Pets passing on

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chrisg93:
Didn’t mean to be offensive to your wife but if anyone puts time, effort, money and emotion into cats rather than innocent murdered babies, they have committed a grave sin.
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**:bigyikes: These are harsh words… Now I feel sorry for you Chris. It must not be easy to believe and live with such views on LIFE. :nope: **
 
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Marie:
Chris,
The abortion issue is important of course. It is always first and foremost in our prayers. That is not to say we are not to care about all of Gods creatures. A disordered thinking process is no help to the abortion problem at all. Life includes all life. We are allowed to grieve and pray about all areas of life which God loves. I suggest you think about the fact this thread is about animals. It was not started as a debate on abortion. There are pleanty of threads about abortion to insert your concern into. This one was not about abortion and your rude intrusion and vitrolic attack was out of place. (I think calling someones grief a sin is seriourly out of order.)

Your anger and single-minded judgementalism is not laudable. God loves a cheerful heart. A depressive, angry heart does not gain great grace. I suggest you think about that and broaden your horizons and faith a bit more. And while we are on the subject…keep to the topic of the thread. Grief for creatures God created for man to love and care for.
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Marie,
:amen: Well said…I cannot even think of a single word to add ! Annunciata
 
Genell–and Jeffrey?–please accept my sympathy for the loss of your beloved pet.

Chris–may I recommend that you read, or re-read, C.S. Lewis’ “The Four Loves” so that you can understand that the deep AFFECTION love which is felt for pets by their owners is NO SIN.

Also, feeling affection for one’s pet, and grieving for its loss, has absolutely NOTHING to do with feeling the horror and sorrow for an ABORTED CHILD’S DEATH.

Do you honestly think, as it appears from your post, that there is only a certain amount of “love” in any given person, and that if a person is feeling “love” and “sorrorw” for a pet’s death, that person is SHORT-CHANGING or CAN’T feel “love” and “sorrow” for the death of a CHILD?

Fanaticism, even for a GOOD cause, can be ugly and even un-Christian. Harsh words and contemptuous dismissal of a person’s feelings as being “sinful” are unloving and uncharitable and unworthy, IMO, of one who sincerely loves GOD.

Abortion is a compelling, vital issue, but it is not the ONLY issue in the world. We aren’t all called upon to act EXACTLY THE SAME WAY either, in our work toward ending abortion. Some are called to more CORPORAL works of mercy–adopting a child, working at a pro-life group, knitting baby clothes–and some to more SPIRITUAL works of mercy–prayer, fasting, and other penance.

It is not for you to judge another, Chris. I don’t judge you–I ask you to search your heart and ask yourself why you are attacking a fellow Christian in her time of grief?
 
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chrisg93:
Didn’t mean to be offensive to your wife but if anyone puts time, effort, money and emotion into cats rather than innocent murdered babies, they have committed a grave sin.

Why did your wife post about a cat and not about you being a pro-life hero? Why does she “offer up her suffering to thoses who abuse and hurt animals” but not babies. Why do some other posters grieve about pets like they are human souls? Why do some people look to animals as companions and not other people in need?
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Gosh, way to show compassion for someone who is grieving. Remind me not to post here for support when the cat that I rescued from the street 17 years ago (she is currently living with my parents) passes on, or when one of my two cats passes on. I don’t think I could deal with hearing something similar. My kitties are dear companions to me and I will miss them greatly. It’s hard to understand why someone would be upset that I would love a cat who cried piteously at the shelter as soon as he saw me, and did not stop until I took him out of his cage and held him. Sure, I love my husband, our families, our friends, etc. I don’t understand how loving a pet means that someone DOESN’T love humans or desire their companionship.

I’m amazed at how some people don’t realize that it is possible to love ALL of God’s creation. Yes, it is important to pray for an end to abortion, to protest abortion, to vote pro-life, to encourage pregnant women to choose life and assist them, and to otherwise support the pro-life cause. One can do this and still care about the animals that they have chosen to bring into their lives and care for.

Quite frankly, people who abuse animals scare me because that’s usually the first visibly abusive stage in a sociopath’s criminal history. Perhaps if Gennell offers up her suffering, we’ll be spared someone who has progressed from animal torture to child abuse.
 
Gennell and Jeffrey,

I am very sorry to hear about the loss of your cat. May God bless you both and your family.

I’ve always had trouble believing that these dear creatures who love us and care for us in their own way, while only asking for love and a few comforts in return, would be forever lost to us. I’m glad to see that I’m not alone. God created them too, and He knows what he’s doing.
 
You can care for animals…and still hold babies, children, humans above animals. Jesus wants you to care for animals. I don’t know who hardened your heart towards animals, they did you wrong IMO.

My wife has posted about being Pro-Life, quite a few times in fact. Far as offering up her suffering to thoses who abuse and hurt animals hopefully they’ll have a change of heart, she is trying to help them, she’d like everyone to go to Heaven. As do I.

She won’t take the focus off of protecting babies, as well you shouldn’t.
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chrisg93:
Jeffery,
I honor and admire your pro-life stand. Ginnell said she is “having a really hard time with it” and “really bothered” by her cats situation. Didn’t mean to be offensive to your wife but if anyone puts time, effort, money and emotion into cats rather than innocent murdered babies, they have committed a grave sin.

Why did your wife post about a cat and not about you being a pro-life hero? Why does she “offer up her suffering to thoses who abuse and hurt animals” but not babies. Why do some other posters grieve about pets like they are human souls? Why do some people look to animals as companions and not other people in need?

