Pat Robertson says Alzheimers makes divorce OK.

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Zooey said:
:eek:I guess maybe he missed the part about “in sickness and in health”…:rolleyes:
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jediliz said:
guess in Pat’s sect of Christianity, there’s no vow that says in SICKNESS and in Health.

Alzheimers is NOT death…it is a devastating illness and those who actually take care of their loved ones who have this disease, are to be commended.
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And don’t forget “for better or for worse.” Till “a kind of death” do us part because you’re a burden. Ridiculous.

Incidentally I’m currently going through Madeleine Albright’s book The Mighty and Almighty. She pointed out that Bin Laden thought God designed 9/11… and Robertson and Falwell apparently agreed that it was God plan.

Fundamentalism at its best, folks.
 
Hopefully this will make a few people run, not walk, to their nearest Catholic church. What do you expect when anyone can make themselves a pastor, accountable to no one, and teach people their mere opinions?
 
Watching Pat Robertson or paying attention to what he has to say is a total waste of time, the same goes for Dr. Phil and the goddess of many paths to God Oprah.
 
My wife makes strange noises, and can’t remember to do all sorts of things. Should I divorce her then, Pat? She’s sort of dead I guess. I guess that since she’s dead I’ll just leave and never come back… no need to tell anyone because she’s already dead. Does this mean she’s a zombie?:eek:
 
My own problem with this (and my own mother died of Alzheimers) is the wedding vows we all generally make. How does Robertson, a Baptist Christian justify setting aside these vows?
I, (name), take you (name), to be my (wife/husband), to have and to hold from this day forward, for better or for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish; from this day forward until death do us part.
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Furthermore, there is absolutely no scriptural basis for such thinking. Just like Sola Scriptura, it’s not found anywhere in the Bible.

This is situation ethics at its worst and scandalous coming from a professing Christian in any sort of pastoral position.
 
I’m curious, does anyone happen to know what Robertson’s take on the Schiavo thing was?

It had a similar dimension, because Schiavo was comatose and her husband had a girlfriend.

Since it was such a prominent national story, did Robertson comment on it? I read that he called it “judicial murder” but is there anything he might have said that more directly addressed the husband-leaving-spouse thing?
 
PazzoGrande said:
I’m curious, does anyone happen to know what Robertson’s take on the Schiavo thing was?

It had a similar dimension, because Schiavo was comatose and her husband had a girlfriend.

Since it was such a prominent national story, did Robertson comment on it? I read that he called it “judicial murder” but is there anything he might have said that more directly addressed the husband-leaving-spouse thing?
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A quick Google search turned up this:

cbsnews.com/2316-100_162-684354-7.html
time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1864940_1864939_1864901,00.html

It appears Mr. Robertson was opposed to starving her to death.

Edit: Opps, you already knew the information I posted… I didn’t read the last sentence in your post.

No, I don’t know of any statements Mr. Robertson made about her then husband divorcing her under those circumstances.
 
PazzoGrande said:
I’m curious, does anyone happen to know what Robertson’s take on the Schiavo thing was?

It had a similar dimension, because Schiavo was comatose and her husband had a girlfriend.

Since it was such a prominent national story, did Robertson comment on it? I read that he called it “judicial murder” but is there anything he might have said that more directly addressed the husband-leaving-spouse thing?
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Well if Brother Pat was consistent this would have been another “kind of death.”

Is schizophrenia a “kind of death”
How about traumatic brain injury?
Severe stroke?
I guess the list could get pretty long. . . .

I knew a man whose wife had significant Alzheimers and didn’t recognize him any more. In her long term care facility she began a kind of relationship with another patient there and he didn’t divorce his wife.

It’s just not right.
 
Regarding divorce, it is this sort of thinking that Jesus advocated against. We are not to “put away” our spouse. To leave a spouse due to the hardness of one’s heart is not what God desires.
 
Yeah see that’s the thing with sin. People do wrong and always say it’s okay because of special circumstances.

I’ll kill you because you did something horrendous to me – special circumstances
I’ll abort this child because I can’t afford it – special circumstances
I’ll invade your country even though you weren’t a real threat to mine and ignore the just war principles-- special circumstances

I’ll divorce you and abandon you – special circumstances

I don’t think God likes it when we make up excuses.
 
Not that I agree with Robertson’s idea, but there might be a legal reason justifying divorce in this case. As we have seen with Social Security, there are elderly couples co-habitating so they qualify for more benefits. There might be a similar reason here. Remember, divorce does not wipe out Catholic marriages.
 
FONT=“Comic Sans MS”]I am absolutely FURIOUS about this!! I am a nurse who works in a dementia/alzheimer’s unit. I have seen this first hand multiple times. It is NEVER OK to just dump the person you commited your entire life to because they have a disease!!
Alzheimer’s is a disease. Just like cancer. Would you divorce your spouse if they had cancer because they could no longer fulfill the total marital role? You would be surprized how many people do this.
You know, just because they may not appear to recognize anyone, they still do. Even through the tears and hitting and complaining they are still there.
NO ONE CHOOSES DEMENTIA. It is not their fault. Don’t treat them like they have done this on purpose.
 
This is one step removed from assisted suicide, only the spouse has the right to do it to get rid of their burden.

“Oh, Honeyyyyy. Can you come here… You’ve been forgetting a lot of things lately… Let me help you with that. BANGGGGG! Ring ring, hey, Susie, I’m available now.”
 
hn160 said:
Watching Pat Robertson or paying attention to what he has to say is a total waste of time, the same goes for Dr. Phil and the goddess of many paths to God Oprah.
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That’s why I watch The View.😃
 
Church_Militant said:
My own problem with this (and my own mother died of Alzheimers) is the wedding vows we all generally make. How does Robertson, a Baptist Christian justify setting aside these vows?Furthermore, there is absolutely no scriptural basis for such thinking. Just like Sola Scriptura, it’s not found anywhere in the Bible.

This is situation ethics at its worst and scandalous coming from a professing Christian in any sort of pastoral position.
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I think Robertson is a fraud, but this is like beating a dead horse.

Let me play devil’s advocate for a minute (THESE ARE NOT MY VIEWS);

The wedding vows you quoted are not Biblical, can you quote where they appear by book, chapter and verse?​

OK, that’s the only possible thing I think he could come up with. The really distressful thing aside from what he’s saying about marriage, is that he seems to be saying people who suffer from Alzheimer’s are some type of zombies or non-humans.
 
We should all cut Brother Pat a break… After all, he is getting along in years. Maybe he just had a “senior moment”… Hmmmm… If he’s married his wife may want to dump him and pick out a younger model. 🙂 Apparently it’s ok in thier “church”

God bless
 
Pat Robertson says a lot of things. Anyone remember his claim that he can leg press two TONS thanks to his “Age-Defying energy shake”? No one should ever take this guy seriously.
 
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