Patron Saint Of The Not So Bright

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I’ve always wanted to defend the faith and have read and read and read. My problem is that processing, assimilating, and accessing the information is some times difficult. What do you recommend for someone who is not quick of wit, is slow to process, and is not eloquent of speech but really really really wants to be able to defend the faith? Who would be a good patron saint for someone like me?
 
Quaere_Verum said:
I’ve always wanted to defend the faith and have read and read and read. My problem is that processing and accessing the information is some times difficult. What do you recommend for someone who is not quick of wit, is slow to process, and is not eloquent of speech but really really really wants to be able to defend the faith? Who would be a good patron saint for me?
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Others might disagree with me, but I would say Augustine of Hippo! But maybe I’m just telling you that because he is my favourite saint. Saint John Chrysostom could be another. I think Chrysostom means “Golden-mouthed”.
 
Interesting choices! I was thinking more in line with a saint who was not so bright themselves yet showed a devotion that was beyond measure such as St. Joseph of Cupertino or St. Bernadette. I like your choices, however, of saints who were intellectuals and eloquent speakers as well.
 
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Interesting choices! I was thinking more in line with a saint who was not so bright themselves yet showed a devotion that was beyond measure such as St. Joseph of Cupertino or St. Bernadette. I like your choices, however, of saints who were intellectuals and eloquent speakers as well.
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How about St. John Vianney, the Cure of Ars? He was a miserable student in seminary who specialized primarily in flunking his exams; everybody thought he was a complete moron. But imagine if every priest was as big a moron as he was: hell would have to file for Chapter 11.
 
I like St Joseph of Cupertino, but I think St Thomas Aquinas is a good choice too - he was actually called ‘the Dumb Ox’ because he didn’t speak much in class. His teacher said ‘one day the bellowing of this ox will be heard throughout the world!’ and so it was 😃

Perhaps you could follow his example and concentrate on writing more than speaking? Writing gives you leisure to work on what you’re communicating in a way that speech doesn’t. I know for myself, for example, I’m probably a much better writer than a speaker.

Apparently he would take whatever he wrote and lay it at the foot of the Cross in his chapel overnight before sending it off for others to read 😃 Prayer before you do any speaking or writing (and after as well of course) is always a good idea 👍
 
Quaere_Verum said:
I’ve always wanted to defend the faith and have read and read and read. My problem is that processing, assimilating, and accessing the information is some times difficult. What do you recommend for someone who is not quick of wit, is slow to process, and is not eloquent of speech but really really really wants to be able to defend the faith? Who would be a good patron saint for someone like me?
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No suggestions (you’ve gotten some good ones already), but just remember:

Exodus 4:10-11 - "Then Moses said to the LORD, ‘Please, Lord, I have never been eloquent, neither recently nor in time past, nor since You have spoken to Your servant; for I am slow of speech and slow of tongue.’

“The LORD said to him, ‘Who has made man’s mouth? Or who makes {him} mute or deaf, or seeing or blind? Is it not I, the LORD?’”

If Moses can do it with God’s help, then so can you! 🙂
 
The Cure d’Ars failed his seminary exams and only passed with the help of Our Lady when she told him which questions would be on the test. But he was one of the wisest and most eloquent and grace filled priests ever.
 
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The Cure d’Ars failed his seminary exams and only passed with the help of Our Lady when she told him which questions would be on the test. But he was one of the wisest and most eloquent and grace filled priests ever.
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I didn’t know this! Well, she must have been the one who helped me pass the bar by making sure the proctor threw out the essay questions I wouldn’t have been able to answer!
 
Check out Fr. Solanus Casey… not yet a saint, but declared “Venerable” I think… people doubted his intelligence, so much so that he was not allowed to hear confessions… he was humble and never complained about this, and God granted him supernatural knowledge and wisdom…
 
? St .Faustina of Divien Mercy, and the first saint of this millenium ; had only 3rd grade education ( seemingly only from circumstances ) , yet wrote the well loved
diary’ Divine Mercy , in my soul ’ (spelling mistakes and all ) and as was foretold by our Lord , mistaken and prohibited for a while till the correct reading was understood …

Also , St. Juan Diego - the humble peasant of Mexico, to whom our Bl. Mother appeard…and (along with our Bl. Mother the seat of wisdom 🙂 - he too could be a patron for the cause of life, for parents who in foolishness, choose to destroy life and along with it all trust in God …

St. John the Evangelist - for being in one sense , a ’ fool for Christ’ that having been the youngest of the disciples , and thus having been able to recognise and recieve the mighty Father Love that our Lord came to incarnate, he was the beloved disciple …and chose to be or returned to the foot of The Cross, disregarding any danger for self …thus could he not be the one to intercede for the foolish of the world, who choose to lust after or seduce other men, to fill their deep seated need for Father Love or resentmens for their mothers which manifest in hatred towards women …The Church…and thus to be an agent of the evil one , by thier blatant support of all against the sacredness of life …or the glory of man as the image of The Father .

And then ofcourse our Bl. Mother …who was there for the poor groom who let the wine ran out …🙂

May our Father be glorified , in all His saints …who love us so and yearn to help us …
Happy Feast of All saints!
 
I like the suggestions of St. Bernadette and Moses. I would also add St. Therese of Lisieux. She had only a grade-school education, yet became a Doctor of the Church for her expression of the “Little Way”, the understanding that God calls you as you, and that even if all you can offer up is a basket of flowers, if that is what God has made you for and you do it for God then you are serving in a very saintly way 😃

catholic-forum.com/saints/saintt02.htm

littleflower.org/

She’s among my favorite saints, and there’s a shrine to her at my church (picture below) 👍

http://www.blessed-sacrament.org/brickwork/statues/littleflower2.jpg

Peace and God bless!
 
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