Perplexed abour Priests Attitude Towards Me.

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Exactly CatholicMom! Thanks you -that is what I wanted -a Spiritual Director! That is probably the way I should have explained it. Like someone to feel easy enough to ask after Mass or in Confession a question if you have one -you know?
 
HI I added a bit to my reply last. This is a hard topic for me. I am going to be seeing a Sister for this from now on for spiritual direction. I think it is best. I am just going to find a new confessor.
 
Exactly CatholicMom! Thanks you -that is what I wanted -a Spiritual Director! That is probably the way I should have explained it. Like someone to feel easy enough to ask after Mass or in Confession a question if you have one -you know?
I do not know what it is like in Australia, but here in the States, a person who agrees to be your spiritual director will normally not also be a social friend. It is one or the other. I have had a priest friend tell me, “They told us in seminary not to choose a friend as a spiritual director. You can always find someone else as a spiritual director, but true friends are hard to come by.”
 
I do not know what it is like in Australia, but here in the States, a person who agrees to be your spiritual director will normally not also be a social friend. It is one or the other. I have had a priest friend tell me, “They told us in seminary not to choose a friend as a spiritual director. You can always find someone else as a spiritual director, but true friends are hard to come by.”
Exactly!! Not to be your social friend. Which is nice so they can give you the best direction possible.
 
Maybe its the other way around and he thinks you are attracted to him because you are so excited about a priest your own age. Priests are not in the business of being best buddies with women and they shouldn’t be. Give your time and worry to our lord, your husband and family and let the priest do his job as a spiritual father.
 
Exactly!! Not to be your social friend. Which is nice so they can give you the best direction possible.
My exactly too! I found I was at a stage in my spiritual development when I am so hungry for answer to so many questions on the Catholic faith and here was someone I just wanted to ask questions of. A Spiritual Director, though not being the same as a friend, is still someone more important than a counsellor or a psychologust. Remember Jesus talking to the Samaritan woman?
 
Maybe its the other way around and he thinks you are attracted to him because you are so excited about a priest your own age. Priests are not in the business of being best buddies with women and they shouldn’t be. Give your time and worry to our lord, your husband and family and let the priest do his job as a spiritual father.
I wasn’t really expecting him to be best buddies. I’m finding it disturbing though the notion that somehow Priests are not meant to be human? They need their time off, they need friends (YES even a “best friend” be it a woman or more likely a man!) So they SHOULD be in the habit of having a network of friends and support people. What they have chosen to do is extremely rewarding yet challenging role and I think they would ultimately fail at that if they did not try to live a normal human life. ie: Exercise, family, friends, health management, stress management, leisure time. Yet, this is something that I have read and noticed that alot of Priests tend to neglect and that the laity tend to forget.
 
You’ve sent this guy 4 emails. He hasn’t responded to the last 2. One of which (the prayer request) does not always require a response, but can get added to the parish list and is assumed information.

You are now being eaten up inside wondering why he has cut you off and is avoiding you. You conclude this is due to his sexual attraction to you.

I think you are the one attracted to him, and not the other way around. He probably has no idea what is going on and hasn’t given two thoughts about you.
 
I wasn’t really expecting him to be best buddies. I’m finding it disturbing though the notion that somehow Priests are not meant to be human? They need their time off, they need friends (YES even a “best friend” be it a woman or more likely a man!) So they SHOULD be in the habit of having a network of friends and support people. What they have chosen to do is extremely rewarding yet challenging role and I think they would ultimately fail at that if they did not try to live a normal human life. ie: Exercise, family, friends, health management, stress management, leisure time. Yet, this is something that I have read and noticed that alot of Priests tend to neglect and that the laity tend to forget.
No, I really don’t think a priest has any business being “best friends” with a woman. You’re right that priests human companionship. They have a hard, lonely job and they need our prayers. I think that their friends tend to be other priests and friends they’ve had since before they were priests. With everybody else, I think they are always going to be a priest. There is something about the position that puts them on a different level than the laity.

Of particular importance is the need for propriety. A priest can’t be too friendly with a woman. Even if he’s an utter saint, it just looks bad. And, if it’s in any way a form of temptation, that’s a problem, too.

