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Tradycja
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Does anyone know where I can find the text of this? I googled it but virtually nothing comes up. What does this service consist of? Is this a service that is unique to the Ukrainian Church?
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John_of_Patmos
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Tradycja
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Hi. The link you provided is about Pacha (Easter). I am talking about Pasia (Passion service) which is celebrated on Mondays of the Great Fast.
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John_of_Patmos
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Sorry, I thought you misspelled Pascha…me and my Roman ignorance
I looked too and just about nothing came up.
I hope this helps.
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The_Idiot
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Can’t give a link to the text BUT here’s a wee snippet about the Passia Service
It’s basically the Way of the Cross, but using texts from the service of the Twelve Gospels in Holy Week. It was put together by Metropolitan Peter Mohyla, so very much represents the Baroque period of Ukrainian spiritual life.
It’s basically the Way of the Cross, but using texts from the service of the Twelve Gospels in Holy Week. It was put together by Metropolitan Peter Mohyla, so very much represents the Baroque period of Ukrainian spiritual life.
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Vico
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“Of course the Pasija, which for Barsicyj was the norm, was a Ukrainian peculiarity unknown not only to the Greeks, but also to the other Orthodox peoples. This liturgical celebration was established in the first half of the seventeenth century under the Kievan metropolitan Peter Mohyla, for the first four Fridays of Great Lent, when in the evenings, selections were read from the account of the Passion in the four Gospels, accompanied by certain hymns. It was described in the Cvetnaja Trioa” [65] published in 1702."
- Цвітная тріодь (Moscow, 1591).
Alexander Grishin, Vasyl’ Hryhorovyc BarsTcyj: An Eighteenth-Century Ukrainian
Pilgrim in Italy in HARVARD UKRAINIAN STUDIES, Volume XVII, Number 1/2, June 1993, Ukrainian Research Institute of Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts, U.S.A., 1995, p. 22.
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rowlands
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For Orthodox/Russian practice, which may differ from the older and contemporary Ukrainian Catholic practice, see (particularly item no 8)
monachos.net/forum/showthread.php?5911-Passia-service
Please be aware that Monachos is an Orthodox forum.
The Passia service is held on the appropriate Sunday evenings at the Russian Patriarchal cathedral in London (UK).
monachos.net/forum/showthread.php?5911-Passia-service
Please be aware that Monachos is an Orthodox forum.
The Passia service is held on the appropriate Sunday evenings at the Russian Patriarchal cathedral in London (UK).
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rowlands
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Extracts from fourth Passia (St John), St Elias Russian Orthodox Monastery, Odessa. Begins at the sticheron ‘Thou who clothest thyself with light, as with a garment…’ (tone 5, Bulgarian melody) - the akathist appears to have been omitted from this video but is included in some other similar uploads.
youtube.com/watch?v=pH5A_skLCFQ&feature=related
Unfortunately there appear to be no videos of the Ukrainian Greek Catholic service - maybe someone with knowledge of Ukrainian could search in that language…
youtube.com/watch?v=pH5A_skLCFQ&feature=related
Unfortunately there appear to be no videos of the Ukrainian Greek Catholic service - maybe someone with knowledge of Ukrainian could search in that language…
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Volodymyr
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Пассия
This service part of evening divine service during) Great Fast is of course from Ukraina and has a strong Western Christian - Catholic/Lutheran influence. Such recitation of the “passions” from 4 Evangiles is very common in Lutheran church as all who love music of Joxan Bach will attest. This recitation of 4 accounts of “passia” which is Greco-Latin word for suffering was adopted in Ukraine and written into service book by Mitropolit Petro Mohila as a definite service. But now it is widespread in Ukraina and Russia also. But it is not a traditional orthodox service. Is probable better to think of Passia as Orthodox adapting a meaningful Western Catholic/Lutheran observance.
This service part of evening divine service during) Great Fast is of course from Ukraina and has a strong Western Christian - Catholic/Lutheran influence. Such recitation of the “passions” from 4 Evangiles is very common in Lutheran church as all who love music of Joxan Bach will attest. This recitation of 4 accounts of “passia” which is Greco-Latin word for suffering was adopted in Ukraine and written into service book by Mitropolit Petro Mohila as a definite service. But now it is widespread in Ukraina and Russia also. But it is not a traditional orthodox service. Is probable better to think of Passia as Orthodox adapting a meaningful Western Catholic/Lutheran observance.
