish Church, the article makes only one reference to therapy:

*No longer did priests accused of child abuse face a canonical trial and the possibility of “defrocking”.

Instead, and with disastrous consequences, they were sent for therapy and then, “cured”, they were reassigned to ministry. *

Again, this is an assertion which should be easy to prove, but no evidence is given.

I won’t continue to labour this point, because the thread is probably derailed enough.:o But thus far the shifting of blame to health professionals seems unwarranted. I am not so partisan to my old career that I would deny such culpability if it were supported by evidence, any more than I am so partisan to my faith that I cannot see how the institutional church (as opposed to the church that is the mystical body of Christ) has let us down here. Like I said, there’s plenty of blame to go round.

Best wishes to you, and thank you for continuing to bring so many news articles to our attention here on CAF, which I know you do on a daily basis. Its much appreciated.
 
The only reference I found to therapy in the article was as follows:

*In 1994, the Ad Hoc Committee on Sexual Abuse issued guidelines to the nation’s then 191 dioceses to help them develop policies to deal with the problem of sexual abuse of minors. Almost all dioceses responded and developed their own policies (USCCB document: Guidelines for dealing with Child Sexual Abuse, 1993-1994). By this time, pedophilia was recognized as a disorder that could not be cured, and a problem that was becoming more prevalent due to the increase of pornography. Before 1994, bishops took their cue from experts in the psychiatric profession who believed pedophilia could be successfully treated. Priests guilty of sexual abuse were sent to one of several treatment facilities across the United States. Bishops often relied upon the judgments of experts in determining whether priests were fit for ministry. This doesn’t mitigate the negligence on the part of some in the hierarchy, but it does offer some insight. *
This is an assertion. It is not congruent with my experience as a psychiatric nurse, but then I’m not an expert on sexual deviancy and was rarely involved with treatment of same. As I said, some smoking gun evidence should be easily available to prove the assertion if true, and would reasonably divert some blame to other quarters. I would be interested to see it.
 
Multiple sources are referring to the therapy that pedophiles used to have. This blog talks about it was well:
But this is viral information, Lemonbeam. Assertions are being repeated by multiple sources without making reference to particular evidence, and are then repeated again until they are seen as evidence in and of themselves. We’ve seen this happen with a lot of factoids about the abuse crisis. If true, evidence should be easy to find. And blogs themselves are not a source of evidence, just a place where people express opinions.
Also, it is inaccurate to identify all cases of child sex abuse as PEDOPHILIA.
Indeed, which is why I used the more generic term of sexual deviance.
Today, they say one thing; three decades ago, however, there was false hope and promise that therapy could cure almost every mental problem.
I was around 30 years ago, and such a blue-eyed promise was not being made then, not here in the UK anyway, and not in Ireland from where many of my colleagues came.

I think this line of argument needs to have some evidence as opposed to opinions and anecdotal impressions to gain any credibility - not statements by commentators, however knowledgeable, but documentation, which should be all over the place if the argument is valid. I am open to the possibility that such evidence exists, but assertions are not proof.

Again, best wishes.
 
But this is viral information, Lemonbeam. Assertions are being repeated by multiple sources without making reference to particular evidence, and are then repeated again until they are seen as evidence in and of themselves. We’ve seen this happen with a lot of factoids about the abuse crisis. If true, evidence should be easy to find. And blogs themselves are not a source of evidence, just a place where people express opinions.

I’ll try and find some hard evidence tomorrow. Would those kind of records be kept online though? Maybe. We’ll see.
Indeed, which is why I used the more generic term of sexual deviance
 
Well all these opinions on the therapy of pedophiles, including in a national paper, it must lead somewhere. I doubt it’s made up.
Like all those opinions about how all priests are paedophiles, or how celibacy leads to sexually predatory behaviour, or how Catholics are more guilty of this than pastors in other churches?

Those opinions appear in national papers too. 😦
 
Like all those opinions about how all priests are paedophiles, or how celibacy leads to sexually predatory behaviour, or how Catholics are more guilty of this than pastors in other churches?

Those opinions appear in national papers too. 😦
Well we know those opinions are wrong, because of the statistics.
  1. All priests are paedophiles.
WRONG! In a statement, read out by Archbishop Silvano Maria Tomasi in September 2009, the Holy See stated “We know now that in the last 50 years somewhere between 1.5% and 5% of the Catholic clergy has been involved in sexual abuse cases,” adding that this figure was comparable with that of other groups and denominations.