Priests have very hard job. They need our prayers and support.
 
It is at the end of the day here in Australia and I’d like to thank all my fellow Catholics worldwide for their thoughts. If anything, this forum is a lovely reminder that in a huge world we have brothers and sisters in Christ everywhere. Good night from AUS and God Bless and thanks the Lord for Priests in Every corner of the Globe, Amen.
 
Priests very,very,very often are the target of satan and we need always to pray or them.Sometimes these attacks can and do cause visable torment and inside they could be tested by Father in spirit this is well documented work hazard.Pray for him and as far as your looks we men AND woman always appreciate Fathers gifts.Have you ever met ugly person who has great grace and some kind of beauty we can’t discribe?Don’t read to much about our looks but focus more on our sins and while there say pray for me thanks.
 
From the info you gave, AussieAnn, I would not jump to the conclusion that he is attracted to you and therefore is acting stangely. There could be many reasons. Now that you’ve made this assumption, you may unconsciously act different towards him! If I were you, I’d just continue acting as you normally would and try not analyze his actions too much. Don’t let it upset you if he failed to respond to an email. If the opportunity comes up later, try inviting him again. Don’t jump to any conclusions before you have enough facts.
 
Aussie Ann,

Welcome to the forums!

I just wanted to let you know that I can entirely commiserate with you, having recently been in nearly the exact same situation myself.

Our priest is relatively young (I would guess in his 40s), and I am 26, married, mother of two, and somewhat attractive (minus the baby pounds, that is). We joined our parish less than a year ago and even had Father come over to bless our new home. He was so cheerful and friendly and outgoing at first. My husband and I were so relieved to have, finally, a very orthodox priest, and a younger one who cares about being a part of the lives of his parishoners.

It took very little time for me to connect with what we call the “core group” in our parish – those who serve, attend daily Mass, and participate in Adoration and other regular activities. I was (and still am) so thrilled to be a part of something God is doing at this parish. And I had high hopes of our family, myself included, developing a relationship with our wonderful priest.

So you can imagine my dismay when last September I called to invite him to dinner at our house (with the whole family, of course), and he didn’t return my call. Ever. A month later we saw him at our Family Life Apostolate gathering, and he apologized for not getting back to me, explaining that he had been incredibly busy visiting the sick and the elderly, and with other needs at the church. I find this entirely plausible, given there is one priest here to serve 2,500 families! But I was confused, since he had only recently said he would be glad to come, if only we’d call the office to schedule. Nevertheless, I made up my mind to assume the very best, and I waited for other opportunities to get to know him better, during regular events at the church.

But events came and went, and Father seemed to be avoiding us, never saying more than a single-word hello when we greeted him. Never “how is your daughter?” (who is severely disabled). Never “how are you?” Never even much of a response to inquiry as to how he was doing. Once I went to greet him after Mass so that he could give our daughter a special blessing, and he looked up, saw us standing there, and turned around to interrupt some other folks who were talking and say hello to them! I was dumbfounded, literally. Why in the world would a priest behave so oddly?

After weeks, and then months of this behavior, I came to realize that during the times we were together – particularly in the confesssional – there was indeed something I could only describe as tension between us. Not once did either of us act or speak inappropriately. ** If anything, we acted downright Victorian in our politeness! Something was off. We were both too stilted, too uncomfortable**. It was then that I knew of a certainty that, for whatever strange reason, what had once begun with a strong conversational bond and likemindedness had developed into something other. It was as though a silent communication passed, something too dangerous to risk putting into words, that we were fond of one another. This seems on the one hand like an oddity, because our priest is about five foot even, twenty years older, and a bit pudgy himself! But on the other, it was only natural, given our passion for the current issues facing our Church and the battle we are fighting against modern heresies and cultural evils.

Upon this realization, though it was, and still is, very difficult for me to do, I began to back off from communicating with our priest, whom I hold in the highest esteem. If I am correct about his end of this problem (I know that I am about mine), then it would be a mistake to place myself, and thereby place him, into harm’s way. I don’t like it. It isn’t fun, and it’s certainly not what I hoped for, but I can see no other option. Perhaps over the months and years the tension between us will ease, and we will be able to relate as good friends, but I am prepared to sacrifice that permanently if that is what is necessary.

