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Am I correct about this? Pentecostals are not baptized. I just heard they do not baptize with water, only become baptized with the Holy Spirit ( no water). Anyone know this for certain?
 
I have a pentecostal background and yes they do baptise some in the trinitarian formula such as the church that Icame from and others in jesus name no trinity at all but because most of them keep such poor records most people who convert to catholocism from those types of Churches usually have to be baptised conditionally, Hope that helps answer your question.
 
“Baptism in the holy spirit” refers to the feeling Pentecostals have of being filled by the grace of the holy spirit, generally as a precursor to speaking in tongues or other events that are believed to be supernatural in character. The vast majority of Pentecostal congregations also practice the ordinance of baptism by immersion, which signifies the receiving member’s personal connection with Christ and with that particular church. Most Pentecostal congregations use a trinitarian formula, although a significant minority do not.
 
coco2 said:
Am I correct about this? Pentecostals are not baptized. I just heard they do not baptize with water, only become baptized with the Holy Spirit ( no water). Anyone know this for certain?
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There are different Pentecostal groups. Mainstream Pentecostals (such as Assemblies of God, Foursquare and Open Bible) are trinitarian, baptize by immersion in water, and except that they’re generally more theologically conservative, are hard to distinguish from Methodists… except that some speak in tongues of course, but even that in many churches is done in private, as a personal prayer language.

Oneness Pentecostals are a different bunch however, and as the name suggests, they’re not trinitarian. They do baptize with water, but only in the name of Jesus. I don’t know of any Pentecostal groups that don’t baptize with water.
 
My Pentecostal churches would baptize in rivers during all-day revivals…if that wasn’t possible, it was a pool indoors. My family practiced as AoG as well as Pentecostal - often just jumping from one to the other, depending upon where we lived and which congregation to which they felt more connected.

I was taught not to get baptized until I was old enough to be accountable for it - meaning mid-teens at the earliest. Also, it’s not uncommon to see people become baptized on a whim, “as the Spirit moves through you.”
 
icamay said:
My Pentecostal churches would baptize in rivers during all-day revivals…if that wasn’t possible, it was a pool indoors. My family practiced as AoG as well as Pentecostal - often just jumping from one to the other, depending upon where we lived and which congregation to which they felt more connected.

I was taught not to get baptized until I was old enough to be accountable for it - meaning mid-teens at the earliest. Also, it’s not uncommon to see people become baptized on a whim, “as the Spirit moves through you.”
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Do any of them rebaptize, or baptize repeatedly “as the Spirit moves them”?

Jon
 
JonNC said:
Do any of them rebaptize, or baptize repeatedly “as the Spirit moves them”?

Jon
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Many do. There are numerous types of Pentecostals, and it’s not uncommon for the people to move from church to church as they relocate or just make new friends. I’m not sure what the official UPC or AoG opinion is (it doesn’t matter anyway to anyone), but I’ve been in churches who allow constant rebaptism and churches that discourage it. I think it’s mostly up to the opinion of the deacons.

The most important element of being a Pentecostal is belief in the testimony of the Holy Spirit. This is where you’ll hear about “speaking in tongues”, something in all of my years of attending Pentecostal churches I’ve only heard of, but have never witnessed. It becomes like those stories where you know someone who knows someone who had a cousin…everyone I know knows someone who saw someone do it, but never seen it themselves.
 
icamay said:
Many do. There are numerous types of Pentecostals, and it’s not uncommon for the people to move from church to church as they relocate or just make new friends. I’m not sure what the official UPC or AoG opinion is (it doesn’t matter anyway to anyone), but I’ve been in churches who allow constant rebaptism and churches that discourage it. I think it’s mostly up to the opinion of the deacons.

