Pet peeve, literally a peeve about pets!

[warpspeedpetey]

Yes, it’s a sequel.
And positing emotions in animals, if they in some sense or another had a kind of sense of God’s purpose for them, this would be their happiness. To be the food, the provender of man.

you know, i have a similar idea on the man/G-d relationship.

people have this idea that we are put here for our own satisfaction, for our own morality so to speak.

yet when i make a tool on the forge i make it for my purpose, i make it for my satisfaction.

point being that we are here for His purposes, not what is pleasant or satisfying to us.

happiness for me is in the fulfill ment of that purpose, as anytime i try to live for my own satisfaction, i am quickly disabused of that notion.

just a thought

 

[warpspeedpetey]

:clapping:

Actually if I had to choose between a starving dog and a starving homeless person, what I would do is feed the dog to the homeless person.

 

[BlyssfulDreamer]

BTW, they’re making some quite realistic animal/robots these days. To the point where they can and do fool people.

Elderly in Japanese nursing homes are given robotic animals that do not die and cannot harm them, but do respond to them in ways that mentally stimulate them and improve their mood.

So the roomba example is a pretty good one! lol.

Well, that is all well and good and if it gives comfort then fine. But, as for me…I will stick with the wet nose and the furry face of my cocker spaniel.

 

[Shin]

you know, i have a similar idea on the man/G-d relationship.

people have this idea that we are put here for our own satisfaction, for our own morality so to speak.

yet when i make a tool on the forge i make it for my purpose, i make it for my satisfaction.

point being that we are here for His purposes, not what is pleasant or satisfying to us.

happiness for me is in the fulfill ment of that purpose, as anytime i try to live for my own satisfaction, i am quickly disabused of that notion.

just a thought

Now **that **is a good and right thought that bears keeping in mind.

 

[BlyssfulDreamer]

:clapping:

 

[limerick]

Actually if I had to choose between a starving dog and a starving homeless person, what I would do is feed the dog to the homeless person.

If the starving homeless person were inclined to eat a starving dog, he would not need an interloper to feed it to him. Why would you think you had some part to play in the scenario?

Limerick

 

[Cracker_Mom]

Actually if I had to choose between a starving dog and a starving homeless person, what I would do is feed the dog to the homeless person.

That was pretty good!

 

[warpspeedpetey]

" … thats because you think you and the dog are equals. i aint buying it, its easy enough to make that arguement when you aren’t actually starving."

And just as easy for you to make your argument when you aren’t actually starving. Have you missed a meal lately? I would bet you have no idea what your mind and body would tell you under the given circumstances.

more stalkery, its all about me isn’t it? im bad, im evil, im wrong. me me me me me.

been there, i did what i had to do to eat. you would be making a bad bet, but if you dont believe me, then check out the donner party, humans are known for cannibalism in those situations.

And really, what does it matter? If you would beat the tar out of the person handing food to the dog, either to seize the food for sustenance or to make a philosophical or moral point, you and your actions would come to be judged by God, who is the only being with the authority to assess your behavior

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yeah, and he says i can eat the dog,

further the passage this morning was over lazarus and the rich man, we know the judgement of people who fail to care for the lazaruses’ of the world.

If a different man lay starving and felt empathy for the hungry dog, and found kinship with him as he was handed the food, and prayed that God would send along another soul who would treat him with equal kindness and respect, which suffering person do you believe God would look upon with more mercy in his hour of judgment?

? i assume you propose to know, is that in Scripture somewhere?

Much earlier on this thread, you proposed that every suffering person is Christ. Which of the two suffering men referred to above bears a closer resemblance to Christ?

did Christ pray for strays? get real.

Old dogs can learn new tricks. Sometimes people can learn new ways of embracing God’s world.

Limerick

if im starving im going to embrace eating that dog is what im going to do.

but you cant help the stalkery can you? do you still ahve some illusion you can ‘rein me in’ or are you just really desperate to be right, no matter how ridiculous the argument you have to make is?

you admitted suspect motives only a few posts ago, why do you feel the need to ‘rein me in’? what does it matter to you?

but welcome to the rodeo, hope you brought a clown

 

[warpspeedpetey]

Oh, sorry I missed that. LOL…and as I remember I have seen those on TV.

So, you are saying there is no difference between a robot vacuum and an animal? When was the last time you saw a robot vacuum assist a disabled person…

my mom has a little robotic picker upper at the nursing home.

or when was the last time you saw a robot vacuum give you comfort when you were sad? Yep, they are the same…no difference…uh-huh…

ive never had an animal give me comfort when i was sad. that would be projecting anthropomorphism on the animal.

 

[warpspeedpetey]

If the starving homeless person were inclined to eat a starving dog, he would not need an interloper to feed it to him. Why would you think you had some part to play in the scenario?

