People who should be Saints

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ConstantineTG said:
You don’t have to be Roman Catholic to be a saint. There are many Eastern Catholics saints and Orthodox saints who are venerated in the Catholic Church.
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A very, very controversial issue I’m afraid. Most are only venerated by eastern catholics and there are question marks about whether all or only some Orthodox saints are actually saints. However what is clear is that the church cannot declare someone a saint who is not a Catholic, it may however receive those who have been declared as saints in other churches but that is a different and a very complicated matter.

As this thread is about people who are to be ‘sainted’ or rather declared saints by The Catholic Church, non-catholics don’t meet the criteria. This is not only common sense but established doctrine.
 
jmj1984 said:
As this thread is about people who are to be ‘sainted’ or rather declared saints by The Catholic Church, non-catholics don’t meet the criteria. This is not only common sense but established doctrine.
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Legally, could Archbishop Lefebvre be declared a saint?
 
Fr Patrick Peyton
Fr Michael McGiveny
Bp Sheen

There are so many to be honest. The official canonization process is VERY VERY expensive though. I have been following Bp Sheen’s cause and I gasp at the cost of getting all the investigation done, the paper work, the work of the postulator.

It’s a pricey deal.
 
lrcatholic95 said:
Who do you think should be a saint(living or dead)?? Why??
I think these people should be saints:
Pope Pius XII
Pope John Paul I
G.K. Chesterton
Mother Angelica(still living…thank God)
…um…to late…or early (4:27) to remember others…tell me yours
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Father Benedict Groeschel (C.F.R.) is an obvious choice. Brother Michael Gaworski, founder of the Franciscan Brothers of Peace, is another good choice. And, of course, Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen.
 
I should be a saint ad Iesu per Mariam.

Yet, I suspect I might not even make it Purgatory.
 
How about:

The Venerable Antonietta Meo (Nennolina)
Blessed Imelda Lamertini (Come on now, she died in 1327)
Fr. Thomas Byles (he was the priest on the Titanic)
Fr. Mychal Judge (he died on Sep 11, 2001 in the north tower praying)

Pax :signofcross:
 
Father Jacques Marquette 1637-1675. Hardship and suffering meant nothing to him. The only thing that mattered was the saving of souls.
 
Bishop Fredric Baraga!!! First Bishop of the diocese of Marquette!
 
PKinsale said:
I have been more intrigued by the work and writings of Leo XIII lately, and wonder why he has not made it to the honors of the altar.
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😃 Over the past 6 months Leo XIII is fast becoming my favorite Pope (or maybe 2nd favorite after Peter). His writings speak to the reader like they were written today.

Pax Christi
 
Warrenton said:
Legally, could Archbishop Lefebvre be declared a saint?
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This question came up in a thread awhile back. What I took away from the discussion is that the answer is no…and yes.

First the “no”- People who die while excommunicated are not canonized (doesn’t mean they aren’t in Heaven though). St. Athanasius was excommunicated but it was lifted while he lived. Same goes for St. Mary of the Cross. St. Joan of Arc died excommunicated but the excommunication was later determined to be invalid.

Now the “yes”. I’m haven’t found a specific Church law stating someone who dies while Excommunicated can not be canonized, but even if there was, the Pope is not bound by the canon law, so in theory a future Pope could declared Lefebvre a Saint.

Also, it is commonly stated that “Pope John Paul II excommunicated Archbishop Lefebvre” this is incorrect. Blessed John Paul II stated that the Archbishop had excommunicated himself by his actions, which is a different thing. There are arguments to be made that the Pope was incorrect in his assesment based upon the criteria for automatic excommunication (I’m not saying whether I agree or disagree with those arguments, but they are there), and there is not an issue of Papal Infallibility as excommunication is a legal/disciplinary matter, not a matter of faith and morals, so Pope John Paul II could have been wrong. So again, in theory, it’s possible that the Church comes to a determination at some time in the future that Archbishop Lefebvre was never in fact excommunicated.

It’s also possible that the entire process of declaring Saints changes in the future, as it has in the past. In the earlier years of the Church, the people simply declared someone a Saint. There was not a formal canonization process. Take St. Patrick for example. No Pope has ever canonized him…but he’s a saint. So perhaps we end up with some totally different system for identifying saints that opens the door for Archbishop Lefebvre.

If the EF or anything similar ever becomes the OF for the Latin Rite again, I think the Archbishop would get a serious look because of his role in preserving the Tridentine Mass.

Pax Christi
 
Bishop Fulton Sheen
Archbishop Lefebvre
Sister Lucy
Fr. Michael McGivney
 
Sorry, I still say that Fr. Mychal Judge ought to be made at the very least a Servant of God: Despite his personal demons, he resolved one of them and did not act out on the other. And his manner of death, in bringing the Sacrament of Extreme Unction to the dying in the already compromised North Tower was truly a death in the service of God. He could have easily stayed outside in comparative safety and fulfilled his mission as a fire department chaplain (they are not required to enter a compromised building, but are expected to report to the scene of big fires,) but he opted to go inside in harm’s way. That is truly heroic.

Of course, my bias stems from someone who lived in New York at the time of the attacks. There were many heroes that day, but Fr. Judge does stand out as someone who attempted to bring Christ into the heart of the attacks.

Just a comment about sainthood not being a popularity contest: Early in Church history, saints were made by acclamation. Undergoing the scrutiny of a cause didn’t enter into the picture until later in Church history.
 
Archbishop Lefebvre
Pope Pius XII
Queen Mary Tudor
Louis XVI (although I think his cause for canonization may have already been revoked)
 
Blessed Karl of Austria.

Excellence in leadership, piety and family love. Austria lost a good King when they turn-coated.

-MontChevalier
 
Dorothy Day!!! A convert who repented of her past, and spent her Catholic life as an advocate for the poor…
 
zaida said:
Dorothy Day!!! A convert who repented of her past, and spent her Catholic life as an advocate for the poor…
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Wikipedia (not the best source, but one none-the-less says:
She was proposed for sainthood by the Claretian Missionaries in 1983. Pope John Paul II granted the Archdiocese of New York permission to open Day’s “cause” for sainthood in March 2000, thereby officially making her a “Servant of God” in the eyes of the Catholic Church.
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