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TrueLight
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Praise the Lord. He has a wide audience.
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sedonaman
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Why did he support øbama? Was he not listening when candidate øbama dropped his bombshell?
lifesitenews.com/news/archive/ldn/2008/jun/08061010
lifesitenews.com/news/archive/ldn/2008/jun/08061010
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Cat
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Rick Warren didn’t support Pres. Obama. Warren was invited to give the invocation at Pres. Obama’s inauguration, and he accepted the invitation.
I personally believe it would be ungracious to refuse a personal invitation from the President-elect of the United States of America, as long as the invitation is not to do something wrong. Saying a prayer is not wrong.
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sedonaman
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His participation in the proceedings strongly conveys a message of support, more than Notre Dame giving øbama a platform implies support for his abortion position. If he didn’t want people to be confused, the reverend should have declined, unless he did support him, in which case the correct conclusion could be drawn.
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MartinJordan
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Im no fan of Rick but any God fearing person against the ruling is better help than no help at all. Prayers are working.
Remember Most Gracious Virgin Mary…
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Remember Most Gracious Virgin Mary…
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Calgar
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Kind of like voting for him?
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Anna_Scott
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Calgar,
I don’t understand what you are trying to say. The article lists a number of Christian leaders speaking out against the mandate.
What issue do you have with rick Warren?
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sedonaman
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But they didn’t speak at øbama’s inauguration.
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Calgar
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None at all.
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sedonaman
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Look, a big deal is made out of a politician who flip-flops. Similarly, Warren’s efforts are a lot less credible than they would have been had he not created the impression of supporting øbama in the first place, which is my whole point. This is not to say his comment is without merit.
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mary_bobo
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I think a lot of people are having buyer’s remorse. Most won’t admit it, but this administration is not doing what the voter had hoped for. Of course, Obama and his team were pretty good at disguising what their real agenda was and far too many people who vote have no idea what they are voting for. They do not understand economics and they make no effort to find out what is in the background of a candidate who spews such soaring rhetoric.
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ltwin
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Weren’t many Catholic bishops supporters of Obamacare at first???
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sedonaman
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What did the voter hope for? Like “Free to choose” [Choose what?], “Hope and change” were left open-ended [Hope for what? Change what?] so the voter could fill in his own desires. But øbama made one thing crystal clear in his campaign: he said he was going to “fundamentally change the way this country works.” Anyone with an IQ above room temperature [to borrow a quote] should have been able to figure out that to “fundamentally change the way the country works” would require scrapping the fundamental [founding] documents, i.e., the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the Declaration of Independence … and starting over from scratch, which is what he is doing. In the thread, “Guarantee free exercise of religion; Obama says no way,” poster Pfaffenhoffen wrote in post #37, “After a brilliant demagogue speech, an old lady, friend of mine, came and said: “Oh! He spoke so well!” And I asked: “What did he say!?]" And the respectably old lady replied: “Son! I do not know! But he spoke so well!”
So there you have it.
Then you have to address the question of whether or not øbama is even capable of doing [much less wants] what the voter “hoped” for. Given his prior non-record, answering that question is a no-brainer.
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Calgar
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So what do you make of the 54% of voting catholics that voted for Obama?
That’s what I was refering to in my previous post.
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sedonaman
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I think they ignored the bishops, but what does that 54% have to do with Warren?
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sedonaman
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As I recall, they were opposed to the original bill because it included abortions, but supported it after øbama agreed to change it so that no government money would fund abortions. It should be intuitively obvious to the most casual observer that it was an empty promise because now the bishops are fighting a rear-guard action, trying to keep it from being imposed on them through the rules that govern Catholic employee benefits. Once that hurdle is overcome, øbama will be free to put abortions back into his healthcare bill. Thus, “Lucy” will have jerked the “football” away from “Charlie Brown” one more time.
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57Bill
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the OP’s topic statement does show that there is support from other faiths that are not at all “happy” or complacent with this part of obamacare.
If the Federal government can make this into law. Imagine what else they are capable of??
…maybe a Christian tax? much like the Jews had a special tax levied on them by the Roman Empire, so they could continue their faith in the one true God and not many false gods.
If the Federal government can make this into law. Imagine what else they are capable of??
…maybe a Christian tax? much like the Jews had a special tax levied on them by the Roman Empire, so they could continue their faith in the one true God and not many false gods.
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sedonaman
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The people don’t realize the precarious position they are in. Someone like øbama can order his czars to write a regulation that has the force of law, and it gets done ASAP. There is nothing we can do about it short of mustering a fortune to hire the best legal minds to fight it out all the way up to, and including, a hostile Supreme Court.
IOW, make us all into good little dhimmis.
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