Limerick

the dog aint fixing to let him eat it without a fight.

 

[Shin]

If the starving homeless person were inclined to eat a starving dog, he would not need an interloper to feed it to him. Why would you think you had some part to play in the scenario?

Limerick

I dunno I barbeque some mean doggies on the grill, he might not have my talent for grilling and basting.

 

[limerick]

you know, i have a similar idea on the man/G-d relationship.

people have this idea that we are put here for our own satisfaction, for our own morality so to speak.

yet when i make a tool on the forge i make it for my purpose, i make it for my satisfaction.

point being that we are here for His purposes, not what is pleasant or satisfying to us.

happiness for me is in the fulfill ment of that purpose, as anytime i try to live for my own satisfaction, i am quickly disabused of that notion.

just a thought

Would you say your posts on this thread exhibit a fulfillment of God’s purpose(s) or are you engaging in these communications for your own satisfaction? How are you glorifying God by your thoughts, words and deeds? Do you think God looks approvingly upon you when you tell me I’m creepy? That I’m a stalker? That my beliefs, and others’ ideas and beliefs, have absolutely no merit just because you deem it so?

Do you believe that arrogance is a mindset superior to empathy? What is warpspeedpetey’s understanding of empathy and its purpose in this self-aggrandizing world, where people eat dogs, people eat people, and people feel like kings when they vanquish connectedness?

It will not surprise me when you end-run the questions, or you lean on one-liners to abdicate responding honestly.

Limerick

 

[limerick]

warpspeedpetey,

We all know about the Donner Party, we all know about the plane crashes in the Andes and other remote spots, we all know about cannibalism. We also know that these people were thrust into these situations quite unexpectedly and did not have shops and restaurants and bars to duck into for heat like the frozen man in your downtown Kansas City area. There were no dumpsters to dive at Donner Pass.

Want to bring this back down to earth and deflate the hysteria?

Limerick

 

[warpspeedpetey]

Would you say your posts on this thread exhibit a fulfillment of God’s purpose(s) or are you engaging in these communications for your own satisfaction?

would you say that your personal crusade to ‘rein’ me in is for you r personal satifaction or do you claim to be fulfilling G-d spurpose?

or are you trying to get a date? im not playing hard to get, im really not interested.

since this post is once again about me me me me me me, stalking

How are you glorifying God by your thoughts, words and deeds? Do you think God looks approvingly upon you when you tell me I’m creepy? That I’m a stalker?

 

[Shin]

warpspeedpetey,

We all know about the Donner Party, we all know about the plane crashes in the Andes and other remote spots, we all know about cannibalism. We also know that these people were thrust into these situations quite unexpectedly and did not have shops and restaurants and bars to duck into for heat like the frozen man in your downtown Kansas City area. There were no dumpsters to dive at Donner Pass.

Want to bring this back down to earth and deflate the hysteria?

Limerick

I wonder if you, stranded in the wilderness and having to choose between eating Joe or Joe’s dog, would choose Joe instead?

Just curious. I’m not planning on going on any camping trips with you soon.

 

[Contarini]

Look the thing is, you can illustrate examples of animal cruelty all you want but what you said about animals being defenseless little critters on a basic level is something I just couldn’t stand.

The fact that you can’t stand it is not an argument. It is your misfortune.

The fact is that the most dangerous animals out there have far more to fear from us than we do from them. Compare the number of humans killed by sharks with the number of sharks killed by humans.

It made you sound like a PETA acolyte.

Again, you resort to an irrational technique (guilt by association) when reason fails. This is not impressive.

Edwin

 

[Contarini]

oh, sorry, the argument has been made earlier in the thread.

a roomba is a little robot vacuum, you know from TV?

animals are simply chemically programmed, robots, or, ‘meatbots’, from a chemistry standpoint.

i was making the point that there is no differrence between the two, other than chemistry.

Well, the same is true of humans if you just look at chemistry.

Edwin

 

[warpspeedpetey]

warpspeedpetey,

We all know about the Donner Party, we all know about the plane crashes in the Andes and other remote spots, we all know about cannibalism. We also know that these people were thrust into these situations quite unexpectedly and did not have shops and restaurants and bars to duck into for heat like the frozen man in your downtown Kansas City area.

 

[warpspeedpetey]

Well, the same is true of humans if you just look at chemistry.

Edwin

yup

 

[BlyssfulDreamer]

ive never had an animal give me comfort when i was sad. that would be projecting anthropomorphism on the animal.

Well, then you have truly missed out. Haven’t you heard of dogs who go to nursing homes and visit residents? My elderly aunt is such a person and her biggest joy is when the dogs come to visit. They go from one resident to another and bring comfort and joy. I know I have been the recipient of such comfort from my precious furry friend.