Perpetual Adoration live online?

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I found a website that offers Perpetual Adoration live:

webcatolicodejavier.org/adoracioneucaristicaonline.html

It appears to be a chapel that is open 24/7. Sometimes you can see someone going in or out a door on the back.

I like to visit that website in the quiet of the early hours of the day, I light a candle and pray to Him who is above time and distance. :signofcross:

Is it right to do so?

How do you feel about praying before the Most Holy Sacrament online?

Alma
 
Its nice to have it online but I’d much rather go to a chapel for real. Its a good thing for the home bound who may have access to the internet or even travelers who cannot make it to a chapel.
 
It is in no way “wrong” and it may help you in prayer and reflection.

It is no substitute for actually being in that chapel in the literal presence of our Lord. Compare this to a televised Mass, for instance. It has its place, but with significant limitations.
 
I agree with you, it is not the same as being actually there.
During weekdays I go daily to the convent of the Sisters or Perpetual Adoration, but on weekends and especially late at night when it would not be safe to go out, is when I visit that web site that offers Adoration 24/7 online.

Have you tried it? What is your experience about it?

Alma
 
I found a website that offers Perpetual Adoration live:

webcatolicodejavier.org/adoracioneucaristicaonline.html

It appears to be a chapel that is open 24/7. Sometimes you can see someone going in or out a door on the back.

I like to visit that website in the quiet of the early hours of the day, I light a candle and pray to Him who is above time and distance. :signofcross:

Is it right to do so?

How do you feel about praying before the Most Holy Sacrament online?

Alma
Greetings Alma,

I find that it is not the same as if I go to the Adoration Chapel and sit down in His presence. There is nothing wrong with doing this online, it’s just not the same.

My advice is if it helps you in your prayer life and there is no moral objection to it, then by all means do it.

God Bless.
Anathama Sit
 
I found a website that offers Perpetual Adoration live:

webcatolicodejavier.org/adoracioneucaristicaonline.html

It appears to be a chapel that is open 24/7. Sometimes you can see someone going in or out a door on the back.

I like to visit that website in the quiet of the early hours of the day, I light a candle and pray to Him who is above time and distance. :signofcross:

Is it right to do so?

How do you feel about praying before the Most Holy Sacrament online?

Alma
It’s quite fine! It’s important to remember, however, that it would be improper to genuflect in front of the computer screen just as it would be to genuflect in front of a picture of a monstrance! 😃 Even though you’re looking at a live image of Christ, you are not physically present.
 
It’s quite fine! It’s important to remember, however, that it would be improper to genuflect in front of the computer screen just as it would be to genuflect in front of a picture of a monstrance! 😃 Even though you’re looking at a live image of Christ, you are not physically present.
Agreed. The first time through I misread “improper” as “proper” :eek:

I don’t really see a benefit to this practice online, as I don’t really see a difference between a “live” image or a static image, as in a picture. But if it helps one get closer to the Almighty, go for it.
 
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Originally posted by Newbie2
I don’t really see a difference between a ‘live’ image or a static image, as in a picture…

I guess the difference might be that in a ‘live’ image you know you are looking at Him who is actually present at that very same moment somewhere in the world, and you can go there in spirit and adore Him.
The ‘static’ image, as in a picture, could have been taken days, months or years ago. It is not the same.

Of course the best thing is to go to a chapel to adore the Lord really present in the Most Holy Eucharist. There is no substitute for that. But, as I said in another post, when you want to pray before Him very late at night and it is not possible or safe to go out to a chapel, or there is no chapel open at that time, the ‘online’ adoration is the second best thing.
I only wanted to make sure it is a practice approved by the Church.

About genuflecting or even kneeling, I do not think it is wrong if you do not intend to adore the screen itself, but the Lord, of whom the screen gives you an image who reminds you of Him. Don’t you agree?

Alma
 
About genuflecting or even kneeling, I do not think it is wrong if you do not intend to adore the screen itself, but the Lord, of whom the screen gives you an image who reminds you of Him. Don’t you agree?
Greetings Alma,

I can agree with this. It’s why we have pictures of the saints around, we don’t venerate the pictures, we honor and remember the saints whom they represent.

God Bless.
Anathama Sit
 
Although it is probably not officially sinful, I find the whole idea of virtual worship to be extremely crass and a bad example for newly formed Catholics. As such, I would never encourage the practice nor permit it to occur in my presence.

The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is offered every day, everywhere in the world. We should support our holy priests who offer the Mass in all its forms. Attend Mass and Adoration at your local parish. Pray without ceasing. Avoid virtual “stunts”.
 
