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sparrowhill07
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Hi, in the Pentecostal or born-again faith does your minister have to bless the eucharist as our priests do in the Catholic Church or can anyone with faith do it before God?
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thequeen
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There is no Eucharist in the pentecostal churches because there are no valid sacraments it is only bread and juice in other words it is symbolic to them no Eucharist at all.
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sparrowhill07
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Does the bread/juice have to be blessed by by a minister as we do in the Catholic faith?
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Gertabelle
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My understanding, and I’m sure this varies from one pastor’s interpretation to another’s, is that just about anyone can get some bread and wine/juice, and read the gospel passage of the institution of the Eucharist (and pretend Our Lord didn’t really mean it), any time, any place. When it’s just a symbol, rubrics don’t really matter much.Does the bread/juice have to be blessed by by a minister as we do in the Catholic faith?
Just my two cents, based on my own very limited experience outside the Church…
Gertie
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Church_Militant
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Having been a deacon in a Pentecostal denom, (AoG) they have no Eucharist because they deny the sacrament. They can do their “communion” wherever they please.Hi, in the Pentecostal or born-again faith does your minister have to bless the eucharist as our priests do in the Catholic Church or can anyone with faith do it before God?
Nope, there is no consecration, no priest, no sacrament.Does the bread/juice have to be blessed by by a minister as we do in the Catholic faith?
The Catholic Church still has the Eucharist as it was in the early church.
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JoshuaNY
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From what I have read and learned this is my understaning as well. I was friends with a Pentacostal in College(not to say this guy is the end all be all of Pentacostal Doctrine). One Sunday he was asked to talk about and share the communion with the congregation.My understanding, and I’m sure this varies from one pastor’s interpretation to another’s, is that just about anyone can get some bread and wine/juice, and read the gospel passage of the institution of the Eucharist (and pretend Our Lord didn’t really mean it), any time, any place. When it’s just a symbol, rubrics don’t really matter much.
Just my two cents, based on my own very limited experience outside the Church…
Gertie
So as Gertie said any lay person can “do communion”. Dont forget that not all Pentacostals are the same, not all of them are part of the Worldwide Pentacostal Fellowship and may have slightly different beleifs and practices.
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4Squarebaby
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In general we believe in a priesthood of all born again believers, the pastor ordained by some body or not holds no extraordinary position beyond that of the teaching elder of a congregation and perhaps the CEO/business manager of the local church depending upon the rules of a specific denomination or independent church.From what I have read and learned this is my understaning as well. I was friends with a Pentacostal in College(not to say this guy is the end all be all of Pentacostal Doctrine). One Sunday he was asked to talk about and share the communion with the congregation.
So as Gertie said any lay person can “do communion”. Dont forget that not all Pentacostals are the same, not all of them are part of the Worldwide Pentacostal Fellowship and may have slightly different beleifs and practices.
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JoshuaNY
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Hey thanks for clearing that up. We can all extrapolate all we want on what we have read and heard. It helps to hear whats up straight from the horses mouth.In general we believe in a priesthood of all born again believers, the pastor ordained by some body or not holds no extraordinary position beyond that of the teaching elder of a congregation and perhaps the CEO/business manager of the local church depending upon the rules of a specific denomination or independent church.
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Oldtimer_7
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I was talking to a friend who is a pastor and he was asked to fill in for a pastor who was going on vacation. He asked what he had to do for communion, and was told he just had to go sit down, since the deacons would just pass it out and it would be taken. Since the church was non-liturgical, there was nothing that a Catholic or a Lutheran would indentify as the Great Thanksgiving and the Eucharist. Even for my friend, this was passing strange.
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Cat
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My husband was raised in the Assemblies of God, which is a Pentecostal denomination.
Before we converted to Catholicism, we would often celebrate communion together, just the two of us, with matzoh and grape juice. That’s perfectly acceptable in that denomination and evangelical Protestant denominations.
Please don’t be too quick to criticize this. I believe communion, even practiced as a symbol, can be used by the Holy Spirit to lead Christians back to the Catholic Church and to the True Eucharist. My husband and I loved communion as Protestants, and we always knew in our hearts that something wasn’t quite right. But we didn’t know what was “missing.” We kept trying to find the missing part.
The passages of Scripture used by Protestant in most communion services are the same that Catholics use. As we all know, Scripture is powerful, and the Holy Spirit can use the Word of God to convict and teach. The Scripture clearly says, “This IS My Body,” and “This IS My Blood.” When Protestants hear this over and over again, many have a “light bulb” experience and realize that yes, this is SUPPOSED to really be Jesus, not just a symbol! And this realization can and does bring them to the Catholic Church.
Unfortunately, many evangelical Protestant churches are offering communion less often, sometimes only a few times a year. The ancient tradition of Communion services doesn’t exactly fit in with “modern” worship, a professional praise and worship band, and video sermons. Many evangelicals utterly reject any visage of “ritual” as a “work of man,” and therefore, not of “faith.”
In the last few years that we were still evangelical Protestant, my husband and I grieved over the loss of communion services from our church (they only celebrated communion a few times a year,usually on Sunday nights). That’s one reason we did more “home communion” services, so that we wouldn’t lose this part of our faith. We felt that it was important to do as Jesus commanded and “remember Him” in the breaking of the bread. Yes, to us it was just a symbol, but like I said, we KNEW that there was some kind of mystery and we were trying hard to solve it.
Praise God, we did solve it when we started attending Mass at the parish down the street from our house!
I believe that Satan is laughing his head off over the evangelical churches who are eliminating communion services. With the loss of communion services, the Holy Spirit loses the opportunity to work in the hearts of believers and convict them about the True Eucharist. One point to Satan.
