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Muzhik
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What would I need to do, as a lay person, to get permission to preach a sermon, or is that something that is reserved only to the priest/bishop?
Isn’t preaching a bit different from teaching?There are several opportunities for a layman to teach in the church however. Some options to consider
- Children’s Liturgy of the Word
- RCIA classes
- Bible studies
- Adult faith formation
- Confirmation classes
- First Holy Communion classes
- Baptism preparation for parents
What kind of church? Lutheran? Presbyterian? Non-denominational? And have you been invited?What brought this to mind was the possibility of preaching a sermon in a friend’s (Protestant) church. I could be doing a sermon/presentation/lesson (however you want to put it) on the Crucifixion and how all the things that were done to Jesus were in fact prophesied in the Old Testament. Also, I’d want to make the point that you cannot get to the empty tomb without going through the crucifixion first.
Aah. Well… yes, then: if a Protestant denomination allows you to be a guest preacher, then that’s at their discretion. However, in the Catholic Church, only an ordained member of the clergy (i.e., priest or deacon) is able to preach at a Mass.What brought this to mind was the possibility of preaching a sermon in a friend’s (Protestant) church.
If it is an opportunity to present Catholic truth, done with the permission and invitation of whoever is in charge in the friend’s church, how would it not be appropriate?I would stay away from such an undertaking. It is not at all appropriate.
Highly unusual for a non-clergy Roman Catholic to be invited to preach Catholicism in a non-Catholic worship service.If it is an opportunity to present Catholic truth, done with the permission and invitation of whoever is in charge in the friend’s church, how would it not be appropriate?
That isn’t what seems to be happening here, though. It seems to be a look through the Old Testament to show how Jesus’ death and crucifixion was prophesied in Hebrew scripture. This is something that can universally be accepted by Christians of all churches and denominations, I guess.Highly unusual for a non-clergy Roman Catholic to be invited to preach Catholicism in a non-Catholic worship service.
It would be more than that. It would be covering the mechanics of crucifixion, i.e., the crown of thorns was an Eastern-style crown, which is a cap, rather than the image we have of a circlet; death was by exsanguination, i.e., Jesus bled to death, which caused his heart to literally break, as shown by the “blood and water” flowing from the lance wound. A lot of stuff that the protestants, with their emphasis of “the victory of the empty tomb” simply have never learned because it wasn’t important to them. It’s why so many protestants couldn’t understand the Pope’s comments about the Cross during the Mass in Philadelphia, and why so VERY many protestants cannot comprehend what G_D is asking of us when Paul says, “I have been crucified in Christ”.That isn’t what seems to be happening here, though. It seems to be a look through the Old Testament to show how Jesus’ death and crucifixion was prophesied in Hebrew scripture. This is something that can universally be accepted by Christians of all churches and denominations, I guess.
And have you been invited by the powers-that-be to preach this material during the church worship?It would be more than that. It would be covering the mechanics of crucifixion, i.e., the crown of thorns was an Eastern-style crown, which is a cap, rather than the image we have of a circlet; death was by exsanguination, i.e., Jesus bled to death, which caused his heart to literally break, as shown by the “blood and water” flowing from the lance wound. A lot of stuff that the protestants, with their emphasis of “the victory of the empty tomb” simply have never learned because it wasn’t important to them. It’s why so many protestants couldn’t understand the Pope’s comments about the Cross during the Mass in Philadelphia, and why so VERY many protestants cannot comprehend what G_D is asking of us when Paul says, “I have been crucified in Christ”.
It’s more in the “sending out feelers” stage. I wanted to be sure that, as a man under authority, I obeyed that authority (my bishop) before getting too far in the process.And have you been invited by the powers-that-be to preach this material during the church worship?
Non-denominational Christian. The possibility arose from discussions with a friend who mentioned to his minister he has a friend who knows a lot about this stuff. No invitation, I just want to get my ducks in a row so that if there IS an invitation I would be able, in good conscience, accept it (or if unable to accept it, be able to explain why.)What denomination church is it?
And why, if you haven’t been asked, would you see yourself doing this? I’m quite curious.
Of course, there really is no such thing. Every such congregation follows someone’s own version/vision of the faith. That becomes apparent when one attends the service and hears the preaching. The non-denom name is more a marketing device than anything else.Non-denominational Christian.
I think the title ‘non-denominational’ refers more to the authority structure within the larger Christian institution. Roman Catholics have what you call the Magisterium. Anglicans have a similar structure of Deacons, Priests, and Bishops, all of which are structured within a parish and diocese, and then we have the larger Anglican Province - such as the national Episcopal Church of the Church of England, all of which are part of the Anglican Communion.Of course, there really is no such thing. Every such congregation follows someone’s own version/vision of the faith. That becomes apparent when one attends the service and hears the preaching. The non-denom name is more a marketing device than anything else.