Physical appearance of angels

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Have any of the saints ever seen an angel other than those who are found in scripture? What do you think they look like? Do they appear as human children with wings or adults? Are the typical depictions of them in artwork accurate?
 
As I recall what my priest told me, angels are, like all of us when we depart this life, are without shape or form to human perception. (After all, they are metaphysical beings, and we cannot perceive metaphysical people, places, or things, in this life). This is not saying that they are as such - only here on earth, if an angel in its natural form came to us, we would not be able to perceive it as a physical being. (I know seraphim are mentioned somewhere and described in the bible, but I’m too lazy to find the passage).

However, angels do take on physical forms when interceding with human necessity, and these can be any life-bearing form on earth. For all we know, the random homeless fellow with a begging cup isn’t really a person at all, but an angel, observing our world from up close.

I’m pretty sure the depictions in artwork are accurate, however. The popular notion is that they are majestic beings with wings, and while I’ve never seen one as such, I would say that these angels would only be present in private revelations and not in public ones until the day of judgement. I can’t even fathom the glory or the beauty that those fortunate few in history, such as saints, must have set eyes upon when they saw angels in majestic form.
 
For all we know, the random homeless fellow with a begging cup isn’t really a person at all, but an angel, observing our world from up close.
Does the church teach that after the resurrection, it is possible for some people who appear to be human to actually be angels? Could some of them be “spying” on us or be in our presence without our knowledge? I know it was possible in the time of Lot in the old testament, but what about now? Lastly what reasons would God have to do this?
 
Does the church teach that after the resurrection, it is possible for some people who appear to be human to actually be angels? Could some of them be “spying” on us or be in our presence without our knowledge? I know it was possible in the time of Lot in the old testament, but what about now? Lastly what reasons would God have to do this?
I don’t believe there is any such church teaching about this after our bodily resurrection. However, the Church does teach that each of us is assigned a guardian angel. Most of us are unaware of it’s presence. However, it’s purpose is not to spy on us, but to guide and protect us.
 
As I recall what my priest told me, angels are, like all of us when we depart this life, are without shape or form to human perception. (After all, they are metaphysical beings, and we cannot perceive metaphysical people, places, or things, in this life). This is not saying that they are as such - only here on earth, if an angel in its natural form came to us, we would not be able to perceive it as a physical being. ***(I know seraphim are mentioned ***somewhere and described in the bible, but I’m too lazy to find the passage).
Isaiah 6:1-4 describes a vision experienced by Isaiah.

Like our own immortal spiritual soul, though, an angel is immaterial, and so doesn`t occupy space, and consists of “only” intellect and will. When “appearing” to a person, the angel uses “its” extremely powerful (compared with ours) intellect and will to manipulate matter to take on a form.
The fallen angels have the same capacity, and can set up fake apparitions…

No spirit occupies space. We can say that a spirit is where “its” intellect and will are focussed, but only in a metaphorical sense.
 
Since angels are by nature bodiless, we can’t know for sure how they actually look like (if spirits do have a concept of ‘appearance’): I believe that they could appear in whatever form that would be best for their duties, if they so wish.

As for artworks: I personally don’t believe that angels look either like the winged effeminate young men/girls or cute babies of Renaissance artworks. 😃
When Scripture does describe some angels in detail (i.e. when they are not disguising themselves as regular men) they apparently convey a sort of majesty and ‘otherness’, to the point that they are terrifying and shocking - perhaps a far cry from our conventional Western ‘angels’. The Bible is filled with accounts of men in gleaming white robes, winged human-animals, wheels-inside-wheels that are full of eyes, many-eyed beings with four heads and straight feet with soles like unto a calf, ‘burning ones’ with six wings, and whatnot. So majestic, strange (‘extra-ordinary’ in the original sense), and terrible are their countenance that many a saint or prophet fell to the ground at the sight of them.

IMHO earlier Christian artworks do manage to convey this aspect of the angels (and which is why I like these depictions - not to mention that they stick to Biblical descriptions more accurately ;)), but the end of the Middle Ages signalled a change: their beauty came to be increasingly emphasized over their terribility, and the end result is the dainty youths and the babies of latter-day Western art.
 
I’m sorry…by “resurrection” I meant after Jesus rose from the dead, not the final one. I find the story of Lot interesting. Apparently God had 2 angels in disguise as regular human beings, but they had the power to “blind” the wicked people in Sodom for their sexual desire. I guess my question is, is it possible that the homeless guy I gave spare change to could be an angel or that there are still some now who are in human form?
 