Before we converted to Catholicism, we would often celebrate communion together, just the two of us, with matzoh and grape juice. That’s perfectly acceptable in that denomination and evangelical Protestant denominations.
Please don’t be too quick to criticize this. I believe communion, even practiced as a symbol, can be used by the Holy Spirit to lead Christians back to the Catholic Church and to the True Eucharist. My husband and I loved communion as Protestants, and we always knew in our hearts that something wasn’t quite right. But we didn’t know what was “missing.” We kept trying to find the missing part.
The passages of Scripture used by Protestant in most communion services are the same that Catholics use. As we all know, Scripture is powerful, and the Holy Spirit can use the Word of God to convict and teach. The Scripture clearly says, “This IS My Body,” and “This IS My Blood.” When Protestants hear this over and over again, many have a “light bulb” experience and realize that yes, this is SUPPOSED to really be Jesus, not just a symbol! And this realization can and does bring them to the Catholic Church.
Unfortunately, many evangelical Protestant churches are offering communion less often, sometimes only a few times a year. The ancient tradition of Communion services doesn’t exactly fit in with “modern” worship, a professional praise and worship band, and video sermons. Many evangelicals utterly reject any visage of “ritual” as a “work of man,” and therefore, not of “faith.”
In the last few years that we were still evangelical Protestant, my husband and I grieved over the loss of communion services from our church (they only celebrated communion a few times a year,usually on Sunday nights). That’s one reason we did more “home communion” services, so that we wouldn’t lose this part of our faith. We felt that it was important to do as Jesus commanded and “remember Him” in the breaking of the bread. Yes, to us it was just a symbol, but like I said, we KNEW that there was some kind of mystery and we were trying hard to solve it.
Praise God, we did solve it when we started attending Mass at the parish down the street from our house!
I believe that Satan is laughing his head off over the evangelical churches who are eliminating communion services. With the loss of communion services, the Holy Spirit loses the opportunity to work in the hearts of believers and convict them about the True Eucharist. One point to Satan.
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juansdec
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All I can say is wow!!! My Dad-R.I.P. he was catholic but never went to Mass at all. So I mostly went to pentecostal churches for most of my growing up, and baptist too. The thing was that they took commuion/the Lord’s Supper seriously. And some people wouldn’t even participate. But a lot of those people in those pentecostal churches are/were Catholic!!!
And it seems like they don’t or never understood John 6!!! Wow!!! They don’t understand the Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist.
And the pentecostals really don’t seem understand how to deal with sin. And now that I think about it, what they do/used to do is go and kneel at their atlar and cry a lot. But a lot of it is just Entertainment in the pentecostal churches. They only seem to focus on the Holy Spirit. And they forgot about Jesus!!!
oh by the way, some pentecostal preacher/minister wrote a book saying that pentecostals DO have sacraments too. I don’t remember the name of it off hand though. But I saw it on Amazon.com
And it seems like they don’t or never understood John 6!!! Wow!!! They don’t understand the Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist.
And the pentecostals really don’t seem understand how to deal with sin. And now that I think about it, what they do/used to do is go and kneel at their atlar and cry a lot. But a lot of it is just Entertainment in the pentecostal churches. They only seem to focus on the Holy Spirit. And they forgot about Jesus!!!
oh by the way, some pentecostal preacher/minister wrote a book saying that pentecostals DO have sacraments too. I don’t remember the name of it off hand though. But I saw it on Amazon.com
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Gertabelle
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:tiphat:**WOW! **Thanks for this AWESOME post!!! :clapping:My husband was raised in the Assemblies of God, which is a Pentecostal denomination.
Before we converted to Catholicism, we would often celebrate communion together, just the two of us, with matzoh and grape juice. That’s perfectly acceptable in that denomination and evangelical Protestant denominations.
Please don’t be too quick to criticize this. I believe communion, even practiced as a symbol, can be used by the Holy Spirit to lead Christians back to the Catholic Church and to the True Eucharist. My husband and I loved communion as Protestants, and we always knew in our hearts that something wasn’t quite right. But we didn’t know what was “missing.” We kept trying to find the missing part.
The passages of Scripture used by Protestant in most communion services are the same that Catholics use. As we all know, Scripture is powerful, and the Holy Spirit can use the Word of God to convict and teach. The Scripture clearly says, “This IS My Body,” and “This IS My Blood.” When Protestants hear this over and over again, many have a “light bulb” experience and realize that yes, this is SUPPOSED to really be Jesus, not just a symbol! And this realization can and does bring them to the Catholic Church.
Unfortunately, many evangelical Protestant churches are offering communion less often, sometimes only a few times a year. The ancient tradition of Communion services doesn’t exactly fit in with “modern” worship, a professional praise and worship band, and video sermons. Many evangelicals utterly reject any visage of “ritual” as a “work of man,” and therefore, not of “faith.”
In the last few years that we were still evangelical Protestant, my husband and I grieved over the loss of communion services from our church (they only celebrated communion a few times a year,usually on Sunday nights). That’s one reason we did more “home communion” services, so that we wouldn’t lose this part of our faith. We felt that it was important to do as Jesus commanded and “remember Him” in the breaking of the bread. Yes, to us it was just a symbol, but like I said, we KNEW that there was some kind of mystery and we were trying hard to solve it.
Praise God, we did solve it when we started attending Mass at the parish down the street from our house!
I believe that Satan is laughing his head off over the evangelical churches who are eliminating communion services. With the loss of communion services, the Holy Spirit loses the opportunity to work in the hearts of believers and convict them about the True Eucharist. One point to Satan.
Gert
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