You and I both know how rare an orthodox priest is these days. One who follows our Holy Father with abandon. One who loves Christ and the Blessed Mother enough to die for them. I believe our priest is just such a man. Because of this, I believe there are few men on earth Satan would like more to destroy, and he will use any means possible. If I think there is a hint, a possibility of a chance that I could be used as a weapon of undoing the holiness of our priest, however much it pains me, I will remove myself from him to protect him.
 
Aussie Ann,

Welcome to the forums!

I just wanted to let you know that I can entirely commiserate with you, having recently been in nearly the exact same situation myself.

Our priest is relatively young (I would guess in his 40s), and I am 26, married, mother of two, and somewhat attractive (minus the baby pounds, that is). We joined our parish less than a year ago and even had Father come over to bless our new home. He was so cheerful and friendly and outgoing at first. My husband and I were so relieved to have, finally, a very orthodox priest, and a younger one who cares about being a part of the lives of his parishoners.

It took very little time for me to connect with what we call the “core group” in our parish – those who serve, attend daily Mass, and participate in Adoration and other regular activities. I was (and still am) so thrilled to be a part of something God is doing at this parish. And I had high hopes of our family, myself included, developing a relationship with our wonderful priest.

So you can imagine my dismay when last September I called to invite him to dinner at our house (with the whole family, of course), and he didn’t return my call. Ever…

…events came and went, and Father seemed to be avoiding us, never saying more than a single-word hello when we greeted him. Never “how is your daughter?” (who is severely disabled). Never “how are you?” Never even much of a response to inquiry as to how he was doing. Once I went to greet him after Mass so that he could give our daughter a special blessing, and he looked up, saw us standing there, and turned around to interrupt some other folks who were talking and say hello to them! I was dumbfounded, literally. Why in the world would a priest behave so oddly?

After weeks, and then months of this behavior, I came to realize that during the times we were together – particularly in the confesssional – there was indeed something I could only describe as tension between us. Not once did either of us act or speak inappropriately. ** If anything, we acted downright Victorian in our politeness! Something was off. We were both too stilted, too uncomfortable**. It was then that I knew of a certainty that, for whatever strange reason, what had once begun with a strong conversational bond and likemindedness had developed into something other…
I don’t know if this is so much a case of the evil one tormenting your priests as much as it is a case of the evil one tormenting you. Don’t you two have any friends who have been too busy to make a dinner date with you? You might also ask yourselves exactly what sort of social needs you are expecting your pastors to fill. I do not mean you should not have those needs. Being home with kids can be lonely, particularly if those children have special needs. The question is whether your priests are the best ones to fill those needs. I would suggest that you find someone for that purpose with whom a social relationship would be more reciprocal, like another mom or family in a similar situation.

I think you two are reading way more into your relationships with the priests whose attentions you crave than you ought to. Yes, your pastors or pastoral associates may be distancing themselves from you, but not for the reason you think. If you are not content to have your pastor treat you the same as every other parishioner–indeed, if you are in the “core group”, if you are not willing to have him make an extra effort to connect with those outside that group, in preference to you–then you need to examine why you think this special attention would be warranted or beneficial to you. Honestly, hearing talk about being in the “core group”, I wonder if your priests are not concerned so much about their one sexual feelings about you as they are concerned that you are being tempted to try to become some sort of teacher’s pets.

As for socializing with your priests, let it be for their refreshment, and not for yours. If it does not fit their schedule or your family does not meet that need for them, so be it. Keep the main thing the main thing. You will have all eternity to enjoy each other in the deepest, most intimate, and most appropriate way possible: that is, in singing the praises of God together. That’s the main thing.
 