A Perspective on Clergy Sexual Abuse By Thomas Plante, Ph.D., ABPP, Department of Psychology, Santa Clara University says:

However, although good data is hard to acquire, it appears that this 2 to 5% figure is consistent with male clergy from other religious traditions and is lower than the general adult male population that is best estimated to be closer to 8%. Therefore, the odds that any random Catholic priest would sexually abuse a minor are not likely to be significantly higher than other males in or out of the clergy. Of course we expect better behavior from priests than from the average man on the street. While even one priest who abuses children is a major problem, we need to keep this issue in perspective and remember that the vast majority of priests do not abuse children.

psychwww.com/psyrelig/plante.html

The number of Catholic clergy who abused minors is no higher than clergy of other denominations, and no higher than the general adult male population estimation.

Sexual Abuse in Social Context: Clergy and Other Professionals is a scholarly work that shows sexual abuse is not particularly prevalent within the Catholic hierarchy and that abuse is significantly higher among public school teachers than among ministers and priests. In the report, a study titled “Sexual abuse of students in schools” by Carol Shakeshaft, the instance of prevalence with the NTC public school system is described.

catholicleague.org/specialreports.php?id=10

  1. Celibacy leads to sexually predatory behavior
Wrong! Celibacy bears no causal relation to any type of deviant sexual addiction including pedophilia. In fact, married men are just as likely as celibate priests to sexually abuse children (Jenkins, Priests and Pedophilia). In the general population, the majority of abusers are regressed heterosexual men who sexually abuse girls. Women are also found to be among those sexual abusers. While it’s difficult to obtain accurate statistics on childhood sexual abuse, the characteristic patterns of repeat child sex offenders have been well described. The profiles of child molesters never include normal adults who become erotically attracted to children as a result of abstinence (Fred Berlin, “Compulsive Sexual Behaviors” in Addiction and Compulsive Behaviors [Boston: NCBC, 1998]; Patrick J. Carnes, “Sexual Compulsion: Challenge for Church Leaders” in Addiction and Compulsion; Dale O’Leary, “Homosexuality and Abuse”).

Philip Jenkins asserts that his “research of cases over the past 20 years indicates no evidence whatever that Catholic or other celibate clergy are any more likely to be involved in misconduct or abuse than clergy of any other denomination—or indeed, than non-clergy. However determined news media may be to see this affair as a crisis of celibacy, the charge is just unsupported.”

post-gazette.com/forum/comm/20020303edjenk03p6.asp

Another notification is that molestation of pre-pubescent children is rare, as Phil Jenkins states the vast majority of clergy misconduct cases are nothing like this. The vast majority of instances involve priests who have been sexually active with a person below the age of sexual consent, often 16 or 17 years old, or even older.

post-gazette.com/forum/comm/20020303edjenk03p6.asp
  1. Catholics are more guilty of this than pastors in other churches
WRONG!

The three companies that insure the majority of Protestant churches in America say they typically receive upward of 260 reports each year of young people under 18 being sexually abused by clergy, church staff, volunteers or congregation members.

ipce.info/library_3/files/protestant_churches.htm

There where 6 such alleged cases to the Catholic Church by minors in the year of 2009:

google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j85R9VEVkbi-P-FSz6qBmgmgUsJw

Sexual abuse of minors is slightly higher in Protestant churches according to data released by insurance agencies that underwrite them.

Not to mention, the Protestant Church has had it’s own share of cover ups by Bishops:

telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1566826/C-of-E-child-abuse-was-ignored-for-decades.html

As far as I know, non-Catholic Christian Priests of all denominations, are at no lower rate of sex abuse than Catholic Priests.

Phil Jenkins says, ‘‘Literally every denomination and faith tradition has its share of abuse cases, and some of the worst involve non-Catholics. Every mainline Protestant denomination has had scandals aplenty, as have Pentecostals, Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Jews, Buddhists, Hare Krishnas – and the list goes on.’’

post-gazette.com/forum/comm/20020303edjenk03p6.asp
 
Well we know those opinions are wrong, because of the statistics.
Indeed, which was my point. If opinions are going to be ventured, its good to have facts to back them up.

If we are going to point fingers at the media when they raise concerns that have no basis in reality, we’d better have more robust evidence on offer when we make counter-claims or try to shift blame (or at least share it out with other agencies). Otherwise we are as guilty as the media are of distorting the situation to our own advantage.

Best wishes once more.
 
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