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Nicholas_II
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Quotations from two different articles here…
Pontifical Preacher Speaks on Christ Crucified
VATICAN CITY, APRIL 7, 2006 (Zenit.org).-
"…In a strongly contemplative tone, the Capuchin invited his listeners to go to Calvary and enter “the passion of Jesus’ soul,” which is “much more painful than that of the body,” unveiling, one by one, all the elements that came together in it.
The meditation ranged from the “solitude” Christ endured, which "reached its culmination on the cross when, in his humanity, he felt abandoned even by the Father, to the “humiliation and contempt” that surrounded him.
“But the passion of the Savior’s soul has an even more profound cause,” he said. “In Gethsemane he prayed for the cup to be removed from him. The image of the cup almost always evokes in the Bible the idea of God’s wrath against sin.”
And as Jesus is burdened with all the ungodliness of the world, to the extent that, as St. Paul writes, he is the man “made to be sin,” “it is against him that the wrath of God ‘is revealed,’” said Father Cantalamessa.
“The infinite attraction existing from eternity between the Father and the Son is now run through by an equally infinite repulsion between the holiness of God and the malice of sin, and this is ‘to drink the cup,’” said the Pontifical Household preacher in the Redemptoris Mater Chapel of the Apostolic Palace.
…"
Father Cantalamessa on Christ’s Suffering
3rd Lenten Sermon Given to Pontifical Household
VATICAN CITY, APRIL 7, 2006 (ZENIT.org).-
"…
But the passion of the Savior’s soul has an even deeper cause than solitude and humiliation. In Gethsemane he prays that the cup be removed from him (cf. Mark 14:36). In the Bible, the image of the cup evokes almost always the idea of the wrath of God against sin (cf. Isaiah 51:22; Psalm 75:9; Revelation 14:10).
At the beginning of the letter, St. Paul establishes a fact which has the value of a universal principle: “The wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness” (Romans 1:18). Where there is sin, one cannot fail to note the judgment of God against it, otherwise God would compromise with sin and the distinction itself between good and evil would fail. God’s wrath is the same thing as his holiness. Now, Jesus in Gethsemane is ungodliness, all the ungodliness of the world. He, writes the Apostle, is the man “made sin” (2 Corinthians 5:21). It is against him that the wrath of God “is revealed.” The infinite attraction that there is from eternity between the Father and the Son is now run through by an equally infinite repulsion between the holiness of God and the malice of sin and this is “to drink the cup.”…"
anyone else uncomfortable with this? Is it even one step away from Calvins penal substitution?
Am I getting paranoid?
regards
Nicholas
Pontifical Preacher Speaks on Christ Crucified
VATICAN CITY, APRIL 7, 2006 (Zenit.org).-
"…In a strongly contemplative tone, the Capuchin invited his listeners to go to Calvary and enter “the passion of Jesus’ soul,” which is “much more painful than that of the body,” unveiling, one by one, all the elements that came together in it.
The meditation ranged from the “solitude” Christ endured, which "reached its culmination on the cross when, in his humanity, he felt abandoned even by the Father, to the “humiliation and contempt” that surrounded him.
“But the passion of the Savior’s soul has an even more profound cause,” he said. “In Gethsemane he prayed for the cup to be removed from him. The image of the cup almost always evokes in the Bible the idea of God’s wrath against sin.”
And as Jesus is burdened with all the ungodliness of the world, to the extent that, as St. Paul writes, he is the man “made to be sin,” “it is against him that the wrath of God ‘is revealed,’” said Father Cantalamessa.
“The infinite attraction existing from eternity between the Father and the Son is now run through by an equally infinite repulsion between the holiness of God and the malice of sin, and this is ‘to drink the cup,’” said the Pontifical Household preacher in the Redemptoris Mater Chapel of the Apostolic Palace.
…"
Father Cantalamessa on Christ’s Suffering
3rd Lenten Sermon Given to Pontifical Household
VATICAN CITY, APRIL 7, 2006 (ZENIT.org).-
"…
But the passion of the Savior’s soul has an even deeper cause than solitude and humiliation. In Gethsemane he prays that the cup be removed from him (cf. Mark 14:36). In the Bible, the image of the cup evokes almost always the idea of the wrath of God against sin (cf. Isaiah 51:22; Psalm 75:9; Revelation 14:10).
At the beginning of the letter, St. Paul establishes a fact which has the value of a universal principle: “The wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness” (Romans 1:18). Where there is sin, one cannot fail to note the judgment of God against it, otherwise God would compromise with sin and the distinction itself between good and evil would fail. God’s wrath is the same thing as his holiness. Now, Jesus in Gethsemane is ungodliness, all the ungodliness of the world. He, writes the Apostle, is the man “made sin” (2 Corinthians 5:21). It is against him that the wrath of God “is revealed.” The infinite attraction that there is from eternity between the Father and the Son is now run through by an equally infinite repulsion between the holiness of God and the malice of sin and this is “to drink the cup.”…"
anyone else uncomfortable with this? Is it even one step away from Calvins penal substitution?
Am I getting paranoid?
regards
Nicholas