I don’t know if this is so much a case of the evil one tormenting your priests as much as it is a case of the evil one tormenting you. Don’t you two have any friends who have been too busy to make a dinner date with you? You might also ask yourselves exactly what sort of social needs you are expecting your pastors to fill. I do not mean you should not have those needs. Being home with kids can be lonely, particularly if those children have special needs. The question is whether your priests are the best ones to fill those needs. I would suggest that you find someone for that purpose with whom a social relationship would be more reciprocal, like another mom or family in a similar situation.

I think you two are reading way more into your relationships with the priests whose attentions you crave than you ought to. Yes, your pastors or pastoral associates may be distancing themselves from you, but not for the reason you think. If you are not content to have your pastor treat you the same as every other parishioner–indeed, if you are in the “core group”, if you are not willing to have him make an extra effort to connect with those outside that group, in preference to you–then you need to examine why you think this special attention would be warranted or beneficial to you. Honestly, hearing talk about being in the “core group”, I wonder if your priests are not concerned so much about their one sexual feelings about you as they are concerned that you are being tempted to try to become some sort of teacher’s pets.

As for socializing with your priests, let it be for their refreshment, and not for yours. If it does not fit their schedule or your family does not meet that need for them, so be it. Keep the main thing the main thing. You will have all eternity to enjoy each other in the deepest, most intimate, and most appropriate way possible: that is, in singing the praises of God together. That’s the main thing.
In the interests of time and keeping the thread true to the original post, I will not here go into all the detail that leads me to my conclusion. Suffice it to say that our priest has become very closely involved in the lives of other young families in the church. Apparently he doesn’t think of them as brown-nosers or teacher’s-pet-wannbes. One family in particular has not been at the parish much longer than we have, yet they have been able to develop a close relationship with the priest, having him over somewhat regularly.

I have read enough to know that it is not uncommon, nor is it inappropriate, for a priest to become involved in the lives of his parishoners. That is what the very office of “pastor” entails – shepherding a flock. Our own priest, in fact, has spoken often of how important it is to become part of these families, both to him personally and to the families. It is a two-way giving relationship. He has no earthly spouse, yet he is our spiritual father. A pastor is meant to be involved in the lives of those he leads, not merely a figurehead, but a real and practical leader. Our priest said recently that he wants to “laugh with us and cry with us.” Am I to take that to mean he wants to laugh and cry with everyone … but us?

Furthermore, it is not good to downplay the significant help that a priest brings to the lives of his flock. He is a spiritual counselor. A friend during hard times. A figure of accountability for youth. And much more. And to him, his flock is his family. We lift him up in prayer. We give him our homes and hot meals. We let him experience the joy of parenthood with us as he directs our children and watches them grow. I have known priests who were very lonely men, because nobody thought to welcome them in, cook for them, and keep them company. This would be true neglect on the part of the faithful.

I find it disheartening that my intentions would be misread here. The idea was never to make our priest the sort of personal companion that only another woman or a relative should be. I neither want nor expect him to meet the needs that are meant to be met by others. I simply want (-ed) for our family to experience the same joy of close relationship that is natural and common for families to experience with their pastor. What possible ill intent could there be in this? I not only wish it for those in the “core group,” but most especially for those who participate and serve less. They need it more than we do! How could I begrudge them? Indeed, I have not.

And finally, other women can testify with me in this: there is the friend who is simply too busy to call back; and then there is the friend who all of a sudden behaves strangely around you and acts oddly aloof. After this much time, I can tell the difference. We are clearly being avoided.
 
In the interests of time and keeping the thread true to the original post, I will not here go into all the detail that leads me to my conclusion. Suffice it to say that our priest has become very closely involved in the lives of other young families in the church. Apparently he doesn’t think of them as brown-nosers or teacher’s-pet-wannbes. One family in particular has not been at the parish much longer than we have, yet they have been able to develop a close relationship with the priest, having him over somewhat regularly.

I have read enough to know that it is not uncommon, nor is it inappropriate, for a priest to become involved in the lives of his parishoners. That is what the very office of “pastor” entails – shepherding a flock. Our own priest, in fact, has spoken often of how important it is to become part of these families, both to him personally and to the families. It is a two-way giving relationship. He has no earthly spouse, yet he is our spiritual father. A pastor is meant to be involved in the lives of those he leads, not merely a figurehead, but a real and practical leader. Our priest said recently that he wants to “laugh with us and cry with us.” Am I to take that to mean he wants to laugh and cry with everyone … but us?

