Pharmacists in Manitoba Refuse to Dispense Abortifacient “Morning After” Pill

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jrabs:

Ortho -

Interesting that commercials for BC pills also verbally provide a myriad of potential health risks.

Ok first off you have to Know exactly how the "warnings " are decided on.

lets say they have 1000 people in the test group.
if one person gets a sinus infection at somepoint during the test no matter if they were in a house with 25 kids all having colds it legally has to be in the warnings,some of the people in these test groups are scheduled for surgeries,or have a lot of prior medical conditions, this is done on purpose to decide if it complicates anything at all.
thats why aspirin "warnings " now are so severe as well.
or acetiminiphen, a person with a less than perfect liver will get some bad “side effects” from acetiminiphen,which DOES cause
potential liver probs,so now a considered safe dose is 2000 mg a day (24 hours) anything more is risk of liver damage, however most normal “healthy” people can safely take higher doses.

How many of you par take in the weekly communion?
thats a wine with an alcohol content of 21% look up the side effects of a teaspoon of 21% alcohol once a week.
risk of liver damage, potential addiction,stroke,internal bleeding,
heart attack,blurred vision,headache nausea,unbalanced walking,
kidney failure,diabetic shock, and yes even death,its also recommended to not drive afterwards how many of you wont drive home? and yes even death is in those warnings.

to really understand the warnings you really need to know a lot more information, how many were in the test group, how many people got what side effect, and what were the indications of exposure from an outside source…

These are also the exact reasons why a dr should be consulted with most meds, they know most of these facts,and its also why you should be 100% truthful to your dr on them questionaires
all these take a factor in the meds they prescribe to you…
John

 

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jrabs:

So as far as you know, there are no risks involved in ingesting the BC pill - and you are in favor of putting them OTC because in you are unaware of any potential health risks?

I’m unsure why the packaging of such products would include the printed potential risks if there were none.

Serious side effects include an increased chance, for some women, of developing heart disease, high blood pressure, and blood clots. Minor side effects include nausea, headaches, sore breasts, weight gain, irregular bleeding and depression. Women who smoke, are over age 35, or have a history of blood clots or breast or endometrial cancer are more at risk for dangerous side effects.

4woman.gov/faq/birthcont.htm#five the link is one that I think Ortho will appreciate - completely unbiased and non-denominational. I would have preferred using a Catholic link but this seemed to get the point across.

you are absolutly correct with these potential "health"risks.
and these are also the same health risks for the "plan B pill as both are based on hormones to accomplish what they are intended to accomplish. the increased hormones are what causes the problems…
the common aspirin has many more “side effects” as does a tylenol,or cough syrup, gasoline vapors,motor oil on your skin.
paint fumes, printed paper handling,

They normally dont base a drug going over the counter by potential side effects, it depends usually on if the drug companys want it over the counter or not and "potential " misuse or other uses… after all they have to keep DRs in buisness also, How many times have you gone to the Drs and already knew exactly what was wrong with you and what you needed to take care of it but still had to shell out that office fee to get an antibiotic…
thats the circle…pay a DR, pay a Pharmacist,which pays a store,which pays the drug companys,which pays the GOVT.
now take into effect something the Pharmacists dont want a part of they say ok have to cut out the DR as well,but they wont cut out the drug companys cause then they cut out themselves…
and that wont happen they are too greedy

 

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Ortho:

Wonder how many have died from peanuts? Show some compassion.

Ok reading all these posts I see many patterns with all of us.
we dont need to compare apples to oranges, there are tons of things out in this world that are deadly to the user,
Ortho Peanuts are a very real threat to many people its unfortunate to say the least that some people are so allergic to peanuts that they can die just from being in a room with them.

I think we can all agree this particular medication is basically safe for the person using it, we really cant argue that point as many more woman die each year giving birth than using that pill…

However we need to consider the real issue here, if this pill goes over the counter. it wont be that “emergency use” pill anymore
as it will be so easy to obtain it will be the “chosen” form of BC
why pay a monthly fee for pills that can cause the same problems
when you dont need to unless you get pregnant.
most of the pro chice people i talk to do not want to see “abortion”
or any form of it used as “normal” BC this is what putting this pill over the counter will successfully do, esspecially for young girls who are to embarrassed for other “means”

We as Catholics do not believe in ABC, other denominations do
we aint going to listen to them anymore than they will listen to us

BUT do any of us really want to see “abortion” used as an everyday form of BC.

thats the real issue here. not how bad the side effects are.
everything we do has a “side effect” including breathing, drinking tap water,etc
John