Pastor Steven Anderson?

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Has anyone seen this guy? He’s an Independent Fundamentalist Baptist Pastor at “Faithful Word Baptist Church” in Phoenix Tempe, AZ, and for some reason he has become popular among some in the alt-right. He holds to the typical Fundamentalist Baptist doctrines like:
  • KJV Onlyism
  • Baptist Bride Theology/Landmarkism (think of the “Trail of Blood” book)
  • Strong Congregational polity/Local Church
  • Literal Young Earth Creationism
  • Biblical Literalism
  • Free Grace Theology
  • Once Saved Always Saved
  • Rejection of Infant Baptism
  • Rejection of Baptism being necessary for salvation
  • Anti-Catholicism
  • Dressing very modestly all the time
  • Very strong patriotism
Interestingly, he rejects Dispensationalism (the rapture and such), which is the one thing that makes him stand out from other Fundamentalist. He’s also a tad bit antisemitic, and is a holocaust denier. This is probably why the alt-right has taken some favor to him, despite him denouncing the alt-right as racist. He has said some very questionable things in the past though. He prayed for the death of Barack Obama when he was in office, and even said that homosexuality is the only sin God will not forgive and that all those with same sex attraction should kill themselves. Again, he is very anti-Catholic, but I don’t think he’s “whore of Babylon” level anti-Catholic, though he does regard Catholicism as Satanic. He also considers many Protestant denominations as Satanic including Lutherans and Anglicans, though he has shown willingness to work with low church Presbyterians and Methodist, even though he considers their teachings to be a corruption of the Gospel. He’s been shown to be a bit of an obnoxious jerk to those who disagree with him, and even will attack and insult them.

With all that said, could this man really be called a Christian? Could he really give valid baptism even with all the hateful things he holds on his heart? I know Baptist are generally considered to be Christians but… he just seems so hateful and irrational… He’s like running another Westboro Baptist in some respects…

Anyway, here’s his YouTube channel for those who don’t know:

https://www.youtube.com/user/sanderson1611

And his website:

http://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/
 
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I mean literal young earth creationism, which Catholics do not have to accept, and most probably do not accept.
 
IF you do believe in creation ex nihilo (all at once) then respect to you for actually being faithful to the teachings of your church. Most Catholics I know of are willing to compromise their beliefs, because they’re so influenced by the post modern world. Some will probably come along and give the excuse that the link I posted isn’t the Magisterium itself (regardless of what’s actually being cited).
 
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What are you even going on about? Please don’t go off topic.
 
So your question was if some hateful Protestant can be considered a Christian. Well, since Protestantism itself is considered a heresy in your church, why is this particular man of so much concern that you need to ask others online?
 
Because this man and his church has been labeled as a hate group. Their ultra-Fundamentalism is even beyond some of the other fire and brimstone Independent Fundamental Baptist.
 
Wow, I looked at his video on the presentation of the channel. Just what I noticed, is that he says in order to be saved you have to do all that Jesus said otherwise he will say to you “I never knew you” and he also said that few will be saved, not many. So Steven Anderson says this, and then he also says Jesus never told us to get baptized.
Ah, but he forgets another thing Jesus also said, and what He said is commandment to us all to follow Him? How do we follow him? By walking in his steps.He said so “those who wish to follow me, give their own selves up, and get your crosses and follow me.” One of the things Jesus himself did, he went down to John the Baptist and asked him to baptize him, and St. John said “no I am not worthy enough”, and Jesus insisted, and St. John did it. Jesus got baptized. Must we not follow Him in this? Where does it say so in the Bible Steven Anderson like most protestants claim to be expert of.
So no surprise that someone who thinks himself above the will and self of Christ, is so eaten up by the strong demon of pride that he does and says all the things you described about him in your post.
 
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He contradicts himself on a lot of points so this is no surprise to me. He has a video preaching on the importance of baptism and the great commission too.
 
Ex nihilo does not mean all at one, it means from nothing. That means Gd is the first cause of creation. Catholics believe Gd was the first cause. How this came about after at any point after t > 0 then that is left to science. Jews and Catholics read genesis as an allegorical truth. So this must be kept in mind. The books of the bible have their own genre and our Catholic/Jewish tradition tells up how to read each book. Protestants are indeed a heresy. It was condemned by Church councils.

