Pasenger Drinking

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Forget about legally or common sense:

Is it wrong morally for pasengers in a car to drink alcohol in the car and
not the Driver?
 
No way!

What makes you think it is?

The only thing is that possibly the driver feels left out or something…:rolleyes:
 
Forget about legally or common sense:

Is it wrong morally for pasengers in a car to drink alcohol in the car and
not the Driver?
Depends on what you mean by drinking alchohol.
Do you mean drinking one or two beers on the way home from work to relax a bit?
Or do you mean 8 or 10 beers so that your so drunk you might reach over and grab the wheel cause you think it’s funny?

In case number one, no it is not morally wrong.
In case number two, yes it is morally wrong.

Peace
James
 
at least one of the pasengers got drunk but the driver was in control
 
at least one of the pasengers got drunk but the driver was in control
Did the person know he was getting drunk? Was it intentional? Drinking to get drunk is a sin. Drinking to “make merry” is not.
 
Is the driver morally cuplable for allowing the other two passengers
to get drunk in his vehicle?
 
Is the driver morally cuplable for allowing the other two passengers to get drunk in his vehicle?
OK, I gotcha. I think the driver would be morally culpable if s/he is consciously enabling the passengers to get drunk. For example, if some friends call the driver up and say, “Hey, let’s all go for a drive tonight,” and the driver thinks that the friends are going to get drunk in his/her car, then the driver should do whatever s/he can to prevent that. It may mean saying, “No, I’m not interested, because last time you got drunk.” Or it may mean not letting them in the car if they are bringing alcohol along. Or it may mean driving them back home if they’re in the car already and start drinking too much.

The driver would not be morally culpable only if s/he was honestly surprised by the drinking and was unable to drop the passengers off. (For example, they’re coming home from a concert, and the passengers start getting drunk on the way home, while there’s still a long distance to go.) In that situation, the driver just has to end the situation as soon and as safely as possible and then take precautions to keep it from happening in the future.

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Forget about legally or common sense:

Is it wrong morally for pasengers in a car to drink alcohol in the car and
not the Driver?
You cannot deal with the morality without dealing with the legality. What is illegal (assuming that the law is not contrary to the law of God) is, by definition, immoral, since obedience to the laws of the land is part of Christian morality. Therefore, in those jurisdictions where having an open container of an alcoholic beverage in the car is illegal, for the passenger to drink would be illegal, and therefore also immoral.

DaveBj
 
what is the law in your state re open bottles? to break that law is a sin as well as a crime
 
Define drinking to “merriness”
It will vary from person to person.Will depend upon how long the drinking is going on. Drunkenness is clearly a sin but we are told we can drink and make merry to celebrate. For me more than one drink is pushing on toward drunkenness that’s how my body reacts to alcohol. For others several drinks over a few hours is not a problem. I guess making merry doesn’t go beyond feeling relaxed maybe a little flushed, warm, easy to laugh and make jokes- that kind of thing. Talking loudly, losing some judgment, lowered physical performance means you have drank too much.
 
You cannot deal with the morality without dealing with the legality. What is illegal (assuming that the law is not contrary to the law of God) is, by definition, immoral, since obedience to the laws of the land is part of Christian morality. Therefore, in those jurisdictions where having an open container of an alcoholic beverage in the car is illegal, for the passenger to drink would be illegal, and therefore also immoral.

DaveBj
As would allowing underage people to drink in your car.
 
It will vary from person to person.Will depend upon how long the drinking is going on. Drunkenness is clearly a sin but we are told we can drink and make merry to celebrate. For me more than one drink is pushing on toward drunkenness that’s how my body reacts to alcohol. For others several drinks over a few hours is not a problem. I guess making merry doesn’t go beyond feeling relaxed maybe a little flushed, warm, easy to laugh and make jokes- that kind of thing. Talking loudly, losing some judgment, lowered physical performance means you have drank too much.
Okay, thanks.
 
I disagree with the assertion the breaking
a civil law is always a sin. I don’t think going
70 in a 65 or even in a 55 is a sin. Jaywalking
is against the law but i don’t see it as a sin unless
you’re putting someone in danger. The are
examples of such laws that can be broken
w/o necessarily sinning, the drinking stuff aside.
 
If a civil law is something reasonable and is also intended to protect the lives of the people in that state, then breaking that law might very likely be a sin.
 
I disagree with the assertion the breaking
a civil law is always a sin. I don’t think going
70 in a 65 or even in a 55 is a sin. Jaywalking
is against the law but i don’t see it as a sin unless
you’re putting someone in danger. The are
examples of such laws that can be broken
w/o necessarily sinning, the drinking stuff aside.
It is a sin because by Catholic teaching we are required to obey any laws which are not in conflict with our morals. for instance, we are not required to obey laws that require us to contracept or abort children, or to participate in the contraception or abortion of children. We are, however, required to obey the speed limit and laws about street crossings since those are intended for not only our own safety but the safety of others.
 
It is a sin because by Catholic teaching we are required to obey any laws which are not in conflict with our morals. for instance, we are not required to obey laws that require us to contracept or abort children, or to participate in the contraception or abortion of children. We are, however, required to obey the speed limit and laws about street crossings since those are intended for not only our own safety but the safety of others.
Whoops, that’s what I was getting in my post above. Thanks for elaborating on it!
 
Depends on what you mean by drinking alchohol.
Do you mean drinking one or two beers on the way home from work to relax a bit?
Or do you mean 8 or 10 beers so that your so drunk you might reach over and grab the wheel cause you think it’s funny?

In case number one, no it is not morally wrong.
In case number two, yes it is morally wrong.

Peace
James
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It is a sin because by Catholic teaching we are required to obey any laws which are not in conflict with our morals. for instance, we are not required to obey laws that require us to contracept or abort children, or to participate in the contraception or abortion of children. We are, however, required to obey the speed limit and laws about street crossings since those are intended for not only our own safety but the safety of others.
Just out of curiosity, is this dogmatic teaching? Like, is this in the Catechism or something?

A link would be appreciated…
 
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