Photographs from 2005 Los Angeles Religious Education Conference

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JustSomeGuy:
what are you on?

they are real photos.
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First of all, Im on a chair.

I know they are real, I just dont believe my eyes.
 
Catholic Dude said:
(First of all is this real? Did someone use photoshop or is this really a Catholic mass?)

So here is what I saw that nobody talked about.

-Post #1, 1st pic, if you look carefully INTO the side of the the “altar” right above the tree you will see a little picuture of Mary with her head down looking sad.

-Post #1, 1st pic, the “altar girl” behind the woman doing animal charades (im guessing she is a monkey?) is facing the wrong way.

-Post #1, 2nd pic, if you look into the first wine pitcher you can see a face in the right-side part of the wine.

-Post#1, 2nd pic, one of the pitchers doesnt match the other two.

-Post #1, 3rd pic, the main candle is burned out.

-Post #1, 3rd pic, Even the kids turn their backs to Britney.

-Post #1, 2nd & 3rd pic, the priest is wearing a womans watch and britney is wearing a mans watch.

Post #13, 1st pic, a candle in the left side in the back is burned out.

Post #13, 1st pic, one guy on the steps on the left with his back turned cant take it and throws up in a bag.

-Post #13, the 2nd pic, the first woman in blue only has one foot.

-Post #13, 2nd pic, the guy in the middle cant keep it to himself.

So what do you guys think? Have I lost it from looking at such disrespect of the mass? If this is real, then what was going on here? This cant be allowed, can it?
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I’m laughing so hard :rotfl:
 
Is there a mandatory retirement age for Cardinals? How old is the Cardinal? I was just thinking that maybe it will take retirement of the Cardinal to put things back on the right track.

Does anybody know who appointed him Cardinal?

In Christ,
Scarlet
 
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Scarlet:
Is there a mandatory retirement age for Cardinals? How old is the Cardinal? I was just thinking that maybe it will take retirement of the Cardinal to put things back on the right track.

Does anybody know who appointed him Cardinal?

In Christ,
Scarlet
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JPII appointed him.
 
Is there a mandatory retirement age for Cardinals? How old is the Cardinal? I was just thinking that maybe it will take retirement of the Cardinal to put things back on the right track.
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Does anybody know who appointed him Cardinal?
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the retirement age is 80. he just turned 69. things were very different when JPII appointed him in '85 and elevated him in '91. there are politics involved too. it doesn’t look very good if the archbishop of the largest u.s. diocese is passed over, after his predecessor (a cardinal) dies. he is only one of 1200 others. most of those others aren’t blind. (i hope)
 
For anyone doubting the date/authenticity of the pics go here:
recongress.org/ and you can look at all the pics from this year and previous years. The moderators have asked not to post full size pictures on the forums.
 
The theme for the above conference is grace

Our theme, “Awake to Grace,” shakes us out of our inattentiveness, our complacency. Summoned to wake up, we discover grace in places, situations, where we would not expect it at all: around us, among the littlest, the poorest, in the still small voices, in the loud clamors for change, renewal and transformation – and no less in the deepest core of ourselves where the birth of Christ unceasingly repeats itself.

– Sr. Edith Prendergast, RSC​
Director, Office of Religious Education
 
Nota Bene:
All you are doing is compounding your boorishness…
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sweetheart, you started the name calling. My original post wasn’t even addressed to you. If I want your opinion, I’ll ask for it.

Otherwise, go pound sand. 😃
 
HumbleSinner said:
The singer is not in a very modest pose especially with that slit half way up her skirt. It appears From this photo our Southern CA teenage girls had front row seats.
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I was sick when I saw this photo with the teens viewing this sacrilege and immodest display. The singer looks like she just rolled in from the cage in a strip club. I attended one of these poor excuses for Holy Mass at the Religious Conference several years ago and was so appalled then that I decided never to submit myself to this sort of torture and lack of reverence again. I see that the show has degenerated even further. I am so sad.

God saves and He will eventually save us from this.
 
That is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever seen. That looks like a broadway play (only broadway is better, and the actors don’t always look like they’re on drugs). A parish in my town is organizing a prayer service for Pentecost that will include dance. I definitely will not be attending that.

Liturgical dance, Kool-Aid style altar vessels, Teenaged Ballerinas dancing VERY close to the Cardinal, a scantily clad singer who looks like she’s on drugs, and a woman who looks drunk dancing down the steps of the sanctuary.

“Out of the depths, I cry to Thee, O Lord…” (Psalm 130)
 
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JustSomeGuy:
the retirement age is 80. he just turned 69. things were very different when JPII appointed him in '85 and elevated him in '91. there are politics involved too. it doesn’t look very good if the archbishop of the largest u.s. diocese is passed over, after his predecessor (a cardinal) dies. he is only one of 1200 others. most of those others aren’t blind. (i hope)
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I thought the retirement age for a diocesan ordinary was 75? (I could be wrong).
 