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Alexander_Roman
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Excellent question!
The Passia services are specific to the Ukrainian and Russian Orthodox Churches - they are not held in the Ukrainian Catholic Church (I’ve heard of some UGCC priests serving them, but it isn’t the norm).
There is no reason why they could not be served in the UGCC but they are a service that was constructed by the Orthodox Saint Petro Mohyla (and there is no reason why the UGCC could not/should not liturgically venerate him either). Mohyla created numerous new services for use in his Metropolia which were largely borrowings from the West. (And there is nothing wrong with that, especially in his time when he struggled to prevent Orthodox aristocratic families from rejecting their Orthodox faith and culture to become Roman Catholic via the Jesuit schools.)
There are more than one version of the structure of the Passia services. Metropolitan Ilarion Ohienko (+memory eternal!) published his own version that is kept in the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of Canada. I have a copy of the Passia used in the UOC-KP which is quite well done.
In essence, after the formal prayers of introduction, the kontakion of Holy Thursday is sung three times (re: Judas and his love of money etc.). Then the two chapters dealing with the Passion of Christ in each Gospel are read (with each Gospel covered over the first four Fridays of the Great Fast/Lent). Either prior or after this, the Akathist to the Passion of Christ can be sung. In the usage of the UOCC, one may also sing the Canon of the Sorrowful Mother of God or the 17th kathisma as it is sung on Holy Saturday. There is also a sermon on the Passion of Christ.
There is also an Orthodox version of the western Way of the Cross that is sometimes included in the Passia service. The UOC-KP has one with 12 stations where the priest carries a Cross around the Church, then stops at certain points for a gospel reading and then blesses the people with the Cross before going on.
I know that Father Serge Keleher (+memory eternal!) sometimes served the Passia when he was in Toronto.
It is a beautiful service and I don’t know why the UGCC hasn’t adopted it.
Alex
The Passia services are specific to the Ukrainian and Russian Orthodox Churches - they are not held in the Ukrainian Catholic Church (I’ve heard of some UGCC priests serving them, but it isn’t the norm).
There is no reason why they could not be served in the UGCC but they are a service that was constructed by the Orthodox Saint Petro Mohyla (and there is no reason why the UGCC could not/should not liturgically venerate him either). Mohyla created numerous new services for use in his Metropolia which were largely borrowings from the West. (And there is nothing wrong with that, especially in his time when he struggled to prevent Orthodox aristocratic families from rejecting their Orthodox faith and culture to become Roman Catholic via the Jesuit schools.)
There are more than one version of the structure of the Passia services. Metropolitan Ilarion Ohienko (+memory eternal!) published his own version that is kept in the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of Canada. I have a copy of the Passia used in the UOC-KP which is quite well done.
In essence, after the formal prayers of introduction, the kontakion of Holy Thursday is sung three times (re: Judas and his love of money etc.). Then the two chapters dealing with the Passion of Christ in each Gospel are read (with each Gospel covered over the first four Fridays of the Great Fast/Lent). Either prior or after this, the Akathist to the Passion of Christ can be sung. In the usage of the UOCC, one may also sing the Canon of the Sorrowful Mother of God or the 17th kathisma as it is sung on Holy Saturday. There is also a sermon on the Passion of Christ.
There is also an Orthodox version of the western Way of the Cross that is sometimes included in the Passia service. The UOC-KP has one with 12 stations where the priest carries a Cross around the Church, then stops at certain points for a gospel reading and then blesses the people with the Cross before going on.
I know that Father Serge Keleher (+memory eternal!) sometimes served the Passia when he was in Toronto.
It is a beautiful service and I don’t know why the UGCC hasn’t adopted it.
Alex
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Volodymyr
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Пассия Страсти
Our mitropolit Ilarion Volokolamskiy has written such beautiful music for Matthew Passion but uses modern word Strast’ not Greek Passija. This was first performed quite not long ago. Very beautiful
Here is from You tube Blesseds from this work
youtube.com/watch?v=tnGEOpxkQlM
Our mitropolit Ilarion Volokolamskiy has written such beautiful music for Matthew Passion but uses modern word Strast’ not Greek Passija. This was first performed quite not long ago. Very beautiful
Here is from You tube Blesseds from this work
youtube.com/watch?v=tnGEOpxkQlM
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