Sorry to sound strident. Since you are a pro-life hero you know the profound contraversy in the Church now about Holy Eucharist and Pro-abortion Catholic politicians. You know the Jesus said that angles who guard children always behold the face of God. That’s how serious God is about this issue. All other moral issues in society are secondary to abortion. I know your wife must be a pro-life hero also since she is helping you and she loves babies. I hope she doesn’t ever take the primary focus off of innocent babies.
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Jeffrey:
You can care for animals…and still hold babies, children, humans above animals. Jesus wants you to care for animals…
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Jeff & Gennell,
I share your feelings and empathize with you in your loss…
Blessings,
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Gennell, I can relate to your feelings of sadness at this time. My beloved beagle Turi passed on a year ago from kidney failure, and I still miss her everyday. I’ve also had many other human losses in my life and I am here to tell you that greiving is never easy but God will give you the grace to get through.

I do believe that heaven will include all the creatures that God put in our earthly lives to love. I would like to recomend a great book to you, it’s called “A Travel Guide To Heaven” by Anthony Destefano. The author is Catholic.

May God give you much peace,
Ginny
 
I’m gonna give it one last try…
  1. “Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, everything in the universe, cry out: ‘To the one who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be blessing and honor, glory and might, forever and ever’” (Revelation 5:13).
This passage says “everything in the universe” cries out to God, including roaches, flys and bacteria. This passage catagorically does not eatablish pets in Heaven. St Thomas Aquinas is on my side of no pets in Heaven.
  1. Jeff and Gennell, I apologize if I misjudged your intent. I wanted to warn against the danger of inapproiate grieving, which seems to be rampant on this thread.
  2. Anyone who teats a cat like a family member is seriously deluded. Only a few have even commented on the horror of abortion.
  3. Jesus said “whatever you do to the least of these you do also to me”. If you grieve, spend time and money, give time and love to cats more than aborted babies then you have sinned by putting Jesus second to cats.
  4. The thought of the time, effort and love and given to cats rather to aborted babies makes me sick.
 
chrisg93 said:
3. Anyone who teats a cat like a family member is seriously deluded. Only a few have even commented on the horror of abortion.
  1. Jesus said “whatever you do to the least of these you do also to me”. If you grieve, spend time and money, give time and love to cats more than aborted babies then you have sinned by putting Jesus second to cats.
  2. The thought of the time, effort and love and given to cats rather to aborted babies makes me sick.
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chrisg93:
I’m gonna give it one last try…
  1. “Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, everything in the universe, cry out: ‘To the one who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be blessing and honor, glory and might, forever and ever’” (Revelation 5:13).
This passage says “everything in the universe” cries out to God, including roaches, flys and bacteria. This passage catagorically does not eatablish pets in Heaven. St Thomas Aquinas is on my side of no pets in Heaven.
  1. Jeff and Gennell, I apologize if I misjudged your intent. I wanted to warn against the danger of inapproiate grieving, which seems to be rampant on this thread.
  2. Anyone who teats a cat like a family member is seriously deluded. Only a few have even commented on the horror of abortion.
  3. Jesus said “whatever you do to the least of these you do also to me”. If you grieve, spend time and money, give time and love to cats more than aborted babies then you have sinned by putting Jesus second to cats.
  4. The thought of the time, effort and love and given to cats rather to aborted babies makes me sick.
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I feel so sorry for you, chrisg93. You have completely misread and misunderstood this entire thread. I feel so sorry for you because it is clear you have never felt the complete love of a pet and that you do not understand it one bit. That is very sad to me. Gennell is not holding her kitty above Our Lord, and she is not doing more for her kitty than for aborted babies. You have no proof that she is. And there is nothing wrong with putting time, effort and love into cats; that is *NOT *sinful. Pets’ lives depend on their owners. It would be sinful to abandon them to cruelty. I pray you open your heart to the Heavenly Father’s Love, which comes to us through *all life. *
 
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chrisg93:
We cannot say that we will have memories of pets in heaven. That is sheer speculation and totally unsupported by theology. I sincerely hope that there are no pets nor memories of pets in Heaven.

I believe it is a sin to grieve over a cat but not grieve over a innocent human baby tore apart limb from limb during abortion. I would ask Ginnell to pray for the 44 million human children slaughered by abortion since 1973. Jesus said not a sparrow falls from the sky that he doesn’t know about, so Jesus does know about your cat. Jesus said “whatever you do to the least of these you do also to me”. If you put cats before innocent babies then you are putting cats before Jesus.
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My goodness, who said anything about putting any pet above the life of a human being? Yes, pet do not have souls as we have, but they are still creatures created by God for our enjoyment here on earth. We had our 14 year old springer spaniel put to sleep this spring, as he was suffereng from a cancerous tumor. We mourned for him, but at no time did we put his life above that of any human being. Pets have a special place in some peoples lives. They are good companions, and a lot of times, help you keep your sanity. I don’t know if there are pets in heaven, but if I get there, that will be the first question I’ll ask. God bless.
 
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chrisg93:
I’m gonna give it one last try…
  1. Anyone who teats a cat like a family member is seriously deluded. Only a few have even commented on the horror of abortion.
  2. Jesus said “whatever you do to the least of these you do also to me”. If you grieve, spend time and money, give time and love to cats more than aborted babies then you have sinned by putting Jesus second to cats.
  3. The thought of the time, effort and love and given to cats rather to aborted babies makes me sick.
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This thread never, ever had anything to do with abortion. This is about a cat. You are crazy if you think people who treat pets like family members are deluded because they are family members. Why don’t you go start a thread of your own instead of hijacking other people’s? You sound like a raving nutcase.
 
Because this thread was started with good intentions and the intentions of others so quickly became uncharitable, the thread is now closed.
 
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