Patterns of Evidence: EXODUS

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I saw Patterns of Evidence: Moses Controversy last night which led me to doing some reading.

The last documentary Timothy Mahoney made was Patterns of Evidence: Exodus, which I haven’t seen. Here is some info about it:


It seems that in the Exodus film, they concluded the Exodus occurred in 1450 BC instead of 1250 BC, which is what most archaeologists accept. Does this change in dates contradict the Bible or is it Biblically accurate?

BTW, Moses was really a good (but long) film.
 
I don’t think it really contradicts the Bible. The film highlights the fact that the only references from the book of Exodus that link us to a 1250 date is the mention of the city of Ramses as one of the store cities that the Israelites built. That being said, this could be an anachronistic reference to Avaris, or as was often the case in the ancient world, the city could have had several titles (e.g., Jerusalem was also known as Salem, Jebus, etc.). At one time I actually laid out the Biblical timeline using the figures in the Bible starting at the fall of Jerusalem and working backward, and to me the 1550-1450 BCE timeline proposed by the makers of Patterns of Evidence: Exodus actually makes much more sense. Also, that would put the movement into Egypt by the Israelites somewhere between 1900-1800 BCE timeline which makes it roughly contemporary with the Hyksos invasion, and the exodus roughly contemporary with the Hyksos expulsion from Egypt. This makes much more historical sense than the theory that Ramses is the pharaoh of the Exodus.
 
Hope please show me where in the Bible, Exodus is given a date
 
To my knowledge it doesn’t. I’m just going by what the movie says.
 
It is a movie, please do not allow a hollywood type movie to sway your faith and have you question the Bible as
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So we can still trust the Bible?
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I have been following your posts. Which denomination did you decide to attend in the end?
 
The Exodus movie was great, IMHO. I’m not sure what problem Akin has with Rohl, though. I’d like to know more.
 
Still haven’t decided. Went to Lutheran LCMS for awhile, but they believe in a young earth/universe and I don’t, so that’s kind of a dealbreaker. I’m taking a class there starting on Monday about God and science, so we’ll see.

I’ve also been still checking out that ND church, and another ND church.
 
Hope, that guy is a blogger. He is a mathematician. It doesn’t make him expert in documentaries.

I would be very wary of bloggers.

This guy states on his blog
‘‘The literal truth of Scripture is my bedrock. Genesis 1-11 is the essential foundation for the rest of the Bible. It unambiguously teaches the Creation of the universe in 6 regular days about 6,000 years ago.’’

You have stated
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but they believe in a young earth/universe and I don’t, so that’s kind of a dealbreaker.
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this blogger is also a young earther it seems.
 
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Hope, that guy is a blogger. He is a mathematician. It doesn’t make him expert in documentaries.

I would be very wary of bloggers.

This guy states on his blog
‘‘The literal truth of Scripture is my bedrock. Genesis 1-11 is the essential foundation for the rest of the Bible. It unambiguously teaches the Creation of the universe in 6 regular days about 6,000 years ago.’’

You have stated

Hope1960:
but they believe in a young earth/universe and I don’t, so that’s kind of a dealbreaker.
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I’ve read all kinds of things about young earth views including that if we don’t believe that the earth is young, how can you believe any of the Bible? Yet Catholicism teaches that we’re free to believe in a young or an old earth. Is that one of the reasons we need the Catholic Church? To guide is through the Bible, books that are difficult to interpret on our own?
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You hit on an important point. That’s one reason private interpretation is difficult or problematic.

The Magesterium is Necessary (with a capital N) for the authority through the Spirit. Mother Church guides us to the correct understanding.

That’s one reason different “denominations” come to somewhat different beliefs. Nothing authoritative guides them, and if they misinterpret what The Spirit is really saying, so there’s no recovery mechanism.
 
Maybe we could carbon date the top of this mountain.

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To see if it is truly the mountain God gave Moses the 10 Commandments and correlate the dating.
 
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To see if it is truly the mountain God gave Moses the 10 Commandments and correlate the dating.
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Carbon dating won’t show whether it’s the same mountain. I’m not even sure it can be carbon dated accurately. I’ve been researching carbon dating methods and from what I read and heard, they’re unreliable.
What do you say?
 
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