Physical, Moral and Spiritual states of man; how to uplift them?

[paarsurrey]

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Who are the ‘skinheads’?

Originally Posted by bpcatholic:
You say you are peaceful and love Jesus Mary et cetera…why do you try to make Christianity look bad?

Hi

I think you are wrong here. I don’t make Christianity look bad.

How could I make them look bad when I love Jesus and Mary? It is true though that the present Christendom is very much mythical in my opinion; and has little (only in name sometimes) image of Jesus and Maryin them.

Nevertheless, I like the Christians rather love them, be they Catholics Protestants JWs etc, as I do love Buddhists and Hindus and Zoroastrians and Jews.

I think there is a lot of real human uplift work to be done in the world with joint and combined efforts of Catholics and peaceful Ahmadi Muslims.

What we can expect from the Atheists and Agnostics? At the most they, the Atheists Agnostics can only play a little part in Scientific and Physical realms of the humans. They don’t claim to believe in Moral and Spiritual realms/faculties of the human beings; that is why their contribution cannot be more than they claim.

Atheism and Agnosticism is the number one problem being faced by Catholics Protestants JWs + 32000 denominations and Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists etc- all Revealed Religions, in Europe, America, and Asia and elsewhere in the world.

It is the combined duty of all the Revealed Religions of the world to work for Physical, Moral and Spiritual uplift of the human beings.

I love Jesus and Mary as I do love Buddha and Krishna.

Thanks

 

[paarsurrey]

Hi

I thougt that the Catholic; our elder borthers in humanity would tell us something about physical, moral and spriritual states of man and how to uplift them.

Since they have not preferred it yet ; so I give something from 2nd Coming 1835-1908 to start with :

Distinction Between the Natural and Moral
States and a refutation of the Doctrine of
Preservation of Life

I shall now proceed to describe the three states of man. But efore I do so, it is necessary for me to voice a reminder that, as indicated in the Holy Word of God Almighty, the natural state of man, the fountainhead of which is the self that incites to evil, is not something divorced from his moral state.

The Holy Word of God has classified man’s **natural faculties **and desires and urges, as natural conditions. These, when they are consciously regulated and controlled and are brought into action on their proper occasions and places, become moral qualities. In the same way, moral conditions are not entirely distinct from spiritual conditions.

When moral conditions develop absolute devotion to God and complete purification of self and, cutting asunder from the world, turn wholly to God and to perfect love and complete devotion and full serenity and satisfaction and complete accord with the Divine will, they become spiritual conditions.

So long as his natural conditions are not converted into moral
conditions, man deserves no praise, inasmuch as they are to be found in other animates and even in solids also. In the same way the mere acquisition of moral qualities does not bestow spiritual life upon a person.

A person who denies the existence of God can yet exhibit good
moral qualities, such as to be humble of heart, to seek peace, to discard evil and not to resist the evil-monger. These are all natural conditions which may be possessed even by an unworthy one who is utterly unacquainted with the fountain-head of salvation and enjoys no part of it.

Many animals have a gentle disposition, and can be trained to become wholly peaceful and not to react savagely to chastisement, and yet we cannot call them human, let alone humans of high status.

In the same way, a person who is entirely misguided and even suffers from some vices, can exhibit these qualities. It is possible that a person may develop mercy to a degree in which he would not permit himself to kill the germs that might be generated in his wounds, or might be so mindful of preserving life that he may not wish to harm the lice in his hair or the insects that are generated in his stomach and his arteries and his brain.

I can believe that a person’s mercy might impel him to discard the use of honey as it is procured by the destruction of many lives and by driving the poor bees out of their hives.

I can believe that a person may avoid the use of musk as it is the blood of a poor animal and is procured by slaughtering it and separating it from its young. I do not deny that a person might refrain from wearing pearls or silk as both these are procured through the death of worms.

I can even understand that a person in pain might refuse to be bled by leeches and might prefer to suffer pain himself rather than desire the death of poor leeches.

I can even believe that a person might carry his mercy and regard for life to a degree that he might refuse to drink water in order to spare the germs in the water. I can accept all this, but I cannot
accept that these natural conditions can be regarded as moral qualities or that they can serve to wash out the inner impurities which obstruct a person’s approach to God.

I cannot believe that to become harmless to a degree in which some animals and birds excel man can become the means of the acquisition of a high degree of humanity.

Indeed, I consider this attitude as amounting to opposition to the law of nature and inconsistent with the high moral quality of seeking the pleasure of God. It rejects the bounties that nature has bestowed upon us.

Spirituality can be achieved only through the use of every moral
quality in its proper place and on its proper occasion, and through
treading faithfully upon the ways of God and through being wholly
devoted to Him. He who becomes truly God’s cannot exist without
Him.A true seeker after God is like a fish sacrificed by the hand of God and its water is the love of God.

Three Methods of Reform:

The Advent of the Holy Prophet at the Time of the Greatest Need
As I have stated, there are three springs from which human states flow, namely, the self that incites to evil, the self that reproves and the soul at rest.

There are also three methods of reform. **The first **is that senseless savages should be taught the elementary social values
pertaining to eating, drinking, marriage etc. They should not go about naked nor eat carrion, like dogs, nor practise any other type of wildness.

This is an elementary stage of the reform of natural conditions of the type that would have to be adopted, for instance, if it is desired to teach a savage from Port Blair, the elementary ways of
human behaviour.

**The second method of reform **is that when a person has adopted
elementary human ways, he may be taught the higher moral qualities and should be instructed to employ his faculties in their proper places and on their proper occasions.

**The third method of reform **is that those who have acquired high
moral qualities should be given a taste of the draught of the love of and union with God.

alislam.org/library/books/Philosophy-of-Teachings-of-Islam.pdf

This is sufficient for an introduction, I think.

I love Jesus and Mary as I do love Buddha and Krishna

Thanks