I’m sorry…by “resurrection” I meant after Jesus rose from the dead, not the final one. I find the story of Lot interesting. Apparently God had 2 angels in disguise as regular human beings, but they had the power to “blind” the wicked people in Sodom for their sexual desire. I guess my question is, is it possible that the homeless guy I gave spare change to could be an angel or that there are still some now who are in human form?
Since a human form is an assumed form for an angel, and they exist to serve God, I would think they appear in this form for a specific purpose, and once the purpose was fulfilled, they would return to their natural state. They don’t act on their own, they act according to God’s will. If God wanted them to assume a human form for a while to fulfill His purpose, they would do so. However, I doubt there are angels who are permanently walking around in human form. Scripture doesn’t seem to support that. They appeared for specific purposes, such as the example you gave above, or at the Resurrection scene and at the Annunciation and Ascension, for example.

My mother believes she had an encounter with an angel in the guise of a beggar at our door when I was very small. I recall the event because it was so unusual. She believes it was a test of her generosity. My father had abandoned us and she had little food and money, but when the man came to the door (not all that unusual in the 1950’s) she gave him what money she had for food, and thought “Well, at least we have a roof over our heads tonight, he doesn’t have anything.” The man walked down the sidewalk and disappeared before her eyes! The very next day she got a check in the mail for back child support, soon she had a job, and never was in that extreme position again. Always just enough to make ends meet, not much extra, but our needs were met. She was and is a very grateful person, always thanking God for everything. She loves to tell this story.
 
Since a human form is an assumed form for an angel, and they exist to serve God, I would think they appear in this form for a specific purpose, and once the purpose was fulfilled, they would return to their natural state. They don’t act on their own, they act according to God’s will. If God wanted them to assume a human form for a while to fulfill His purpose, they would do so. However, I doubt there are angels who are permanently walking around in human form. Scripture doesn’t seem to support that. They appeared for specific purposes, such as the example you gave above, or at the Resurrection scene and at the Annunciation and Ascension, for example.

My mother believes she had an encounter with an angel in the guise of a beggar at our door when I was very small. I recall the event because it was so unusual. She believes it was a test of her generosity. My father had abandoned us and she had little food and money, but when the man came to the door (not all that unusual in the 1950’s) she gave him what money she had for food, and thought “Well, at least we have a roof over our heads tonight, he doesn’t have anything.” The man walked down the sidewalk and disappeared before her eyes! The very next day she got a check in the mail for back child support, soon she had a job, and never was in that extreme position again. Always just enough to make ends meet, not much extra, but our needs were met. She was and is a very grateful person, always thanking God for everything. She loves to tell this story.
Wow. Amazing story! 🙂
 
My mother believes she had an encounter with an angel in the guise of a beggar…The very next day she got a check in the mail for back child support, soon she had a job, and never was in that extreme position again…
My mum had a similar encounter like this. About 10 years ago, my parents kept bidding for this lovely house. When she first looked around it, she threw a medal in the garden (not sure which saint it is for, but people normally throw them into the garden of a house they want) and the owners promised that they would accept our offer and the house would be ours. However, they eventually allowed another family to keep bidding and my parents couldn’t go much higher.

One day, my mum was driving and there was this man (he was either drunk, really poor or a bit odd. I can’t remember which) and she stopped to give him a lift home. The next day, the owners of the house told my mum they would accept her offer.

My mum has said a few times that she feels like that man was an angel and that because she helped him, she was rewarded.

I read a book once called ‘The Big G’. It was a made up interview, modernising God and explaining Him really well for children. At one point, God told the interviewer that he had ignored God when he asked for help. The man asked, when God had asked him for help and God said something like ‘I was the old man who was begging and you ignored me’. He then explained that you never know when someone you refuse to help on earth is actually a divine being

I don’t know where the author got this idea from, but it makes sense to me.
 
…As for artworks: I personally don’t believe that angels look either like the winged effeminate young men…
I’d heard an opinion on the above in a documentary ; that the feminine facial features were intended by the artist to convey an almost mother-like benevolence for us while the more masculine features had something to do with trying to convey the concept of the awesome power of each of God’s angels.

The first time (I was somewhat younger then) that someone told me an angel didn’t have any hands, I remember feeling somewhat dejected because I was forced to perform a little rethink on how my own guardian angel might embrace me. Adding to the mental gymnastics was the task of getting a more practical grip on Psalm 91:11-12 :

“ For he hath given his angels charge over thee; to keep thee in all thy ways. In their hands they shall bear thee up: lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.” [DRV] {NAB says “with their hands”]

Nonetheless, we are told that after He (Jesus) had fasted for forty days in the desert and had been tempted by the devil, in Matthew 4:11[NAB] :

“Then the devil left him and, behold, angels came and ministered to him.”

We aren’t told exactly *how *this takes place physically, but we are told that this definitely does take place.

