Paul and bodily ressurection

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A friend asserts that Paul did not believe in the bodily ressurection of Jesus and that Paul’s writings do not specifically reflect any such thing.

Althoug I do not believe with my friend, admittedly a coherent case can be made either way when reading 1 Cor 15.
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A friend asserts that Paul did not believe in the bodily ressurection of Jesus and that Paul’s writings do not specifically reflect any such thing.

Althoug I do not believe with my friend, admittedly a coherent case can be made either way when reading 1 Cor 15.
Thoughts?
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[12]Now if Christ is preached as raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead?
[13] But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christ has not been raised;
[14] if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is in vain and your faith is in vain.
[15] We are even found to be misrepresenting God, because we testified of God that he raised Christ, whom he did not raise if it is true that the dead are not raised.
[16] For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised.
[17] If Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile and you are still in your sins.
[18] Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished.
[19] If for this life only we have hoped in Christ, we are of all men most to be pitied.
[20]But in fact Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who have fallen asleep.

St Paul is clearly talking about the bodily resurrection of Jesus here. To suggest otherwise is nothing more than a pure absurdity and signs of mental instability.
 
goout said:
A friend asserts that Paul did not believe in the bodily ressurection of Jesus and that Paul’s writings do not specifically reflect any such thing.

Althoug I do not believe with my friend, admittedly a coherent case can be made either way when reading 1 Cor 15.
Thoughts?
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Hi, Goout!

…the problem is that when we base our understanding of Scriptures on a single passage/verse/chapter… we tend to make swiss cheese of God’s Revelation… the more holes we encounter the less complete understanding of God’s Word…

St. Paul is speaking of two distinct elements: a) Christ’s Resurrection is the assurance of our Resurrection, and b) the Resurrection of humanity will consist of several facets: 1) Christ, first, 2) those who Believed in Christ, second, 3) then all others, 4) there will be a change (mortality to immortality), 5) there will be differences among the risen as not all will change into un incorrupt body (a body of righteousness), 6) those that have died (or are found alive during the event) in Christ will join Christ in Heaven.

So there is a difference between Christ’s Resurrection and the Resurrection of man.

Christ’s Resurrection ushered in God’s Salvific Plan’s final stage: Judgment…

Man’s Resurrection will witness (be part of) Judgment.

Here’s the swiss-cheese effect: if Christ did not Resurrect in a body similar to ours, how did He eat and drink while amongst His Disciples?

True, Christ’s body was a Glorified Body… but it had particular elements in common with the human body: a) it was visible, as in the same physical entity known to Christ’s Followers, b) it was palpable, c) it was able to communicate in human speech, d) it was able to consume food and drink, e) it was earth bound (walk, sit, stand, do manual labor…); it was also earth bound in that it spent time amongst His Disciples and other Believers before Ascending into Heaven.

…more of the swiss-cheese effect?

Where did St. Paul state that Jesus Resurrected in an incorrupt body or that Jesus’ body was fully spiritual and appearing only as energy/spirit?

Further, the change that will come to us (incorruptibility) could not have taken place with Christ since He is from Above (already incorruptible)–one would have to extrapolate that Christ did not have a human body after all since this particular change would not take place… but Scriptures have already deem that as a sign of the anti-Christ–all who hold that the Word did not come in the flesh is an anti-Christ!

Reading Scriptures in a vacuum (outside of the totality of Scriptures) causes all sorts of erroneous interpretations–it could well lead to heresy!

Maran atha!

Angel
 
goout said:
A friend asserts that Paul did not believe in the bodily ressurection of Jesus and that Paul’s writings do not specifically reflect any such thing.

Althoug I do not believe with my friend, admittedly a coherent case can be made either way when reading 1 Cor 15.
Thoughts?
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Paul obviously believes Jesus has a physical body

1 Corinthians 10:16 “The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ?”

Romans 8:11 “If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will give life to your mortal bodies also through his Spirit who dwells in you”
 
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