Many Protestant who reject tradition are forced to take the bible literally. This is one of the consequences of rejecting tradition. Remember those who wrote the bible are the ones who get to interpret it. The bible is a Catholic and Jewish book. Not one protestant was consulted when WE put the bible together.
 
Anderson is a crazy guy… if you want to see one of the greatest insanity watch pseudo-Dr, James White take on Steven Anderson on the KJV bible. He is into hard preaching… at least he gives assent to the Trinity.
 
I know it means ‘from nothing’, by all at once, I was negating ‘progressive creation’ and ‘theistic evolution’. As for Catholics reading Genesis in an allegorical manner, that’s exactly the post modernism I was talking about. You didn’t actually go to the link I posted, did you?

When you actually do so, keep in mind Session 3, Canon 4, of the First Vatican Council:
  1. If anyone says that human studies are to be treated with such a degree of liberty that their assertions may be maintained as true even when they are opposed to divine revelation, and that they may not be forbidden by the Church: let him be anathema.
  2. If anyone says that it is possible that at some time, given the advancement of knowledge, a sense may be assigned to the dogmas propounded by the Church which is different from that which the Church has understood and understands: let him be anathema.
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That’s all I’ll say on the matter, since the OP may get upset about going off topic.
 
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Yeah, but does his ultra-Fundamentalism corrupt his intent?
 
You should pray for his salvation. He’s nothing like the Baptists I grew up as a part of and he’s nothing like the Adventist I am now a part of or the Catholics in my family. To gloat over your assessment of another’s lost condition and display pleasure in the assumed hellish perishing of those who don’t agree with your malformed doctrines is not a spiritual gift of the HS. Turn him off, read your Bible!
 
Technically all heretical baptisms when performed with the correct form and matter with the correct intention - induction into Christanity is valid. It appears that Anderson’s baptisms are valid. However, given baptists understanding of baptism, and not knowing the individual intent of the pastors, it is best to have a conditional baptism performed, A major problem among baptists, especially among independent baptists and more especially among some KJV onlyists is that they do not accept the Trinity. This is an absolutely creedal belief. It is time that the Catholic Church revisit the validity of the Baptists’ baptisms. The whole baptist movement is problematic in the are of Trinitarian belief.
 
A major problem among baptists, especially among independent baptists and more especially among some KJV onlyists is that they do not accept the Trinity.
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That seems blatantly false. All Baptist groups, including KJV only Independent Baptist, accept the Trinity. I have never heard of nor ever seen a non-Trinitarian Baptist, and all Baptist groups (including the Independents) proclaim the doctrine of the Trinity. I am sure you get a few Pastors here and there who reject the doctrine, but very few do. I think you’re thinking of Pentecostals. You may also be thinking of Anabaptists who are different from Baptists.
 
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If he holds to the doctrine of the Trinity and baptizes in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit (which I will assume he mostly likely does), then the baptism is valid.

His church assembly is very small, possibly fewer than 100 people. His name is mildly well-known because of his internet presence, primarily his YouTube channel with videos of his often-outrageous sermons.
 
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Technically all heretical baptisms when performed with the correct form and matter with the correct intention - induction into Christanity is valid. It appears that Anderson’s baptisms are valid. However, given baptists understanding of baptism, and not knowing the individual intent of the pastors, it is best to have a conditional baptism performed, A major problem among baptists, especially among independent baptists and more especially among some KJV onlyists is that they do not accept the Trinity. This is an absolutely creedal belief. It is time that the Catholic Church revisit the validity of the Baptists’ baptisms. The whole baptist movement is problematic in the are of Trinitarian belief.
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I have never heard of Baptists who do not accept the Trinity, although I am sure it is possible there are a few, given that they are a collection of individual, independent churches rather than a full denomination.

But I agree that when people baptized in these types of assemblies wish to enter the Catholic Church, extra care should be taken to look into their baptisms. Because they have a different understanding of baptism, some may not be careful to use the Trinitarian formula when baptizing. A couple of years ago, an Evangelical protestant friend of mine posted a video on Facebook of her son’s baptism. I watched/listened to the video, and I am certain (sadly) that the minister did not say, “in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.” And this was a denomination that believes in the Trinity, too.
 
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