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JustSomeGuy:
… the worst thing is that these photos don’t show the half of it. mahoney’s idea of the holy liturgy is performance, audience, hyperventalating euphoria, entertainment. people in the pews and money in the basket.
…for those of you who are indignant about the little things that happen in your parishes, this stuff will make its way to you soon. this is a catechists’ convention. the people go with the intention of ‘learning’ and then ‘teaching’ in their parishes. it is a slow moving, deadly disease. these lemmings suck it in. they applaud after every ‘hymn’ (i call it “number”)
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I live in the archdiocese as well. The problem runs deeper that you might think. From what I’m told by someone who has attended some of the archdiocesan liturgy meeting, many of the “liturgists” consider the Cardinal Mahony to be… "conservative.***" :eek: :confused:
 
article from Los Angeles Lay Catholic Mission
losangelesmission.com/ed/news/2005news/0503news.htm
**CHOCK FULL OF VARIETY. **The 2005 Religious Education Congress, put on by the archdiocese of Los Angeles, promised to be a multi-cultural smorgasbord, said the February 5 Tidings. “I think we have tried to bring together talent from across cultures and generations that will awake us to grace,” Sister Edith Prendergast, archdiocesan directress of religious education, said. As part of the fare, Bishop Gabino Zavala was to preside at the “Mass of the Americas/Misa de las Americas,” to honor “the richness and giftedness of the many cultures of the Americas.” Other Masses promised were jazz, “contemplative,” and “general” liturgies, and one “planned by and for youth.” In addition, there were to be “Masses centering on various traditions including Celtic, Hispanic, Samoan and Black culture.”
Special events slated for this year’s Religious Education Congress included “multi-sensory ways for participants to become attuned to the presence of the Spirit.” These “feasts for the soul, heart, eyes and ears” were to provide “opportunities for Eucharistic Adoration, Labyrinth-walking, Marion art works viewing and contemplative music listening.”
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Special events slated for this year’s Religious Education Congress included “multi-sensory ways for participants to become attuned to the presence of the Spirit.” These “feasts for the soul, heart, eyes and ears” were to provide “opportunities for Eucharistic Adoration, Labyrinth-walking, Marion art works viewing and contemplative music listening.”
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Adoration of our divine Savior truly present in the Blessed Sacrament was just one spiritual option among many at his years RE congress. I must admit the Archdiocese of L.A. has a very peculiar way of showcasing its Catholicism.:ehh:

Los Angeles is not titled the City of Lost Angels for nothing, I suggest God fearing Magesterium faithful Catholics in those parts make for the hills…
 
I think I saw a Bishop in the pictures with the girls who were dancing at that Mass. Pictures don’t lie. It happened in Los Angeles right in the presence of a Bishop. I thought that Pagan stuff occured for away from a Bishop, initiated by some Leftest Radical Priest. But it seems in Los Angeles they dont try to hide it.

I wonder if the Mass being said was the Latin Mass, the Mass of the Catechumens. I suspect they were using some sort of New Mass, maybe tinkered with by that Bishop. I just can’t imagine they would do that foolishness when the Original Latin Mass was being said.

I saw all those youngsters watching. How do you think they will be influenced. Twenty years from now they might bring in some animals. Perhaps a trained dog act.
 
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tpmjr42:
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JustSomeGuy:
the retirement age is 80. he just turned 69. things were very different when JPII appointed him in '85 and elevated him in '91. there are politics involved too. it doesn’t look very good if the archbishop of the largest u.s. diocese is passed over, after his predecessor (a cardinal) dies. he is only one of 1200 others. most of those others aren’t blind. (i hope)
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I thought the retirement age for a diocesan ordinary was 75? (I could be wrong).
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Two different answers for two different questions (actually, the original question was poorly worded).
  • A diocesan ordinary is requested, by Canon Law, submit his resignation upon reaching the age of 75. The holy father, however is under no obligation to immediately accept anyone’s submission.
  • Similarly, a Cardinal head of a curial department is requested to submit his resignation at the age of 75, similarly non-bindingly upon the holy father.
  • A Cardinal ceases to be a Cardinal-elector upon reaching the age of 80 (unless he happens to be in conclave on his birthday, in which case he ceases to be an elector at the conclusion of the conclave).
  • But AFAIK, a Cardinal will remain a Prince of the Church until his death.
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tpmjr42:
I thought the retirement age for a diocesan ordinary was 75? (I could be wrong).
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for a cardinal it is 80, he is non-voting after that. i can’t remember the case for cardinal-archbishop, but i am pretty sure mandatory resignation is extended to 80 also as regards the diocese. i can’t remember how it worked with Cardinal Manning, but i know the pope did not immediately accept his resignation. i don’t know how old he was.
 
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