"Phyletism" in American Byzantine rite Catholic Churches?

[thomon16]

Phyletism or the principle of nationalities applied in the ecclesiastical domain was condemned as a modern ecclesial heresy at a pan-Orthodox Synod in Constantinople in 1872. Nevertheless, although there is an Orthodox Church in America (OCA), there are still separate ethnic Orthodox jurisdictions in and outside of the OCA.

In American Eastern Catholicism, there are also separate ethnic Byzantine rite churches. Why? Is there any possibility of an “American” Byzantine Catholic Church with an English language Divine Liturgy?

 

[Nine_Two]

It should be noted that Orthodox fully acknowledge this as a negative and against Canon, however there are efforts underway to correct things (although there have been past efforts, the present ones look like they will be successful).

 

[Alexander_Roman]

Phyletism does not equal ethnic jurisdictions. Phyletism is about when a church refuses to go beyond her national, cultural identity and limits itself thereto.

There really is no such thing, however, as a church that does not have a cultural identity and even a proud one. Even with the “international” Roman Catholic Church, there are national churches as in Poland.

The problem begins when a church doesn’t see itself related to the rest of Christianity that is outside the national/cultural identity and entity that forms it e.g. refuses to acknowledge Saints that are of a different cultural background such as, who are not Greek, Russian and the like.

The various ethnic-based jurisdictions of the Eastern Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Churches in North America are related to their Mother Churches in their cultural homelands.

The problem is that their national cultures also impact the development of their Rite and this impacts the variations within the Byzantine Rite.

I don’t know the answer to that one.

Alex

 

[KathleenElsie]

Romanian Byzantine Catholic’s in the USA use (at least in our parish) English with only two songs in Romanian (we only have five people that know the words). If I have the words in front of me I can chant/sing them.

Since 1994, the Romanian Greek-Catholic Church has been led by the Most Reverend Lucian Mureşan, Archbishop of Făgăraş and Alba Iulia, who on December 16, 2005 became its first Major Archbishop when it was raised to the rank of a Major Archiepiscopal Church by Benedict XVI.
The Church has four other dioceses in Romania: (Oradea Mare, Eparchy of Cluj-Gherla, Eparchy of Lugoj and Eparchy of Maramureş), [1] and one, directly subject to the Holy See, in the United States of America (Eparchy of Saint George in Canton, Ohio).[2]
According to the information, valid for the end of 2005, given in the 2007 Annuario Pontificio, it then had 763,000 followers, 8 bishops, 1239 parishes, some 747 diocesan priests and 274 seminarians of its own rite.[3]