Although it is probably not officially sinful, I find the whole idea of virtual worship to be extremely crass and a bad example for newly formed Catholics. As such, I would never encourage the practice nor permit it to occur in my presence.

The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is offered every day, everywhere in the world. We should support our holy priests who offer the Mass in all its forms. Attend Mass and Adoration at your local parish. Pray without ceasing. Avoid virtual “stunts”.
Greetings Mick321,

I can understand your point of view, however what about those who are homebound and cannot get to Mass. EWTN is a blessing. I am sure that Online Adoration is a blessing for them too. What about those who can’t get to an Adoration chapel and want some time looking at the Blessed Sacrament?

God Bless.
Anathama Sit
 
I agree with you, it is not the same as being actually there.
During weekdays I go daily to the convent of the Sisters or Perpetual Adoration, but on weekends and especially late at night when it would not be safe to go out, is when I visit that web site that offers Adoration 24/7 online.

Have you tried it? What is your experience about it?

Alma
I agree with you on this. However; I don’t think there’s anything wrong acknowledging Jesus Holy presence in the Monstrance with a reflective bow of the head.

Even though it is a live video feed produced by the electronic media, the Live Presence of Christ in the Monstrance within the video isn’t held by the confines of the electronic media.
 
Sorry if this sounds a little crass, but I clicked on the link, and although it was good for a few minutes of meditation, I thought it was like the difference between eating a meal and watching other people eat a meal. Definitely not the same! But I can see how it would be helpful to someone who could not get to Adoration, at least for a few minutes of prayer.
 
Sorry if this sounds a little crass, but I clicked on the link, and although it was good for a few minutes of meditation, I thought it was like the difference between eating a meal and watching other people eat a meal. Definitely not the same! But I can see how it would be helpful to someone who could not get to Adoration, at least for a few minutes of prayer.
I can understand your views.

Its too bad the distraction of people coming in and out of video shot was a distraction.
But then you probably wouldn’t have a true prospective that the video was actually live if the video focused on the Monstrance itself.
 
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Originally posted by Newbie2
I don’t really see a difference between a ‘live’ image or a static image, as in a picture…

I guess the difference might be that in a ‘live’ image you know you are looking at Him who is actually present at that very same moment somewhere in the world, and you can go there in spirit and adore Him.
The ‘static’ image, as in a picture, could have been taken days, months or years ago. It is not the same.

Of course the best thing is to go to a chapel to adore the Lord really present in the Most Holy Eucharist. There is no substitute for that. But, as I said in another post, when you want to pray before Him very late at night and it is not possible or safe to go out to a chapel, or there is no chapel open at that time, the ‘online’ adoration is the second best thing.
I only wanted to make sure it is a practice approved by the Church.

About genuflecting or even kneeling, I do not think it is wrong if you do not intend to adore the screen itself, but the Lord, of whom the screen gives you an image who reminds you of Him. Don’t you agree?

Alma
I have mixed thoughts on genuflecting or kneeling, as well as a live image vs. a static one.

I get the point about a static image, but let’s use for exmaple a video feed that locked up a minute before and you’re looking at a static image that is representational of the live feed. Both are images, not the real thing.

I guess my point is that a live electronic image is in one sense the same as even a painting of the monstrance. It is a representation (albeit in real time), not the real deal.

As long as one understands the perspective of the screen vs. the Lord, it would be OK…but still, it seems very odd to me.
 
I have mixed thoughts on genuflecting or kneeling, as well as a live image vs. a static one.

I get the point about a static image, but let’s use for exmaple a video feed that locked up a minute before and you’re looking at a static image that is representational of the live feed. Both are images, not the real thing.

I guess my point is that a live electronic image is in one sense the same as even a painting of the monstrance. It is a representation (albeit in real time), not the real deal.

As long as one understands the perspective of the screen vs. the Lord, it would be OK…but still, it seems very odd to me.
Perhaps the same spiritual benefits of watching a live video feed of the Blessed Sacrament in the Monstrance could be likened to those unable to go to Mass watching a live video feed of Mass for Shut-Ins and praying for a Spiritual Communion.
 
Perhaps the same spiritual benefits of watching a live video feed of the Blessed Sacrament in the Monstrance could be likened to those unable to go to Mass watching a live video feed of Mass for Shut-Ins and praying for a Spiritual Communion.
Yeah, that’s kind of what I was thinking on the positive side.
 
We can’t forget the sacrifice we make by actually going.

