Permanent Deaconate?

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I was finally able to reach the secretary at my parish. She affirmed that Father had received my voicemail (from last week) and would be in touch, so that’s something. I’m not long on patience, but maybe that’s part of the Lord’s lesson for me. 🙂
When it comes to things like this, there can often be set starting and ending times. In my diocese, permanent deacons move through the (4 year) process as a class. So you can pretty much only get on board once every four years. If the deadline for application is further off, your inquiry may not get followed up on promptly simply because there isn’t much for you to do at this point anyway.
 
The other thing to remember is even if your area has a new group every year, there might be a certain cutoff time for that year. I started my inquiry last year about this time, and I was able to meet with the director of the program, but I had to sit and idle until February when my diocese had their information night and the paperwork started flying (there is a lot to do… lots of paperwork, a number of interviews, etc). For my diocese, Aspirancy starts in late August. Different diocese will be different, so again, be patient. Being that the program takes generally 4 - 5 years depending on the diocese, it’s not going to happen overnight.

God bless,

John
 
I really don’t know anything about how the program is run in my diocese, but there’s a lot of online information I still need to go through. This would be a major step for me and just figuring out whether I’m being called, or just think I am, is harder than I thought it would be. I’ve been praying daily, but there hasn’t really been anything like a “sign”. (Where’s Gideon’s fleece when you need it?) How did you decide that it was your calling?
 
I really don’t know anything about how the program is run in my diocese, but there’s a lot of online information I still need to go through. This would be a major step for me and just figuring out whether I’m being called, or just think I am, is harder than I thought it would be. I’ve been praying daily, but there hasn’t really been anything like a “sign”. (Where’s Gideon’s fleece when you need it?) How did you decide that it was your calling?
I’ve been thinking about it on and off for 3 or 4 years. I started the formal process this year and I’m still not sure. 😉

I just was talking with one of our deacons and he said he was in the third year of formation before he felt he really was called. He said one of the other candidates wasn’t sure until he was writing his letter to request ordination. Part of the process of formation includes discernment that goes bothways. You and the Church are involved in the process.

Even if your diocese has a year or two before the next class starts it can be helpful to start spiritual direction. This can also help with your discernment.

For me I finally decided God wasn’t going to pin a note to my shirt telling me to enter formation so all I could do was put myself forward and then let the Church do with me what She will.
 
Even if your diocese has a year or two before the next class starts it can be helpful to start spiritual direction. This can also help with your discernment.
What do you mean by “spiritual direction”? I’ve never had a spiritual director, though there have been people who kind of wandered into and out of my life, pointing me in the right direction.

Undoubtedly, there’s a post in the forum along the lines of “how do I find a spiritual director?” I need to track it down! 🙂
 
This made me chuckle. I feel the same way in many ways. When I did one of the interviews they asked me why I wanted to be a deacon. I said I don’t know that I do, but everyone else keeps pointing me here, so…

Perhaps in 5 years I will be lying prostrate on the cathedral floor thinking the same as you “well OK, if the bishop thinks this is right, fine.” If that day comes, I’ll still be thinking in the back of my head “God, I think you got the wrong guy, but I’ll fill in for him until you find the right man.” 😉
 
I really don’t know anything about how the program is run in my diocese, but there’s a lot of online information I still need to go through. This would be a major step for me and just figuring out whether I’m being called, or just think I am, is harder than I thought it would be. I’ve been praying daily, but there hasn’t really been anything like a “sign”. (Where’s Gideon’s fleece when you need it?) How did you decide that it was your calling?
My story is very similar to (name removed by moderator)'s story of how he felt compelled to apply. Mine goes back over 10 years though when our pastor was new at our parish and he delivered a homily about what is God calling you to be in your life. I didn’t even really know what a deacon was back then other than the guy who helped Father on the alter. Our pastor must have used the word Deacon in his homily as for some reason I reached out to him to talk about it. He had me talk with one of the guys who was in formation for the diaconate back then, and he got me more involved in the parish (Eucharist to the nursing homes, lector,etc) and taught me how to pray the Liturgy of the hours. I stuck with that for a number of years and was okay with that and really never thought of the diaconate for a number of years. Then in 2014, I was at a men’s retreat and on of the guys there and I were talking and he said “have you ever considered becoming a deacon, because I think you would be an excellent candidate”. I brushed this off. Then later that same day, someone else basically said the same thing and I asked him if he had been talking with the other guy and he denied it. They it happened one more time. Anyhow, about a week or so after the retreat, my wife and I are driving down the road and out of the blue she asks me if I had ever thought any more about that “Deacon thingy” (her words, honestly) that I had looked into about 10 years prior. At that point I looked at her and asked her if the guys from the retreat had called her and she didn’t know what I was talking about. That night, when I was doing my vespers I told God that I heard Him and that He has my attention, but I don’t know what he wanted me to do. I was scared and I felt I just didn’t have the time in my life for this at this point. I prayed over it some more, and I remember waking up in the middle of the night a little frightened… why would He want someone like me? Surly there are much better people out there than me that He could use. I continued to pray over it some more, and then one day I was doing my normal routine but still confused about the diaconate and what to do. So I said to God that I would open my bible and hope to find some words that would inspire me on what I should do. I opened the book at random to Acts 9 - Saul’s Conversion!! Here I was saying that God could find better people that me, but here was Saul, a really bad dude, and God picked him to be one of his messengers. Surly, if God could pick someone like Saul and make him into Paul, then He can do wonders with anyone.

Anyhow, I discussed it with my wife, we made the appointment with the diaconate, and started the application process (that was last year about this time).

Last Thursday, we just had our last interview for admissions into aspirancy, and hopefully in a few weeks, we will find out if the Church believes I am being called. Personally, it would be a lot easier for me to just walk away from all this, but if God is calling me, how would I answer Him one day when we meet and He asks me why did I run away when He called me to serve Him (if He is really calling me for this)?

One of the things that I did last year was get a spiritual director to help me with much of the discernment on my side. The aspirancy year will also do that, but it was suggested by the diaconate director that I get one before I go into aspirancy. My spiritual director has been really helpful and has helped me peal the onion so to speak.

Anyhow, my prayers are with you and invite the Holy Spirit into your life and explore what may be calling you. I don’t think I have seen why you feel you have this calling. There is no wrong or write answer, but it would be interesting to hear.

God bless,

John
 
I’ve been praying the rosary daily, asking for guidance. I feel the need to seek out a spiritual director, so I’m hoping to catch Father for a few minutes after mass.

I was contacted by the diocese, specifically about the diaconate program. As I expected (I’m actually looking forward to it) it’s a multi-year process, starting with at the bottom with parish minister’s formation. Which I gather is the process for perhaps becoming a lector or and Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion. But, I’m open to anything that the parish needs, or the Diocese for that matter.

I’m just starting this journey. I pray along the way I find the discernment I’m hoping for.
 
Half a deacon? :ehh: I am intrigued. 🙂
Actually, our deacon is assigned to two parishes, and splits his time roughly evenly between them, so he really is a half-Deacon, in a way, at each – but he’s always available to all.
 
What was the best decision that you ever made? Your first vocation to your wife?

Peace,

John
 
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