Pentecost Vigil Extended Form

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If Fr. Gill wants people to know about this Mass, he should give it a little more exposure on the St Peter and Paul website. One has to hunt through the bulletin archives on the site to even find out it is occurring. The one mention of it there does not even refer to it as a “Mass” and it is not on the Mass schedule. I’m sure every charismatic group in the Archdiocese knows about it though.

I’ve seen this sort of thing before - something gets identified as “a charismatic thing” and it doesn’t get publicized to people who aren’t charismatic.
 
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The article says this Mass is bilingual in English and Spanish. Does this mean every reading and all aspects of the Liturgy are said in both languages? If so with the extra readings it must be a long Mass.
 
My guess based on how they handle the Easter Vigil is they trade off languages. 2 readings will be in English, 2 in Spanish. The text will be printed in the Mass handout in the other language, so those who don’t understand English can read it in Spanish and vice versa.
 
Prior to 1955, the Pentecost vigil included twelve readings, the litany of saints, blessing of the font, and Holy baptism, as on the Easter Vigil.
 
I hate that.
I was at a confirmation where they did that.
It comes off so messy and ridiculous!
Especially singing songs with a verse in one language and the next verse in another!
I told my friend I was with how much easier if it were just said in Latin.
 
Yah. Four Old Testament readings.
I asked one of my priests to do it one year.
That was a negative.
And to show me what happens when I ask for more liturgy, he even used Eucharistic Prayer 2 to show me my place.
 
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With that said it is his churches mass that does that.
It isn’t like every Pentecost Vigil Mass needs to be bilingual. Says nothing of the sort. He probably chooses to do that because he lives in a diverse area.

It isn’t celebrated during the day, what the article means is that unlike the Easter Vigil which cannot begin until after sunset, the Pentecost Vigil can begin at First Vespers like all Sundays and Solemnities allow. I believe that is 4 PM at earliest.( though I believe most actually pray vespers around 6 PM.
 
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That’s what I’m saying!
Every missal , misselette , or publication with mass readings I have ever seen includes the Pentecost Vigil extended and shorter form.
I think the majority of Catholics know it exists if they ever look through it.
The little known thing is where do we find someone who does this extended form?
 
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It isn’t like every Pentecost Vigil Mass needs to be bilingual. Says nothing of the sort. He probably chooses to do that because he lives in a diverse area.
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Both the Philadelphia basilica and the local charismatic community have a huge Latino presence, so it makes sense to have half the readings in Spanish.

And it starts at 7:30 pm, which I believe is after the normal 5 pm or so vigil Mass.
 
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That is a question for each celebrant. I know priests who always use the long form of the readings, including the Pentecost Vigil, and those who always use the short form.
 
May seem messy if it’s infrequent. I live in a bilingual country and it’s fairly common. A bilingual order of service helps too. Instead of hymns being sung in both languages though it’s usually one in one language and another in the other - saves confusion.
 
True.
I just wasn’t expecting it.
I have no issue with going to a mass I don’t understand the language spoken.
I frequent the EF often so it’s all good.
It just seemed how it was done with just mixing the languages, I don’t speak Spanish but how it came off I almost would have preferred it all been in Spanish.
 
How is the the Eucharist consecration and the rest of the Liturgy of the Eucharist said at bi lingual Mass? Are the languages alternated?
 
Ok, I went to this just to see what it was.
My hunch was right that it was treated as a Charismatic Mass and primarily advertised to the charismatic community here, not to everybody at large. I could speculate as to why the charismatics seem to want their “privacy” but I’ll skip it. It was mostly just a normal OF Mass with four “First Readings” plus psalms/ responses, plus there was an Epistle and Gospel for a total of 6 readings. Languages were alternated for the readings, which was okay, and even alternated in some of the prayers, which wasn’t so okay - I found that a distraction from prayer. The consecration was done in English, using Eucharistic Prayer 1, the long version.

I would attend a Pentecost Vigil Mass again, but I’d prefer it be all in English and not charismatic next time.
 
They weren’t over the top. My main problem was that the music they used was way too loud and not my favorite genre, and that during the announcement time about 6 of them got up to give testimony and it was pretty boring. When a Mass I’m at has already run for 2 hours, I don’t really want to hear someone’s long-drawn-out personal life story. I was considering a charismatic retreat later this year, but if it’s going to be 2 days of dull testimony, maybe I pick another.

They did pray in tongues after the Mass ended, but I was falling asleep in the pew by then since it was 10 pm and I was jetlagged, so I left.
 
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Forgive my ignorance but is praying in tongues even Catholic?
I thought that was the Pentecostals and born agains and Sarah Palin who did that stuff. Did they do that thing where like they push the people over too?
Idk I’m not going to criticize people if that brings them to the Lord, just don’t really view that as Catholic is all … haha.
 
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Catholics are permitted to pray in tongues. I’ve seen several priests do it. The priest leading the prayer here was the rector of the Cathedral, who’s doing this whole business with the permission of the Archbishop, so it’s fine. What I usually don’t see happening is translation of the tongues. Having a large group doing it together in an echoing cathedral made a pleasant musical noise but after about 1-2 minutes of it the priest stopped and prayed in English, then another 1-2 minutes of it and the priest said another prayer in English etc.

And no, people don’t get pushed over at your normal Charismatic Mass here. People fall sometimes at healing services, which this wasn’t.
 
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Thanks.
No I wasn’t like criticizing it, I just come from a more traditional background and I honestly didn’t even know this was a thing in Catholicism.
 
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