Passing up receiving God "twice" by refusing the cup?

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Actually, historically the Chalice was more “avoided by” the laity than “not offered to the laity”.
Really? From what I’ve read of the Council of Constance, the concession of the Chalice to the laity was formally discontinued because of the utraquist heresy which taught that the laity must receive under both kinds under pain of sin. Basically, since it is entirely valid and licit for anyone other than the celebrant priest to receive only under the form of bread, the Church made it – for a time – illegal to administer Communion under both kinds as a means of detecting who held the mistaken opinion.

I understand in the first millenium, there was a problem with people avoiding the Chalice because of a different heresy, so for a time (perhaps only locally?) reception under both kinds was mandated!

From the Council of Constance, Session 13 (June 15, 1415)
Condemnation of communion under both kinds, recently revived among the Bohemians by Jakoubek of Stribro

In the name of the holy and undivided Trinity, Father and Son and holy Spirit, Amen. Certain people, in some parts of the world, have rashly dared to assert that the Christian people ought to receive the holy sacrament of the eucharist under the forms of both bread and wine. They communicate the laity everywhere not only under the form of bread but also under that of wine, and they stubbornly assert that they should communicate even after a meal, or else without the need of a fast, contrary to the church’s custom which has been laudably and sensibly approved, from the church’s head downwards, but which they damnably try to repudiate as sacrilegious.

Therefore this present general council of Constance, legitimately assembled in the holy Spirit, wishing to provide for the safety of the faithful against this error, after long deliberation by many persons learned in divine and human law, declares, decrees and defines that, although Christ instituted this venerable sacrament after a meal and ministered it to his apostles under the forms of both bread and wine, nevertheless and notwithstanding this, the praiseworthy authority of the sacred canons and the approved custom of the church have and do retain that this sacrament ought not to be celebrated after a meal nor received by the faithful without fasting, except in cases of sickness or some other necessity as permitted by law or by the church.

Moreover, just as this custom was sensibly introduced in order to avoid various dangers and scandals, so with similar or even greater reason was it possible to introduce and sensibly observe the custom that, although this sacrament was received by the faithful under both kinds in the early church, nevertheless later it was received under both kinds only by those confecting it, and by the laity only under the form of bread. For it should be very firmly believed, and in no way doubted, that the whole body and blood of Christ are truly contained under both the form of bread and the form of wine.

Therefore, since this custom was introduced for good reasons by the church and holy fathers, and has been observed for a very long time, it should be held as a law which nobody may repudiate or alter at will without the church’s permission. To say that the observance of this custom or law is sacrilegious or illicit must be regarded as erroneous. Those who stubbornly assert the opposite of the aforesaid are to be confined as heretics and severely punished by the local bishops or their officials or the inquisitors of heresy in the kingdoms or provinces in which anything is attempted or presumed against this decree, according to the canonical and legitimate sanctions that have been wisely established in favour of the catholic faith against heretics and their supporters.

That no priest, under pain of excommunication, may communicate the people under the forms of both bread and wine

This holy synod also decrees and declares, regarding this matter, that instructions are to be sent to the most reverend fathers and lords in Christ, patriarchs, primates, archbishops, bishops, and their vicars in spirituals, wherever they may be, in which they are to be commissioned and ordered on the authority of this sacred council and under pain of excommunication, to punish effectively those who err against this decree. They may receive back into the church’s fold those who have gone astray by communicating the people under the forms of both bread and wine, and have taught this, provided they repent and after a salutary penance, in accordance with the measure of their fault, has been enjoined upon them. They are to repress as heretics, however, by means of the church’s censures and even if necessary by calling in the help of the secular arm, those of them whose hearts have become hardened and who are unwilling to return to penance.
I don’t know the history of Communion under one species before the Council of Constance, but the Council says it had been practiced already for a long time. I know that Trent considered the re-concession of the Chalice, but did not make a ruling, putting it off to another occasion. Vatican II re-opened the door to the concession of the Chalice (although the situation we have today is considerably wider in scope than Vatican II envisioned).
 
Let me clarify - the person in no way feels slighted that she’s being passed by. Not at all. It’s just a perception on her part that people are not receiving as much of God as they could and she can’t understand why people would pass up the chance.
Then use this analogy. If the priest is running low on hosts because of a large crowd, and if he has to break into quarters the last few pieces and give the communicants a sliver, do they get less of Jesus? Of course not! In fact, if even a visible crumb is dropped we are to take and consume it as it still contains all that the large host does.

The type of poor theology evidenced here is the best argument for receiving only under one species. It is why the Church initiated that discipline once. If it becomes a problem, you can bet it will happen again.

If she can not wrap her head around the Church teaching in this regard, it would be better to find something else to do in the Church. This is not the job for the theologically skewed. That is a recipe for spreading bad theology.
 
Let me clarify - the person in no way feels slighted that she’s being passed by. Not at all. It’s just a perception on her part that people are not receiving as much of God as they could and she can’t understand why people would pass up the chance.
Thanks for the clarification. If she doesn’t feel slighted in the least then the problem is quite obvious. She does not fully understand what Holy Communion really is and further doesn’t fully understand what the Eucharist truly is. She feels as apparently do many that a double reception is better than a single one due to the quanity received being greater,. In fact, Many people believe that you have to receive under both species or the Communion is somehow less complete, less full. Didn’t receive as much as posible. I would think that Extraordinay Ministers should be well aware of the theology of the Eucharist which sad to say it appears many are not…

I would have thought that Extraordinary Ministers, beling laymen and women would be thouroughly trained in this particular area of theology just so such situations don’t arise and possible cause embarrasment or worse…
 
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