The most important element of being a Pentecostal is belief in the testimony of the Holy Spirit. This is where you’ll hear about “speaking in tongues”, something in all of my years of attending Pentecostal churches I’ve only heard of, but have never witnessed. It becomes like those stories where you know someone who knows someone who had a cousin…everyone I know knows someone who saw someone do it, but never seen it themselves.
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Thanks,
Jon
 
I guess I should also point out that both Pentecostal ministers in my family consider themselves “independent Pentecostal”, which basically means that they aren’t formally affiliated with any national group. However, they still believe in the dress code, the separation of men & women, the gift of tongues, adult baptism, and deny “once saved, always saved”.
 
icamay said:
I guess I should also point out that both Pentecostal ministers in my family consider themselves “independent Pentecostal”, which basically means that they aren’t formally affiliated with any national group. However, they still believe in the dress code, the separation of men & women, the gift of tongues, adult baptism, and deny “once saved, always saved”.
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Those two elements are foreign to my experience with Pentecostalism, which is admittedly limited to AoG and Open Bible. Dress code? We ain’t got no stinkin’ dress code. Separation of men and women? Nope. Yeah, we have some men’s and women’s groups, for those who like that sort of thing, but mostly we do everything together.

And we do not expect anyone to be baptized again, unless they weren’t validly baptized according to our practice, which is trinitarian and by immersion. We’ll take their word for it; if they say they were baptized that way, good enough.
 
Izdaari said:
Those two elements are foreign to my experience with Pentecostalism, which is admittedly limited to AoG and Open Bible. Dress code? We ain’t got no stinkin’ dress code. Separation of men and women? Nope. Yeah, we have some men’s and women’s groups, for those who like that sort of thing, but mostly we do everything together.
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My family is drawn to the churches who practice extreme modesty - long dresses, long hair for women, no make-up, and men & women are not allowed to participate in sports or swimming together. Apostolics are mostly who practice this, but I know that many UPC churches we attended do as well. Over the years, my uncles have “allowed” the family to relax a bit on this, but who knows when they will decide that the Holy Spirit will move them back to it.

It’s my ongoing joke that I wasn’t baptised by my uncles because they wouldn’t let me wear jeans to the river. 🤷
 
Pentecostals do have water baptism. Its usually at a lake or a river.
 
Pretty_Wings said:
Pentecostals do have water baptism. Its usually at a lake or a river.
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Not usually but if they are available then its a field trip and makes it easier to do large numbers. Normally ours are done at church but I was once involved with hundreds in the Pacific Ocean.
 
My wife and I were driving in the mountains of Virginia and crossed a bridge over a creek. The water was absolutely clear and we knew it had to be cold. There was a little church on the side of the creek and the congregation were baptizing members in it. That had to be a powerful test of faith, sort of like being dunked in ice water.
 
duneman said:
what dress code ???
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icamay said:
My family is drawn to the churches who practice extreme modesty - long dresses, long hair for women, no make-up, and men & women are not allowed to participate in sports or swimming together. Apostolics are mostly who practice this, but I know that many UPC churches we attended do as well. Over the years, my uncles have “allowed” the family to relax a bit on this, but who knows when they will decide that the Holy Spirit will move them back to it.
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I’m not sure what the official UPC or AoG opinion is (it doesn’t matter anyway to anyone),
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Truer words…

I grew up UPC and they absolutely baptize via full immersion with the Jesus name formula. I have honestly never heard of pentes who don’t baptize as that’s a pretty important part of the “pentecost message”.
Those two elements are foreign to my experience with Pentecostalism, which is admittedly limited to AoG and Open Bible. Dress code? We ain’t got no stinkin’ dress code. Separation of men and women? Nope. Yeah, we have some men’s and women’s groups, for those who like that sort of thing, but mostly we do everything together.
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They’ve liberalized quite a lot recently but I’m pretty sure AoG still falls under the holiness umbrella. It probably depends on the area and the pastor.
 
The Pentecostal church I go to now, have no dress code. You can wear whatever. Majority of the time people still dress modest.
 
BriaMarie said:
Truer words…

I grew up UPC and they absolutely baptize via full immersion with the Jesus name formula. I have honestly never heard of pentes who don’t baptize as that’s a pretty important part of the “pentecost message”.

They’ve liberalized quite a lot recently but I’m pretty sure AoG still falls under the holiness umbrella. It probably depends on the area and the pastor.
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“Jesus name formula” is what exactly?
 
coco2 said:
“Jesus name formula” is what exactly?
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" I baptize you in the name of Jesus Christ" as opposed to “I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and in the Holy Spirit”
 
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