Getting up and leaving the house early for work to stop by and converse with the Lord, taking time after work, even thoug you want to get home, or waking up in the middle of the night and spending an hour with Jesus knowing that we are going to be especially tired the next day, are all sacrifices for our Lord who sacrificed so much for us. I can’t imagine that God doesn’t find these sacrifices of time and effort pleasing.

We also can’t forget that the adoration chapel is a consecrated, sacred space

It is dedicated exclusively to prayer and adoration of the sacramental presence of Christ. It is not used to surf the internet, to cook dinner, or to have a conversation with anyone, no matter how much you may love that person, other than Jesus. There are things that happen liturgically and spiritually within the setting of Christ’s Holy Catholic Church which do not happen anywhere else in the world, not should they. Liturgical-responsoral prayer is used exclusively within the context of the Church and worship of God. The priests vestments are exclusive to the Mass and worship of God. The chalice is a sacred vessel - most people would be shocked to see it at the dinnner table. Where do you see kneelers outside of Church? They are all consecrated, sacred, holy, dedicated exclusivly to worship of God.

*I think making the sacrifice, taking the time and expending the effort to actually go and to consecrate that time exclusively to God, is pleasing to him. I also think it is important to go to that sacred place, to use that sacred language, to see that sacred furniture and sacred vessels, and to be in communion with other member’s of Christ’s body who are doing so as well, is extremely important. *

The Israelites believed that the only place in which true worship could be offered to God was the Jerusalem temple. The temple was a holy place - where God himself dwelt with men. The opposite of sacred is profane and the Israelites understood this. That’s why everyone was required to come to the temple three times each year.

Its important that we get away from the profane, to a place that is sacred, a place that his holy, dedicated only to God, and to dedicate that time and effort to God in return.

-Tim-
 
Sorry if this sounds a little crass, but I clicked on the link, and although it was good for a few minutes of meditation, I thought it was like the difference between eating a meal and watching other people eat a meal. Definitely not the same! But I can see how it would be helpful to someone who could not get to Adoration, at least for a few minutes of prayer.
I have always received great spiritual benefits from online adoration. I highly suggest that if a person thinks against it – think again.

Thanks to Alma for the link, finally another site devoted to it. They are hard to find. There are two others off the links below.
 
Timothy: I want to comment on some of the things you said (your quotes are in blue)

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Getting up and leaving the house early for work to stop by and converse with the Lord, taking time after work, even thoug you want to get home

Online adoration is not supposed to replace the real thing, is is meant for those who can’t get up and leave the house

or waking up in the middle of the night and spending an hour with Jesus knowing that we are going to be especially tired the next day, are all sacrifices for our Lord who sacrificed so much for us. I can’t imagine that God doesn’t find these sacrifices of time and effort pleasing.

If you wake up in the middle of the night you probably will not go out to an Adoration Chapel at that hour; this is exactly what live Adoration online is for.

We also can’t forget that the adoration chapel is a consecrated, sacred space
Where do you see kneelers outside of Church? They are all consecrated, sacred, holy, dedicated exclusivly to worship of God.

I never heard the kneelers were consecrated. :hmmm:

*I think making the sacrifice, taking the time and expending the effort to actually go and to consecrate that time exclusively to God, is pleasing to him. I also think it is important to go to that sacred place, to use that sacred language, to see that sacred furniture and sacred vessels, and to be in communion with other member’s of Christ’s body who are doing so as well, is extremely important. *

It is important to insist that Live Adoration online is not intended to substitute going to a Chapel, but only to help those who can’t go, to be able to have adoration at home.

The Israelites believed that the only place in which true worship could be offered to God was the Jerusalem temple. The temple was a holy place - where God himself dwelt with men. The opposite of sacred is profane and the Israelites understood this. That’s why everyone was required to come to the temple three times each year.

Yes, but remember Jesus told the samaritan woman that one day we should all worship Him in spirit and in truth; that may apply to the case of people who, for some valid reason, cannot go to the church.

Its important that we get away from the profane, to a place that is sacred, a place that his holy, dedicated only to God, and to dedicate that time and effort to God in return.
-Tim-

I agree, but let me tell you that sometimes, when I finish my work really late at night (and I mean really late, like 3 o 4 am, when it would definetly not be safe to go out), and I want to spend a little time in prayer and I visit the Live Adoration web site, I turn off the lights, I lit a candle and the atmosphere of the room changes. It is all dark, except for the candle and the live image in the screen. And in the silence, in the stilness of the night, it really feels like the room becomes a sacred place.
And please don’t get me wrong, I am NOT praying to the screen, I am praying to the Lord, whose image in the screen helps me focus on Him who is above time and distance.

What do you think? Would you be willing to tray it?

Alma
 
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