Pentecost Season?

[LadyLionheart]

Greetings all,
I hope that I am posting this in the correct place - as I think it pertains to traditional Catholicism if anything. Anyhow, back in June, the Priest at my church was giving a very nice homily about Pentecost and how essential it is to the church. However, whilst in the process of giving the homily, he touched up on a subject that is very curious to me. He spoke of an actual Pentecost Season that was celebrated when he was young. I’ve searched on numerous websites and have found nothing. Can someone please give some insight? I’m rather curious. Any help would be appreciated!
Thank you,
Marianne

 

[ChibiViolet]

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[The_Reginator]

“Ordinary Time” is a new invention.
Prior to the changes to the calendar that came after VII each Sunday after Pentecost was know at the ___ Sunday after Pentecost, thus creating the “Season of Pentecost”. (This title appears at the top of the appropriate pages in my Missal.)

Now it’s bedtime.

 

[LadyLionheart]

The Reginator,
Thank you. That is what really confused me. It states “the Season of Pentecost,” but how long did it end? I am just slightly curious.
Marianne

 

[Rich_C]

Before 1970, the Church didn’t use the current liturgical calendar.

The new calendar goes: Advent, Ordinary Time, Lent, Easter, Ordinary Time.

The old calendar went: Advent, Epiphany, Septuagesima, Lent, Easter, Pentacost

I go to the traditional Latin Mass and we still use the old calendar. The season of Pentacost runs from the feast of Pentacost until the First Sunday in Advent. This Sunday will be the 18th Sunday after Pentacost, instead of whatever Sunday of Ordinary Time you are on.

In the old calendar, we also don’t have years A, B, and C, we just have one cycle of readings that we use each year. The Sundays after Pentacost are set aside for thematic lessons taking from Our Lord’s parables and miracles.

Did I explain that alright?

 

[Evan]

Before 1970, the Church didn’t use the current liturgical calendar.

The new calendar goes: Advent, Ordinary Time, Lent, Easter, Ordinary Time.

The old calendar went: Advent, Epiphany, Septuagesima, Lent, Easter, Pentecost

I go to the traditional Latin Mass and we still use the old calendar. The season of Pentacost runs from the feast of Pentacost until the First Sunday in Advent. This Sunday will be the 18th Sunday after Pentacost, instead of whatever Sunday of Ordinary Time you are on.

In the old calendar, we also don’t have years A, B, and C, we just have one cycle of readings that we use each year. The Sundays after Pentacost are set aside for thematic lessons taking from Our Lord’s parables and miracles.

Did I explain that alright?

I’m not in complete agreement with your ‘Pentecost’ season. The Sundays are title “Sundays **after **Pentecost”. The priest may have been referring to the Octave of Pentecost which proceeds from Pentecost Sunday to Trinity Sunday (8 days).

Septuagesima was just 1 Sunday. As was Quinquagesima between Christmas (ending Feb 2) and Lent. These Sundays did not occur on all years depending upon when Easter arrived.

In your modern list of Seasons, you failed to include Christmas between Advent and Ordinary Time and Triduum between Lent and Easter.

 

[tradcathconvert]

In the calendar used for the EF, the last 3 Sundays before Lent are always Septuagesima, Sexagesima, and Quinquagesima (my spelling may not be completely correct). Quinquagesima is always the Sunday before Ash Wednesday. So, the 6 Sundays after Epiphany are not always celebrated before Lent. It often turns out that some of them are resumed near the end of the liturgical year, just before the Last Sunday after Pentecost. In the Missal there are, if I remember correctly, 24 Sundays after Pentecost. The one for the 24th must always be said on the Last Sunday after Pentecost, the last Sunday of the Church Year, one week before Advent starts.

 

[Rich_C]

I’m not in complete agreement with your ‘Pentecost’ season. The Sundays are title “Sundays **after **Pentecost”. The priest may have been referring to the Octave of Pentecost which proceeds from Pentecost Sunday to Trinity Sunday (8 days).

Septuagesima was just 1 Sunday. As was Quinquagesima between Christmas (ending Feb 2) and Lent. These Sundays did not occur on all years depending upon when Easter arrived.

In your modern list of Seasons, you failed to include Christmas between Advent and Ordinary Time and Triduum between Lent and Easter.

Thanks I was writing that in a coffee shop between errands, and obviously there are gaps in my understand of the seasons.

 

[YoungTradCath]

I’m not in complete agreement with your ‘Pentecost’ season. The Sundays are title “Sundays **after **Pentecost”. The priest may have been referring to the Octave of Pentecost which proceeds from Pentecost Sunday to Trinity Sunday (8 days).

Septuagesima was just 1 Sunday. As was Quinquagesima between Christmas (ending Feb 2) and Lent. These Sundays did not occur on all years depending upon when Easter arrived.

In your modern list of Seasons, you failed to include Christmas between Advent and Ordinary Time and Triduum between Lent and Easter.

I am sure the priest meant the Pentecost Octave (a big loss in the new calendar, in my opinion).

From my understanding, the whole time from Septuagesima Sunday till the First Sunday of Lent was and is commonly called the season of Septuagesima. Of course it technically isn’t, but that is the common understanding.

 

[Evan]

I am sure the priest meant the Pentecost Octave (a big loss in the new calendar, in my opinion).

From my understanding, the whole time from Septuagesima Sunday till the First Sunday of Lent was and is commonly called the season of Septuagesima. Of course it technically isn’t, but that is the common understanding.

Of course, for those of you who don’t know your Roman number system. Septuagesima means 70 as in 70 days before Easter, Sexagesima is 60 as in 60 days before Easter, and Quinquagesima is 50 as in 50 days before Easter (Sunday before Ash Wednesday).

It was easier to pretend there were 10 day weeks rather than using something like 44 days before(move to 50), 51 days before (moved to 60!!??), and 58 days before (moved to 70).

Septuagesima fell between January 18 (within the Chrismas Season) and the latest is February 22. While Christmas ended on Feb 2nd (the Presentation of the Lord, 40 days after Christmas).