Penitential Rite

[turtleoompa]

Are we supposed to be saying the Penitential Rite (I confess to almighty God…) at each mass on Sundays. I’ve noticed we have not been doing it at our Church.

 

[Brooklyn]

Are we supposed to be saying the Penitential Rite (I confess to almighty God…) at each mass on Sundays. I’ve noticed we have not been doing it at our Church.

Yes, it is suppose to be said every Sunday and Holy Day. Unfortunately, there are far too many who do not abide by this rule. If this is not being said on a regular basis at your Church, I would bring it up to the pastor.

Mary

 

[Corki]

Are we supposed to be saying the Penitential Rite (I confess to almighty God…) at each mass on Sundays. I’ve noticed we have not been doing it at our Church.

Yes, it is supposed to be said at all Masses. But there are three options and only one starts with “I confess to Almighty God…” The other two blend the confession of sin with the Kyrie and one is almost free form. Maybe your parish is just using one of the other forms.

 

[LilyM]

Yes, it is suppose to be said every Sunday and Holy Day. Unfortunately, there are far too many who do not abide by this rule. If this is not being said on a regular basis at your Church, I would bring it up to the pastor.

Mary

The confiteor (‘I confess’ version) isn’t required to be said at any time. The Creed and Gloria are required on Sundays and Holy Days.

The Penitential Rite in one of its forms must be said at every single Mass.

 

[otjm]

Yes, it is supposed to be said at all Masses. But there are three options and only one starts with “I confess to Almighty God…” The other two blend the confession of sin with the Kyrie and one is almost free form. Maybe your parish is just using one of the other forms.

Yes and no. If the Mass starts with the Asperges - the priest goes throughout the congregation sprinkling them with holy water - the beginning is a bit different.

and by the way, it appears that you are not familiar with all of the parts of the Mass, including where there may be options. If you show up 5 or 10 minutes early and look through a missalette, you will be able to sort out these options. It is also a good time to read the Old and New Testament readings; going over them before Mass can help focus while hearing them at Mass.

 

[Corki]

Yes and no. If the Mass starts with the Asperges - the priest goes throughout the congregation sprinkling them with holy water - the beginning is a bit different.

I forgot about the Asperges. I haven’t seen Mass done with one for at least 20 years other than Easter Vigil.

and by the way, it appears that you are not familiar with all of the parts of the Mass, including where there may be options. If you show up 5 or 10 minutes early and look through a missalette, you will be able to sort out these options. It is also a good time to read the Old and New Testament readings; going over them before Mass can help focus while hearing them at Mass

Excuse me! I have very familiar with the parts of the Mass. I am the one who mentioned the options. I always am at Mass early and read the readings ahead of time. Luckily, I am in a parish that still has missals since many around here do not.

I was referring to Form C of the Penetential Rite

Form C of the Penitential Rite incorporates the Kyrie:

Priest: [A short improvised prayer is said followed by] Lord have mercy.
People: Lord have mercy.
Priest: [A second short improvised prayer, followed by] Christ have mercy.
People: Christ have mercy.
Priest: [A third short improvised prayer, followed by] Lord have mercy.
People: Lord have mercy.

It’s those “improvised prayers” that make it seem free form. Even if you are trying to follow along in your missal, you can’t always be sure. And I have heard some interesting improvisation.

 

[otjm]

Excuse me! I have very familiar with the parts of the Mass. I am the one who mentioned the options. I always am at Mass early and read the readings ahead of time. Luckily, I am in a parish that still has missals since many around here do not.

I was referring to Form C of the Penetential Rite

It’s those “improvised prayers” that make it seem free form. Even if you are trying to follow along in your missal, you can’t always be sure. And I have heard some interesting improvisation.

Sorry, I wasn’t trying to take a poke.

I have no problem with the improvised prayers (perhaps because I have never heard anything that seems improper), and I always know that we are in Form C when it occurs. Maybe, because I do not have a problem with it, I have a hard time understanding why someone else would. I don’t question that they do, I just don’t understand why. But then, ordination never has been a guarantee of wisdom… we get the spectrum; some are wise, some are holy, some are wise and holy; some are not wise, some are not holy, and some are neither wise nor holy.

 

[stbruno]

Also the Penitential rite may be eliminated if their is a baptism during the mass. Instead, the greeting & signing of the cross of the infant is done at this time.