What seemed to eventually bring me around was a comment by St. Thomas Aquinas provided in a little book called “My Way of Life” (a simplified readable version of his Summa)…I can’t find the passage right now, but he pointed out that [paraphrase] Although we would contemplate an angel from an artist’s depiction it would never occur to us to wonder exactly how they were able to get those huge wings to pass through the tiny little hole in the top of his tunic.

So with a smile, I eventually concluded that even if angels don’t have a physical/human body, God does ! … Makes the image of the Father running to meet the returning prodigal son [Luke;Chapter 15], flinging his arms around him and kissing him on the neck , easier to visualize.

🙂
 
It has been quite a while since I read “My Way of Life” cited in my previous post. I have the book in front of me now and there is a considerable amount of good stuff in section on angels. However, my paraphrase was lacking in accuracy. Here is what the book actually has printed in it:

[pg 67] “Not even a child is puzzled about how an angel gets its clothes on over such huge wings ; for it is clear the wings we give to angels are a symbol and nothing more…” *

The book is entitled “My Way of Life” ; Pocket Edition of St. Thomas , The Summa Simplified for Everyone; by Walter Farrel, O.P., S.T.M. , and Martin J. Healy, S.T.,© 1952 , Confraternity of the Precious Blood , .

Here are a couple of selected excerpts from the Chapter V section on The Angels:

[pg 65] “As in numbers, so in variety, the angelic world is a splendor that dims the variety of the physical world into a plainness approaching homely monotony. There are no angelic families or races ; each individual angel stands apart from all the others more distinctly different than an elephant from a fly. The pleasant individual differences we notice from man to man and woman to woman are as far from the differences between the angels as a ripple on a pond is from the towering power and smashing violence of a stormy sea. At each encounter in the heavenly courts, the angels see differences greater than those which distinguish a rose from a woman. Multiply this by the countless number of the angels; the heavenly choirs are a luminous image of divinity’s perfections stupendous in its beauty, staggering in its wide variety. Yet all this is no more than a foggy outline of the beauty of God…”

[pg 66] " Angels were not made to give life to bodies as were our human souls. The bodies in which they have appeared from time to time among us were the appearances of bodies taken on for our comfort ; not real, but apparent that we might the more easily accept the angel, his message, his companionship. None of the things that are proper to living bodies could be accomplished by these apparent bodies of the angels : they could not digest a meal, beget children, become tired, or wake refreshed from sleep … Its completely spiritual nature in its independence and power has no need of a body. It can get far more done than any strong man, indeed than any material force. It is free from the barriers that the physical inevitably imposes on our knowledge and our love. : free from the sluggishness, fatigue and distraction that makes our lifetime harvest of truth so skimpy…"

*Continuation of first quote cited in this post *[from pg 67] - " Not even a child is puzzled about how an angel gets its clothes on over such huge wings ; for it is clear the wings we give to angels are a symbol and nothing more. The swift flight of a bird contrasted with the trudging step of a man is a fitting symbol of smooth, untrammeled, rapid movement, and so a ceturies-old expression of the celerity of angelic passage. In our own times, we might appeal to the soundless swoop of a diving jet plane to help our stumbling minds to follow the flight of an angel ; we would come closer to reality by following with a flick of the eye the almost instantaneous thrust of lightning. We have the most accurate measurement of that angelic progress in the time it takes our own minds to jump from city to city, across oceans, over five, ten , or fifty years ; for it is thus that an angel moves…"

🙂
 
My mum had a similar encounter like this. About 10 years ago, my parents kept bidding for this lovely house. When she first looked around it, she threw a medal in the garden (not sure which saint it is for, but people normally throw them into the garden of a house they want) and the owners promised that they would accept our offer and the house would be ours. However, they eventually allowed another family to keep bidding and my parents couldn’t go much higher.

One day, my mum was driving and there was this man (he was either drunk, really poor or a bit odd. I can’t remember which) and she stopped to give him a lift home. The next day, the owners of the house told my mum they would accept her offer.

My mum has said a few times that she feels like that man was an angel and that because she helped him, she was rewarded.

I read a book once called ‘The Big G’. It was a made up interview, modernising God and explaining Him really well for children. At one point, God told the interviewer that he had ignored God when he asked for help. The man asked, when God had asked him for help and God said something like ‘I was the old man who was begging and you ignored me’. He then explained that you never know when someone you refuse to help on earth is actually a divine being

I don’t know where the author got this idea from, but it makes sense to me.
A Priest told me once whenever you see a beggar asking for money give to him anyway because you never know if that person is really in need. Because one day that person who may or may not be tricking you will take the money and really go buy a sandwich or even take the money and get a hotel room for the night. Through kindness he or she will one day change. Many people say the beggar is going to take that money and buy alcohol or drugs, I would not give them NOTHING!. I say if that person was not in need why would he humiliate himself on a daily basis asking for help.
 
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