Pentagon prepares to build £70bn robot army

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The Pentagon is spending £70 billion on a programme to build heavily-armed robots for the battlefield in the hope that future wars will be fought without the loss of its soldiers’ lives.

The scheme, known as Future Combat Systems, is the largest military contract in American history and will help to drive the defence budget up by almost 20 per cent to just over £265 billion in five years’ time.

Much of the cash will be spent computerising the military, but the ultimate aim is to take members of the armed forces out of harm’s way. They would be replaced by robots capable of hunting and killing America’s enemies.

Gordon Johnson, of the US joint forces research centre, told the New York Times: “The American military will have these kinds of robots. It’s not a question of ‘if’, it’s a question of ‘when’.”

The American military is already planning units of about 2,000 men and 150 robots, among them land-based “infantry” devices and drone aircraft.

In the far future it is hoped that the miniaturised robots will walk like humans, or hover like some birds. Others may look like insects.

Scientists say that, working at full tilt, the process is likely to take at least 20 years.

Robert Finkelstein, the head of one development firm called Robotic Technologies, said the Pentagon has established the goal “but the path is not totally clear”.

In the meantime, the military is developing simpler technologies.

The US military has already bought a tracked robot which can enter highly risky sites such as cave complexes favoured by al-Qa’eda.

The machines have been deployed in Afghanistan’s caves, digging up roadside bombs in Iraq and guarding weapons storage sites.

The Swords robots come in several versions, carrying either a machine gun, grenade launcher or a light anti-tank weapon.

It is controlled by a soldier from a distance of up to 1,000 yards.

“We were sitting there firing single rounds and smacking bull’s-eyes,” said Staff Sergeant Santiago Tordillos, who helped to design and test the robot. "We were completely amazed.’’

That human involvement has proved critical in convincing military lawyers that machines can be used on the battlefield. More advanced machines which can decide whether to kill would also be legal, said Mr Johnson.

“The lawyers tell me there are no prohibitions against robots making life-or-death decisions,” he said.

The programme is already causing other nations to reassess their military priorities. Britain’s Armed Forces in particular will need to follow the American lead if only because the two militaries fight together so often.

While the cost of the scheme is huge, it may ultimately save large sums of money. Professional soldiers, their dependants and pensions are pricey. Once robotic technology is developed, the Americans say, the cost of a robot soldier might be only 10 per cent that of its human counterpart.

A US navy research centre in San Diego has already produced a robot built to look like a human. At 4ft high, it has a gun on its right arm and a single eye and could shoot at a target.

One researcher, Jeff Grossman, said the intelligence of the machines was increasing. “Now, maybe, we’re a mammal. We’re trying to get to the level of a primate.”

When researchers succeed, a number of troubling moral dilemmas will have to be addressed. Some in the American computer business are asking whether it is acceptable to have machines decide for themselves whether to take human life and what will happen when, inevitably, the robot makes a mistake.

Bill Joy, who helped to found Sun Microsystems, said 21st century machines could become “so powerful that they can spawn whole new classes of accidents and abuses”.
 
I can’t take this seriously. Not that I don’t believe it, it’s just that there are to many science fiction cliches running through my head now for me to respond intelligently. All I can think of is Blade Runner, Terminator, and that episode of “Star Trek” where computers ran a war between two planets (note that none of the above were happy stories for the humans involved). All I can really hope is that these people know what they’re doing, and that Rod Serling was wrong about robots in general.
 
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GULaw:
I can’t take this seriously.
Not to mention the fact the the Pentegon rarely uses British pounds to fund its R&D. 😃
 
**Robots have been in use in Iraq for some time. So far, they have been used for surveillance and bomb detection. A contract was just awarded to the manufacturer to equip it with weapons and some other fancy stuff so it could go down an alley instead of a soldier. Since this was an adaptation of an existing machine, the R&D contract was for one million dollars, which is peanuts compared to the the development of a completely new system. Since the prototype was just rolled out last week, I seriously doubt that a major contract has been awarded yet. **
 
Police have been using robots for this sort of work for awhile now.
 
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ktm:
The Cylon invasion begins March 1st.
My money is on the Clingons and they don’t invade until after April 15. That way they know the government has all our money.
 
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kmktexas:
Not to mention the fact the the Pentegon rarely uses British pounds to fund its R&D. 😃
It’s a British site I believe, they simply have the sum translated to the value of their currency so their readers could find it easier to evaluate. Not at all unusual…
 
I’ve seen news items about this previously. I’ll withhold judgement until I see these robots climb stairs and jump across gaps in the floor. I’m just waiting for the Pentagon to announce the creation of a new computer system called Skynet, then I’m heading out to Montana. I do think it would be cool to have robot armies fighting each other. Then they could put it on TV, sort of like “BattleBots” writ large! That would be worth the price of admission!!😃 😃
 
I wasn’t aware the the Pentagon paid its contractors in Pounds Sterling.
 
I wonder how much could be contributed towards world peace by spending £70 billion rather than looking towards mobilising for another war?
 
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Norwich:
I wonder how much could be contributed towards world peace by spending £70 billion rather than looking towards mobilising for another war?
Peace cannot exist in a climate of injustice. The two are incompatible. When Syria, Iran, North Korea, et al, put a premium on justice, no one would have to mobilize for war.
 
Hey, maybe the 2nd Coming of Christ just might be like Neo in the Matrix 😃

“And He said unto him, ‘I know Kung-Fu…’” (New Age Gospel 1:101)
 
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