Pentecost and the Importance of Latin

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The way to do this naturally is for their to be a mutual language understood by all parties.
Are you saying that the language that was spoken by the Apostles at Pentecost was Latin, a language that it is unlikely that either they or Jesus himself spoke, nor many in the crowd they were addressing? I’m a little confused where you are going with this. It’s the connection you’re trying to make between Pentecost and Latin that I am not clear on.
 
No. I am saying that at Pentecost, it would appear as though everyone understood what was being said. How do you understand what someone is saying naturally (ie without a miracle)? By speaking the same language.

What happened at Pentecost was miraculous. Yet, someone from America and someone from Britain speaking and understanding each other is natural, as they speak the same language (well, close enough at least).

Do you understand the point now?
 
I didn’t even bring up Latin in my original post. It was in the title because, as it happens, it was the universal language used for Church documents and then pretty much all academia for a very long time. It still is the universal language of the Church and Church documents. Two learned priests often can rudimentarily communicate using Latin if they have no other shared language.
 
At Pentecost the Apostles were evangelizing people in their native tongue, and you are making the case for a universal language based on this. Doesn’t follow.
Call me confused.
 
My local parish sang the Gloria, Sanctus and Agnus Dei in Latin for Pentecost.
 
There is an index that shows the differences between vulgar and Classical Latin and it shows Vulgar Latin to be without the strict grammatical rules as the Ciceronean Latin. The Church did adhere to the stricter grammatical rules and therefore adopted the latter adding words to serve its purpose. Vulgar Latin became the grandfather of today’s Romance Languages.
 
Doesn’t the “C” sound like a “K” in Ciceronean Latin? Because I’m pretty sure the Romans pronounced the name “Cicero” as “Kee-ker-o”.

That is probably were we got the term “Kaiser” from if I can go out on a limb.
 
Latin is one of the three languages which identified Christ, and it was probably at the top. An innovation? Seriously?
 
The Church in fact did use the “kikeronean” pronunciations. Italian pronunciations are a relatively new thing.
 
There is an index that shows the differences between vulgar and Classical Latin and it shows Vulgar Latin to be without the strict grammatical rules as the Ciceronean Latin. The Church did adhere to the stricter grammatical rules and therefore adopted the latter adding words to serve its purpose. Vulgar Latin became the grandfather of today’s Romance Languages.
I go with the pronunciation distinction including long and short vowels, since I studied Classical Latin with Classical not Ecclesiastical pronunciation.
 
I go with the pronunciation distinction including long and short vowels, since I studied Classical Latin with Classical not Ecclesiastical pronunciation.
Amazing study and knowledge.
 
No, I don’t think so. It is a step backward. The Church took pain to diversify so that every tribe, every nation will hear and able to speak to the Lord their God in the languages of their tongues.

We are not Muslims and there is no reason to copy them.

One of the reasons why we were not successful in China and Japan, nations with thousand of years of civilization of their own, was that our missionaries were seen as Eurocentric and thus aliens to them, which they always regarded as foriegners’ religion.

Our point of unity is Jesus, who is to be made known to all the people in the world in a language that they can understand.
 
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One of the reasons why we were not successful in China and Japan, nations with thousand of years of civilization of their own, was that our missionaries were seen as Eurocentric and thus aliens to them, which they always regarded as foriegners’ religion.
Right, Latin cements the faith as Eurocentric even though it originated in the Middle East.
 
Most schools teach the classical pronunciations. Why Catholic schools use it and study Virgil instead of Church writings is beyond me.
 
Why Catholic schools use it and study Virgil instead of Church writings is beyond me.
From the earliest times, Churchmen have always used Cicero and Vergil as the standards of good Latin. Even in the Dark Ages, this continued unbroken. The Venerable Bede comes to mind as an illustrious example.

Both were held in high esteem. In the Divine Comedy, Dante is guided by Virgil.
 
Most schools teach the classical pronunciations. Why Catholic schools use it and study Virgil instead of Church writings is beyond me.
I think it is because spoken or sung poetry is what is taught including Dactylic Hexameter with elision.
 
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