Participation at traditional Latin mass

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Can someone explain how much “outer participation” we are supposed to do during the TLM? I have only attended one and noticed some people responding to prayers and chanting, and others not. I read that we generally don’t respond in this way so I am wondering if these people chanting was ok or normal and also what I should be doing.
 
There are three basic types of TLMs: missas recitatas (low masses), missas cantatas (sung masses with only a priest), and missas solemnis (high masses, with a priest, deacon and subdeacon). Missas cantatas are what you will usually see in most situations, and they are completely spoken, and the congregation does not make any responses. On festive days, missas cantatas and missas solemnis are celebrated (if resources are available), and the congregation does make responses on those days.
 
YoungTradCath said:
There are three basic types of TLMs: missas recitatas (low masses), missas cantatas (sung masses with only a priest), and missas solemnis (high masses, with a priest, deacon and subdeacon). Missas cantatas are what you will usually see in most situations, and they are completely spoken, and the congregation does not make any responses. On festive days, missas cantatas and missas solemnis are celebrated (if resources are available), and the congregation does make responses on those days.
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Missa Cantanas are normally on Sundays, and are completely sung. Low Masses are completely spoken, and the congregation can either be silent or quietly say the responses with the servers.
 
MartyrForJesus said:
Missa Cantanas are normally on Sundays, and are completely sung. Low Masses are completely spoken, and the congregation can either be silent or quietly say the responses with the servers.
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Oops, I meant to say “Missas recitatas are what you will see in most situations…”
 
Some Low Masses I’ve attended, some people respond others don’t when the servers respond. I know some of the responses and have a missal (or missalette) to use for those I don’t know in full.
 
But there is also “dialogue Mass” in some places… I believe it’s a hybrid of High Mass and Low Mass.

A Dialogue Mass (in Latin, Missa dialogata) is a Low Mass, in which the people recited some parts of the Latin text of the Tridentine Mass.
 
mfrances said:
But there is also “dialogue Mass” in some places… I believe it’s a hybrid of High Mass and Low Mass.

A Dialogue Mass (in Latin, Missa dialogata) is a Low Mass, in which the people recited some parts of the Latin text of the Tridentine Mass.
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I am not sure, though, if any priests still celebrate this type of mass. The dialogue mass was a concession to the norm.
 
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I am not sure, though, if any priests still celebrate this type of mass. The dialogue mass was a concession to the norm.
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So was the Missa Cantata at one point. And so, some argue, is the silent low mass.

Various levels of dialogue mass were allowed before Vatican II, with some very closely resembling what you would see in a NO mass or Byzantine DL. The practice was endorsed by Pope Pius XII.

Father Z has some info and thoughts on it here: wdtprs.com/blog/2011/06/quaeritur-degrees-of-dialogue-during-the-extraordinary-form-wdtprs-poll/

I would also recommend, if you are interested, this longer article in .pdf form: romanitaspress.com/articles/dialog_mass_article-remnant.pdf
 
At my parish, our Sunday High Mass offered by the FSSP the congregation usually sings the Asperges Me (when the choir doesn’t switch it up with some fancy polyphony version :confused:) the closing hymn when it’s something common and in English, as well as the Kyrie and Gloria the odd time Mass VIII is used. Other than that, there’s the normal “Et cum spiritu tuo”, Preface dialogue responses, and the “sed libera nos a malo” during the Pater Noster.

I just try to blend in. 😃
 
I’ve seen some people sing along with the chants such as the Creed and the Asperges Me. I also mouth the words of the Confiteor, but don’t really say them out loud.
 
It depends on the place and Mass type. If I attend Masses with other members of the local Una Voce chapter, most of us know the responses and/or follow along easily in the missalettes, plus a few of the men in the group also do altar serving from time to time so they are more familiar with the responses of the servers who answer for the people.
 
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