I find it disheartening that my intentions would be misread here. The idea was never to make our priest the sort of personal companion that only another woman or a relative should be. I neither want nor expect him to meet the needs that are meant to be met by others. I simply want (-ed) for our family to experience the same joy of close relationship that is natural and common for families to experience with their pastor. What possible ill intent could there be in this? I not only wish it for those in the “core group,” but most especially for those who participate and serve less. They need it more than we do! How could I begrudge them? Indeed, I have not.

Furthermore, it is not good to downplay the significant help that a priest brings to the lives of his flock. He is a spiritual counselor. A friend during hard times. A figure of accountability for youth. And much more. And to him, his flock is his family. We lift him up in prayer. We give him our homes and hot meals. We let him experience the joy of parenthood with us as he directs our children and watches them grow. I have known priests who were very lonely men, because nobody thought to welcome them in, cook for them, and keep them company. This would be true neglect on the part of the faithful.

And finally, other women can testify with me in this: there is the friend who is simply too busy to call back; and then there is the friend who all of a sudden behaves strangely around you and acts oddly aloof. After this much time, I can tell the difference. We are clearly being avoided.
I grew up with a pastor who came to our house for dinner about 20 times a year. I know how that works. It is truly commendable to welcome your pastor into your home. There is nothing inappropriate about it. It is a blessing, and there is nothing wrong with desiring it.

You must realize, though, that having a pastor who feels it is in everyone’s best interest to socialize with your particular family doesn’t always happen. It can’t always happen. If he is not in a hurry to socialize with you, then, respect that. You are not entitled to have him choose you over anyone else in the parish. Neither are you entitled to some “fair” amount of his time. If he does not choose you, then do everyone a favor and do not read a lot into it. It does you no good to make conjectures about why it is, except to know that there are good reasons, and to charitably assume that he acts on one of them. It is up to the priest to choose the situation he thinks best. He doesn’t owe you an explanation.

If you have honestly tried and cannot help but think he’s avoiding you, then ask him about it. If he has done something that hurts your feelings, you can tell him. I don’t know your priests, but I’m pretty sure they aren’t mind-readers. If you can just cut him some slack and give him some room, though, or if you can work this out by talking it over with a different priest, I think that the better option, for everyone’s sake.

I do not mean, by the way, that you should avoid him forever! I mean that you should make the spiritual effort to get over any undue attachment you have with regards to his attentions before you try again to establish a relationship between him and your family. Having waited for some time to pass, of course you might bring up the subject in person of entertaining him at your home at some particular event for which you give him plenty of advance notice, and see what happens. You might even casually mention at present that the invitation to come over for coffee is still open, if there is an interest. But as long as you have so much anxiety over this, it is just my opinion that you would do better not to press the matter in any way until you have less of an emotional investment in his answer.
 
I find it very dangerous to analyze another persons thoughts and behaviors. There is absolutely no way to know why the man behaves as he does unless he tells you himself; and it would be in poor taste to ask in this situation.
Agreed! I also wonder why the OP is so obsessed with what this Priest is doing or feeling. 🤷
 
Yes, it is hard not to analyse when you are the brunt of whatever is going on there though. A natural immediate reaction is: What have I done? It would be virtually impossible to be otherwise -male or female.
How do you know his actions have anything to do with you? His mind could be on many things that have not a thing to do with you.
 
How do you know his actions have anything to do with you? His mind could be on many things that have not a thing to do with you.
This is quite true, and it is worth remembering when one is tempted to have hurt feelings.
 
You’ve sent this guy 4 emails. He hasn’t responded to the last 2. One of which (the prayer request) does not always require a response, but can get added to the parish list and is assumed information.

You are now being eaten up inside wondering why he has cut you off and is avoiding you. You conclude this is due to his sexual attraction to you.

I think you are the one attracted to him, and not the other way around. He probably has no idea what is going on and hasn’t given two thoughts about you.
Bingo!👍
 
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